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Isildur1

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Thanks for this, awesome examine, this is the answrr I was looking for. Thanks
Like I said it’s tough for everybody in the game - the mental battle really is with you and yourself

no matter what smv you get or what you accomplish there will always be blow outs- I know guys who’ve banged 10s regularly then get blown out by a 5 - your past successes or failures don’t define you

my biggest daygame regret was not working hard enough to control the urge to overthink and to be more proactive but remember daygame has a large drop out rate for a reason- whether you are a male 1 or a male 10 the rejection will always be there. I've seen male models, multi millionaires and plenty of high value men give up on the game for various reasons but the most common one was the mental drain of having to deal with rejections and flakes - a lot of men just couldn't deal with the mental burden of getting rejected so much.

But for me I always thought to myself "what happens if i don't do this?" I risk being alone or ending up in a subpar relationship - by comparison my two brothers one who ended up in a brutal divorce and the other who ended up dating a single mum off tinder both ended up in a subpar relationship situation because they didn't work hard enough to increase their options - they had all the status , looks etc. but just too much ego when it came to approaching women and dealing with rejection. I always thought "i don't want a love life like them" and thats what spurred me on to meet my girlfriend of today through daygame who incidentally never used online dating whom i approached while she was working. (prior to daygame i never even had a girlfriend)

You gotta always think "What are the consequences of me not doing this" Far too many threads on this forum are to do with men's lack of options and i feel its a result of them not approaching enough women or being too egotistical about the whole thing. Remember daygame has a huge drop out rate and takes no prisoners so if you're feeling down there are 10000s of men who've given it up for the same reason- you must fight through. How you mentally deal with rejection, bad dates , flakes ultimately will determine your outcome my wings who dealt with them the best succeeded - the ones that didnt just gave up its that simple. A lot of men have a lazy attitude to socialisation - they think they can fix decade long dating problems with 5 or 6 sets and end up overthinking one off interactions . As ex TNL coach Liam Mcrae said - volume was the key too his success (he's now married to a Scandinavian model but in his books he'd talk about 30-35 bad date experiences alone) the motive? to proof that everyone goes through **** in the field.



To quote Liam Mcrae's book the limitless seducer :






"This explains why we often get phenomenal results with guys during our Residential and Eurotour live training programs. Sometimes they’re going on dates and getting laid in the first two days, before they’ve even really had a chance to soak up much of the theory or principles we teach.

I used to wonder why this was, and now I see the pattern. They are men who’ve gone from doing 10-20 approaches or less per year, to suddenly doing 10-20

approaches in one hour. Over two days, they’ve exposed themselves to more potential opportunities than they have in the previous 2 months, 2 years, and sometimes 2 decades.

So by the sheer number of options they’re giving themselves, their chance of success is exponentially increasing.

I’ve had times in my life where I’ve done forty approaches in a week and got nothing, and started to question everything. Am I bad at seduction? Is it my clothes? This city? Am I sub-communicating something awkward or weird? It’s easy to get stuck in a metal loop, overanalyzing everything.

Then I do another ten approaches, and out of that springs three dates, two of which turn into sex, and one of which becomes an ongoing love affair that I learn a lot from.

IMAGINE IF I DIDN’T DO THOSE NEXT 10 APPROACHES?! And instead spent that time pondering whether I was a fraud or if my clothes were bad or I was having an off month or girls in this city don’t like a guy like me...

As James Marshal says “You’re only one approach away from success... that next approach could be the love of your life.”

Just like in sales, having a high volume of options shows you the bigger trends and avoids you getting hung up on that one girl. The main trend you see is: many girls flake, for reasons outside your control. It happens to all of us, even the best seducers I know. "
 
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Like I said it’s tough for everybody in the game - the mental battle really is with you and yourself

no matter what smv you get or what you accomplish there will always be blow outs- I know guys who’ve banged 10s regularly then get blown out by a 5 - your past successes or failures don’t define you

my biggest daygame regret was not working hard enough to control the urge to overthink and to be more proactive but remember daygame has a large drop out rate for a reason- whether you are a male 1 or a male 10 the rejection will always be there. I've seen male models, multi millionaires and plenty of high value men give up on the game for various reasons but the most common one was the mental drain of having to deal with rejections and flakes - a lot of men just couldn't deal with the mental burden of getting rejected so much.

