Average to below average guys with decent women

[Poonani Maker]

I continue to improve my looks AND speech to for better or worse, make hott women (with boyfriend/husband) upset when I reject or act disinterested in them. Eventually if I run into them again, there's a decent chance that they'll stray for a "lover" on the side: me. If she realizes she still wants to be with her husband/boyfriend, then hell at least I got a lay. Always improve yourself regardless of what you see out there in field. Set yourself apart, make yourself unique. I'll never know if I have kids out there from ones that got slipped by the goalie. I mean, if one guy thinks he's raisin his kids when it's mine, so be it. At least my genes are in a roundabout way, movin forward. Now, maybe I'm not taking care of them, but it's still goin out there. Women can't pair-bond as well these days, so I'll be on the opposite end of monogamy.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Yup, if you just stare at women and don't say anything, you'll lose out to uglier men who dared to approach.

And they'll wonder why some creep is staring them like a serial killer planning his next murder.

 

[biggoal]

These guys are not fat they just are not high on the attractiveness.

being fat is an issue because I see fat guys with cute girls a lot down here. granted, here in Floriduh I've never seen more fatter people in my life than Floriduh.

 

[051AV]

being fat is an issue because I see fat guys with cute girls a lot down here. granted, here in Floriduh I've never seen more fatter people in my life than Floriduh.
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Here it’s not fat it’s skinny and geeky or they don’t have the facial features etc, you can tell they are beta type guys.

 

[biggoal]

Here it’s not fat it’s skinny and geeky or they don’t have the facial features etc, you can tell they are beta type guys.

Always better being slim than fat. You can always put on muscle and weight easier. Losing weight much harder, especially as you age.

 

[051AV]

The drama comes with daily interaction and day to day affairs with them over time. You’re really not going to sense it from a glance at 2 people holding hands in the park or at a concert.

Ya that’s true enough usually thou you tell a little bit how they interact with each other. There are times I’ve seen women acting up and I’ve wanted to say something. The poor guy is dealing with her BS. Being with a BPD who’s middle name is drama I can just tell can’t explain.

 

[051AV]

Always better being slim than fat. You can always put on muscle and weight easier. Losing weight much harder, especially as you age.

Obesity isn’t as prevalent here in Canada like it is in the USA. I know what losing weight is all about I was way over weight from a stress laden job. I remedied that problem.

 

[biggoal]

Obesity isn’t as prevalent here in Canada like it is in the USA. I know what losing weight is all about I was way over weight from a stress laden job. I remedied that problem.

Yea, Canada doesn't seem nearly as bad.

 

[biggoal]

Obesity isn’t as prevalent here in Canada like it is in the USA. I know what losing weight is all about I was way over weight from a stress laden job. I remedied that problem.

I'm the opposite. When I'm nervous or stressed I lose weight because I don't eat. last week I lost a few lbs because I was nervous about that girl after the date leading me on.

During the Blues cup run I lost weight too because I was so nervous for them I wasn't eating.

 

[Mike32ct]

Always better being slim than fat. You can always put on muscle and weight easier. Losing weight much harder, especially as you age.

I absolutely agree with you in principle. But with women, it’s never simple.

1. Women like a slim/lean guy if he’s reasonably tall. But a short lean guy is doomed unless he has a hot face or has ridiculous abs or is quite muscular.

2. Some chicks will go for an average or even below average looking fat dude because of his physical dominance.

So looking at 1 and 2, what can happen is an average height (or short) lean guy with average looks/build can lose out to a fat dude.

 

[Dash Riprock]

Knowing what I know now, as a mature 40+ year old man, I would NEVER have a HB8-9 as a girlfriend. Never. Not in this day and age. They are just not worth the drama and headache. I f*uck a lot of them, I just don't ever see them as gf or LTR material.

If I open the door to someone with gf or LTR potential, it's always to around a HB7'ish. The amount of drama and BS drop off after a HB8 is exponential and significant.

 

[biggoal]

I absolutely agree with you in principle. But with women, it’s never simple.

1. Women like a slim/lean guy if he’s reasonably tall. But a short lean guy is doomed unless he has a hot face or has ridiculous abs or is quite muscular.

2. Some chicks will go for an average or even below average looking fat dude because of his physical dominance.

So looking at 1 and 2, what can happen is an average height (or short) lean guy with average looks/build can lose out to a fat dude.

And that's gross I think. I can never imagine being fat again. That's like a lot of guys hate really skinny women. I'd rather take a really skinny woman versus one that's even a few lbs over weight. I don't mean one with an eating disorder, but just really thin. Maybe it's because I'm thin as well, but women with meat or muscle turn me off big time.

Being overweight also makes you look older too.

 

[Robert28]

Knowing what I know now, as a mature 40+ year old man, I would NEVER have a HB8-9 as a girlfriend. Never. Not in this day and age. They are just not worth the drama and headache. I f*uck a lot of them, I just don't ever see them as gf or LTR material.

If I open the door to someone with gf or LTR potential, it's always to around a HB7'ish. The amount of drama and BS drop off after a HB8 is exponential and significant.

