Awful evening clubbing

[Wyldfire]

Okay...I'm going to be honest with you after looking at your photos.

First, you're a decent looking guy so looks isn't the problem. I'm thinking the issue might be that you seem to project a little bit of "dorkiness". Your smile in the bottom picture looks a little off, maybe unnatural or just not that inviting. Instead of smiling at girls, I think a half smirk with raised eyebrow and maybe a little wink would work better for you. You also look better with the little stubble on your face. Oh...and try spiking up your hair a bit and see how that works for you.

Also...you shouldn't make your approaches really obvious because if other girls see you being shot down by other girls they will be more likely to do the same.

 

[Alpine]

Oh I see now, well maybe it was the prefect badge

 

[Matt Rogers]

lol, yeah I was probably a bit overdressed, going for the public school boy look

Yeah, problem is when I smile I look too "nice" and boyish. It seems that the more masculine looking guys seem to score at these discos and clubs, and while I know I am OK looking I do look a bit innocent and boysih. Might try and spike my hair up a bit next time, wear a bit more stubble etc.

 

[Wiesman44]

forget my original post, lol. Your not that bad. You could definitely use a LOT of work at the gym though. That would help a lot to pack on some muscle

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by Wyldfire

Also...you shouldn't make your approaches really obvious because if other girls see you being shot down by other girls they will be more likely to do the same.

Guys, this is a MAJOR tip.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Matt Rogers
lol, yeah I was probably a bit overdressed, going for the public school boy look

Yeah, problem is when I smile I look too "nice" and boyish. It seems that the more masculine looking guys seem to score at these discos and clubs, and while I know I am OK looking I do look a bit innocent and boysih. Might try and spike my hair up a bit next time, wear a bit more stubble etc.

Well, you've got a good base look to work with, so you're lucky there. I would guess that your biggest issue is altering the "sweet boyish" look into a more "devious naughty" look.

 

[PYROTAK]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Well, you've got a good base look to work with, so you're lucky there. I would guess that your biggest issue is altering the "sweet boyish" look into a more "devious naughty" look.

thirded. get that goofy look off your face

 

[Oxide]

Wyldfire got it before me.

From those pics you convey a "im such a nice boy" look, but we all know that women dont want boys, they want a man, so let's give you some attitude.

Hair, definately spiked or messy look. I dont know if your teeth are bad or anything, but either way that little smile will not make any girl fall for you. It looks a little too childish, try a half smirk.

I wore jeans, a white shirt, a tie pulled down a bit, and a blue blazer.

Hah man, that is not what you want to wear to a club. A tie and a blazer? Ever notice that no matter what kind of a night theme it is (school, haloween, 80's) girls always look sexy as hell. They dont get an oversized and bland school uniform for school nightes, instead they wear short ass miniskirts and cleavage like there is no tommorrow. It's all about sex appeal. If you wore that white shirt untucked, with nothing underneath, top buttons and cuffs unbuttoned, possibly colar on top, you would get better results.

How long did you wait before dancing/asking a girl to dance? I usually have the "get in the groove" time, usually about first 30-40 minutes from when i enter. I walk around a bit, girls see me. I dont go on the dancefloor to dance though, i sit for a bit with friends, or stand and watch over the dancefloor spotting possible targets. When i go for it, i usually dance about 40% of the time without a girl. I love dancing, so this is why i do it. If you arent very good at dancing..well try reading some more clubbing posts. But generally i think the idea of the guy who just goes girl to girl without stopping is a turn off. When you show girls that you can have fun in a club without girls, that is when you are money.

So sum all these posts up, change your outfit and look a bit, and go for it.

P.S. I would bring a friend anyway, even if he is an AFC. He can chill by himself while you go out and dancing, but when you demonstrate to him that girls actually love dancing with guys like you, he will start asking you for tips..and possibly turn into a good club buddy of yours.

Good luck bro.
Oxide

 

[Fenderules]

Originally posted by Interpol

All the guys from the other thread who argued sarging alone is better, please enlighten me on how going solo helped this dude out.







Look how many approaches he did...........30! and so he got blown off 30 times!

There is actually a good thing to look at it. Very good. He got blown off 30 times which mean he WENT for it even though he was getting blown off and it expected to get blown off. The fear of rejection diminishes and it will now be easier for him in any situation to apprach a girl as long as he didnt get emo about being rejected 30 times.