But for me I always thought to myself "what happens if i don't do this?" I risk being alone or ending up in a subpar relationship - by comparison my two brothers one who ended up in a brutal divorce and the other who ended up dating a single mum off tinder both ended up in a subpar relationship situation because they didn't work hard enough to increase their options - they had all the status , looks etc. but just too much ego when it came to approaching women and dealing with rejection. I always thought "i don't want a love life like them" and thats what spurred me on to meet my girlfriend of today through daygame who incidentally never used online dating whom i approached while she was working. (prior to daygame i never even had a girlfriend)

You gotta always think "What are the consequences of me not doing this" Far too many threads on this forum are to do with men's lack of options and i feel its a result of them not approaching enough women or being too egotistical about the whole thing. Remember daygame has a huge drop out rate and takes no prisoners so if you're feeling down there are 10000s of men who've given it up for the same reason- you must fight through. How you mentally deal with rejection, bad dates , flakes ultimately will determine your outcome my wings who dealt with them the best succeeded - the ones that didnt just gave up its that simple. A lot of men have a lazy attitude to socialisation - they think they can fix decade long dating problems with 5 or 6 sets and end up overthinking one off interactions . As ex TNL coach Liam Mcrae said - volume was the key too his success (he's now married to a Scandinavian model but in his books he'd talk about 30-35 bad date experiences alone) the motive? to proof that everyone goes through **** in the field.



To quote Liam Mcrae's book the limitless seducer :






"This explains why we often get phenomenal results with guys during our Residential and Eurotour live training programs. Sometimes they’re going on dates and getting laid in the first two days, before they’ve even really had a chance to soak up much of the theory or principles we teach.

I used to wonder why this was, and now I see the pattern. They are men who’ve gone from doing 10-20 approaches or less per year, to suddenly doing 10-20

approaches in one hour. Over two days, they’ve exposed themselves to more potential opportunities than they have in the previous 2 months, 2 years, and sometimes 2 decades.

So by the sheer number of options they’re giving themselves, their chance of success is exponentially increasing.

I’ve had times in my life where I’ve done forty approaches in a week and got nothing, and started to question everything. Am I bad at seduction? Is it my clothes? This city? Am I sub-communicating something awkward or weird? It’s easy to get stuck in a metal loop, overanalyzing everything.

Then I do another ten approaches, and out of that springs three dates, two of which turn into sex, and one of which becomes an ongoing love affair that I learn a lot from.

IMAGINE IF I DIDN’T DO THOSE NEXT 10 APPROACHES?! And instead spent that time pondering whether I was a fraud or if my clothes were bad or I was having an off month or girls in this city don’t like a guy like me...

As James Marshal says “You’re only one approach away from success... that next approach could be the love of your life.”

Just like in sales, having a high volume of options shows you the bigger trends and avoids you getting hung up on that one girl. The main trend you see is: many girls flake, for reasons outside your control. It happens to all of us, even the best seducers I know. "
Thanks again, I am so gratefull
 

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Glad that one resonated with you my guy.

It is definitely true.

And those thousands are just the ones that are going to see your profile and see that you aren't attractive in their eyes...so no "like" or message will come your way from them.

That doesn't even include the ones who left your messages on read.

So, what you have are rejections are coming from two different angles.

But the selling point for OLD is, you are less likely to experience harsh rejections.

That's what guys seek to avoid, and what is really going on here.
Idk...it's kinda harsh to be on that "good boy swiping " ( not power swiping but swiping selectively) only to get zero ...crickets. you swipe "selectively " on ten women who are sixes, but you never get any response like they either never seen your profile or simply REJECTED you.

It definitely doesn't make a man more confident and I think big reason why so many men gave up in dating is due to OLD, and how it effects their self esteem regarding women.

Rejection from two angels had me almost pissing me pants from laughing

Imagine swiping on 50+ aged ugly women hoping for a quick fvck only to get zero..lol.
 
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