Yeah but in this day and age you have to put up with a ton of **** to get some sex from women. Just not worth it sometimes when there are free porn sites and you have a right hand.lol

 

[Toddz]

Summer is wrapping up the seasonal and touristy people are making the last crack at summer. I was observing people today when I was out enjoying the day, you know there is a really strong trend of really decent looking women in relationships with guys that are average some really low on the average scale. It makes a guy think what do you see in that guy? A good looking handsome guy with a good looking woman its fvcking rare I maybe seen 1 or 2 couples, most of the decent looking guys I seen today were alone.

One of the woman I was eying up she was cute, attractive, hard on material, she seen me looking her up and she started hiding behind her BF, wow your that insecure, her BF didn't look overly manly type of guy. Are women that insecure in todays world they need to latch onto a guy that isn't going to run away on them? The women that think their sh*t doesn't stink the ones that are higher up on the attractiveness scale they think they can intimidate a guy, it usually doesn't work with me give them direct eye contact back.

I know women are not into looks as much as guys but you look at these women and they are quite attractive and she's with a guy that isn't equally so. Like I said most of the decent guys were single or were with a chubby chick.

Because good looking men with options don't want to be tied down.

We can date 4 or 5 women at a time and can easily pickup another if one of them drops off.

 

[17 shots]

A good looking man often times wants to, and expects, to be spoiled by his partner just like a good looking woman does. If I want to be treated like a king, and she wants to be treated like a queen, it's not going to work out most of the time

You have a better chance of someone being submissive and subservient to you, if they're less attractive then you are

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Women most definitely care about looks. How many Chad’s do you know are in the friend zone? I’ve never believed the whole “attraction isn’t a choice” thing, it most certainly IS a choice. Women choose to be attracted to tools and *******s, they choose to be shallow and date a guy because he has tattoos or is a certain height or looks a certain way. I see a lot of these mismatched couples sometimes too and I can’t figure it out.

I think there is a thin line between attraction and fetish. If I see a beautiful presentable classy girl with an 8 in looks, no tattoos pretty face banging body. Now another chick walks in has the same banging body, but not a pretty face let's say her face is a 6,but she has tattoos and a highly sexualized look. Me personally due to my fetishes will take the highly sexualized 6 with the tattoos. I'm really trying to work on this though. Reflection

 

[YourGreatestFear]

Yeah but in this day and age you have to put up with a ton of **** to get some sex from women. Just not worth it sometimes when there are free porn sites and you have a right hand.lol

Are you from Stone Age or something? Who uses your right hand in 2019? Fleshlight and other toys actually feel better than most girls. But the point of sex isn't sex itself or your orgasm. It is the whole process of submitting the girl to you for alphas and getting validation for betas. Just sex by itself isn't worth much, you can just get a hooker. But you can't buy a woman's feelings for you and a sense of accomplishment you get by making her yours.

 

[Robert28]

Are you from Stone Age or something? Who uses your right hand in 2019? Fleshlight and other toys actually feel better than most girls. But the point of sex isn't sex itself or your orgasm. It is the whole process of submitting the girl to you for alphas and getting validation for betas. Just sex by itself isn't worth much, you can just get a hooker. But you can't buy a woman's feelings for you and a sense of accomplishment you get by making her yours.

She’s not “yours”, it’s just your turn. I don’t consider myself beta if I wasn’t getting sex from a woman, I view it as her loss not mine

 

[sangheilios]

I made a post about this subject on another thread not that long ago.

Many women would rather date a guy that was less attractive as her if she is a bit insecure or fears being cheated on. Let's face it, the average man in America is not particularly attractive at all, as a significant portion are overweight and out of shape.

Now, let's say you have a cute but normal girl, say a 6 or 7, and she is approached by a 6"3", broad shouldered and ruggedly handsome man. She might be attracted to him but she is also aware that many other women will be as well, and without knowing much about him she risks being pumped and dumped, cheated on, etc. If she had been hurt in the past she'd be even more likely to disqualify him over the tiniest of things out of insecurity.

I'm 6'4", white, broad shouldered and in really good shape and I get rejected A LOT. I've been to speed dating events with 5s and below and didn't get a single match, no responses on OLD, etc. I'm not saying I belong on Vogue magazine but there is definitely some truth to all of this.

 

[YourGreatestFear]

She’s not “yours”, it’s just your turn. I don’t consider myself beta if I wasn’t getting sex from a woman, I view it as her loss not mine

Lol, when a girl begs you to **** her, humiliate herself for you, do whatever you want - she is yours. Alpha doesn't give a **** if she has sex with other guys (be it her beta hubby or some other alpha) because for him she isn't "love of his life", she is just someone who satisfies his needs and completely replaceable. The only thing matter is if she is doing that you want, satisfying your desires. If she is - then you allow her to stay with you. If she isn't - then she has no place in your life. She can't "end your turn", it is you who decides if she can stay with you or not. Also, it seems you missed the point. It isn't that betas don't get sex, it is that when they get it the best thing for them is validation. "Oh, I'm getting sex from the goddess, I'm not a loser, yay!".