I actually am happier when i get rejected to be honest a lot of times because i grow just that much further. The fear of approach weakens because i know what the worst is.......... and its not that bad. Its just fear of the unknown that is retarded but once you do it enough, it diminishes and if you dont take offence, you become relaxed and easy going.



NOw if i were with my buddy i prolly would have done maby 5 approches at most. I actually do feel a bit ackward when i do it in front of my buddies sometimes because:

1. i do lesss approaches because i dont want tp get rejected 30 times in front of my buddes. lol i would never here the end of that one.
2. mOst guys are AFc, therefore most of my buddies are AFC as well minus a few.
3. They get roaring drunk and I sometimes have to keep an eye on them.....or they act like complete idiots.

 

[Craig Reeves]

Hm. I can't get the pics to work....oh well....

The spiked or messy look doesn't work for everyone. It would look extremely stupid on somebody like me, hehe.

 

[SexPDX]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Also...you shouldn't make your approaches really obvious because if other girls see you being shot down by other girls they will be more likely to do the same.

Hahahaha! That's what I was thinking when I read his post. I was just picturing a dude walking around the club hitting on one girl after another for the whole place to see. Definitely bad news for the home team right there.

-PDX

 

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, I have been trying to get a bad boy look for ages, as I do have very boyish "cute" features, rather than the sort of handsome, manly features women go for. Will take those style tips on board.

I don't think other girls saw me get rejected as it was pretty packed and this was spread over around 4 hours.

lol. Thanks for the feedback. I will not give up.

 

[Interpol]

Originally posted by Fenderules

NOw if i were with my buddy i prolly would have done maby 5 approches at most. I actually do feel a bit ackward when i do it in front of my buddies sometimes because:

1. i do lesss approaches because i dont want tp get rejected 30 times in front of my buddes. lol i would never here the end of that one.
2. mOst guys are AFc, therefore most of my buddies are AFC as well minus a few.
3. They get roaring drunk and I sometimes have to keep an eye on them.....or they act like complete idiots.

::Bangs head against table repeatedly::

Obviously, if you hang out with douchebags that's not gonna help you out.

Going out with competent wings > going out alone > going out with idiots

A good wing WILL do the following:

1. Encourage and challenge you to approach
2. Give you social proof
3. Help immensely in approaching sets
4. Guard against ****blocking
5. Give you a confidence boost when you need it

A good wing WILL NOT:

1. Get piss drunk
2. Make fun of you for being rejected
3. Discourage you from approaching
4. Hurt your game in any way

I'm sorry if your friends suck but don't try and tell me that going out alone actually gives you an advantage, I think you would have to be retarded to really believe that.

 

[Matt Rogers]

Yup, my position is that my friends such, and while going out alone is not ideal, for now it is what I have to do until I get some good wings.

 

[Oxide]

Im always down to go out with people who know what the hell is going on. If you ever end up in minnesota, hit me up.

I am pretty happy two of my best friends have their heads on straight. When we go out we generally have an idea of what we are doing, and are not afraid to approach girls.

last night me and one of my buds went out to the coffee shop. We waited for about 10 mins, saw what was aviable. Then i got up and walked over to two girls sitting down and asked them to join us. They had to go however, but my buddy was quick to react, comes up to the girls and gets the numbers as they leave.

We head upstairs after about 20 more mins, there are 3 cute girls sitting there.. we start off the convo by trying to get a cigarette from someone... (for my bud, i dont smoke).. then we pull up the chairs and end up having an hour or so convo with all three. We all exchange numbers.


It is funny cause all of us are in the same position of girls right now "We are looking for a cool girl to be with, but open to fukking hot girls"

 

[PYROTAK]

with regard to the hair, goto a hair salon, a good one, not a bloody barber shop and ask them how to do you hair messy and stuff

a good hair cut and some good products can do wonders

for the messy look i suggest sebastians crude clay

 

[Matt Rogers]

For this messy look how long should my hair be? I am definitely needing to move away from the soppy, posh look. Does anyone have any photos of what the messy look, looks like?

I am going clubbing with a friend this Wednesday so I will see if I do any better and report back.

 

[Alpine]

Just get it clipped on the sides to NO.3 and about cut 1-2inches on top, tell them you want it a little spikey.

That's what I did, (down to no.2), the sides thing make you look more masculine without looking council.

I've also tried a gotee against all my better judgement, this may help you move away from the Nice but dim, Tim look.

Cheers