"Avatar's 25 approaches in February Journal"

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Hi everyone. I invite you along for a little journey. My name is Avatar. I'm 22 years old.

I broke up with my gf of 1 year this past christmas (yes I know..I'm a jerk). Was back in the game within a week. I've always tended to meet girls at bars..and date them. I have very limited experience on approaching women sober and outside bars. Maybe 2-3 times in my life (cold/outside from school). I've been with quite a few women in my life, but almost all have started from a night at the club. I think I'm missing out on a whole different type of woman (in general).

The goal: I will approach 25 women (with 7-10 looks) outside of the bar scene sober in the month of February.

The intended results:
1) Will give me a sense of control in my life, that the vast majority of guys never achieves.
2) Will better my communication skills, as that will help my professional life too.
3) Get me some hot dates and we'll go from there.

The reason I've picked a conservative # such as 25 is because I'm not dedicating 100% of my time to this exercise. For example, I do not have intentions of steaking out a bookstore for 3 hours before finding my target. If I see something I like during the day, I will go for it.

I encourage all to follow me through, critique, comment, criticize (constructively).

Best of wishes to all. And a special thanks to Pugsley for his inspirational 100 approach thread, that has pushed me into doing this life improving exercise. I hope more follow can follow in our shoes.

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February 1, 2005

Approach 1:

At Chapters (Canadian equivalent to a Barnes) during the afternoon. As I'm pulling into the parking lot, I cut this car off to grab a spot, and then realize it was a good looking girl driving it. OPPS!

We both get out at the same time, and she is a HB7. I said jokingly "sorry for cutting ya off." She said in a normal tone, "no problem". She walks into Chapters ahead of me. I grab a coffee and am walking around. No one catching my eye but her. She is walking from section to section, and although she never looked at me, she was always somehow staying in my view. It took me a good 10 minutes before I said ok your going to feel like **** if she walks out, so I walk right over to her while she is in the cards section. She looks up:

ME: "I gotta ask you, didn't we go to different schools together?"
HER: "Yes, I think we did, did you go to _ _ University?"
ME: "Nope" (with a big smile on my face now)
HER: (Smiling now as well and very receptive) "Well the University is very encompassing, I think you are quite right..we did go to different schools together."
(We both start laughing now)
ME: "Wow you caught onto that one fast. My name is Avatar"
(We shake hands)
HER: "My name is Jen"
(Fluff talk proceeds for 1-2 minutes)
ME: "Well I better get heading out, would you like to go for a coffee sometime?"
HER: "Sure"
ME: "Ok whats your #" (And I pull out my phone, have her put it in)
ME: "It was very nice meeting you Jen"
HER: "Likewise Avatar" (face still lit up)

And we part.

First approach..piece of cake. Next!

Approaches: 1
Numbers: 1
 

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Would you take your Narcissistic journal somewhere else?
 

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Originally posted by DeathDealer
Would you take your Narcissistic journal somewhere else?
Go away please. You are not needed here.
 

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February 3, 2005

Was driving downtown, saw a HB8 stopping by herself at a bus stop.

I decide lets to try for her. I knew it wouldn't be easy.

I stop, roll down my window. She walks up a few steps.

ME: "Hey there"
HER: "Hello" (small smile)
ME: "I see your at a bus stop. You going far?"
HER: (looking a little confused) "A little ways"
ME: "Would you like a ride?"
HER: (thinks for a few seconds) "Umm..no thank you." (But then smiles)
ME: "Alright, have a great day"
HER: "Thank you"

And I drive off.

Next time, I think I need to lead in with a joke, or say something like, "do you ever accept rides from strangers?" in a joking manner.

If anyone has any experience, picking women up/getting #s from their car, I'd very much appreciate any suggestions.

Approaches: 2
Numbers received: 1
 

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Good luck, and congratulations on your first successful approach. Trying to stop a girl when you're in your car and she's walking on the sidewalk can be tough. It would almost be easier to get out of the car somewhere and just walk up to her.
Would you take your Narcissistic Narcissistic journal somewhere else?
If you don't like reading about other people's approaches don't click on a thread entitled "Avatar's 25 approaches".
 

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I think the chances of a girl taking a ride from you are extremely slim, and you might come off a bit creepy even by asking.

It is a bit better to park somewhere nearby, then walk up to her: "Hi there, I saw you while driving by and just had to see what you were like", or something of that nature. If you do it with enough confidence she should get a good impression, since otherwise a guy stopping and parking just to talk to a girl might look a bit desperate.
 

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It is a bit better to park somewhere nearby, then walk up to her: "Hi there, I saw you while driving by and just had to see what you were like", or something of that nature. If you do it with enough confidence she should get a good impression, since otherwise a guy stopping and parking just to talk to a girl might look a bit desperate.
Yeah, it would come off creepy to all of the sudden pull up to the curb and get out, I was actually thinking more along the lines of driving to the next block and pulling into a parking lot some where she can't see and then walk up to her just like you're waiting for the bus as well or just walking along the sidewalk, then if things go well you can say "hey, I'm parked right around the corner, why don't I give you a ride?"
 

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Thanks for the suggestions guys. I think what you say is very valid, however, I'm going to use the car for a few more approaches first before giving up on it.

What I did not mention is I drive a brand new Nissan 350z. If I get 5 ride declines, I'll consider giving up on it but I don't think it will be that unsuccessful.

This journal for me will be very much an experimental and learning process.
 

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Friday, February 4th

Date #1

Well guys, Day 4 into the project and already had a date. It was with the HB7 from the bookstore. These self-run bootcamps kick ass!

Conversation flowed semi-ok. A few small gaps at the start but overall was acceptable. We chatted over a coffee for about 45 minutes, then I asked if she wanted to go for a walk.

Walk lasted 20 minutes. Conversation got better during the walk. Very receptive and enjoying herself. I let her do most of the talking.

I decided at the end when we were parting to ask her if she'd like to go out Sunday night. Is asking for the date during a coffee date a huge no no? I thought it was prior, but I thought it would be better than calling her the very next day and asking. Due to my schedule, sunday is the only day I'm available for the next 5-6 days. Big mistake?

Anyways, she gave me a delighted sure, gave me her address, and I guess sunday is to be a go.
 

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Friday, February 4th

Approach 3

Was at Chapters searching for a new book to buy. A HB7.5 walks in, and starts searching each section. I eventually walk up to her and the convo goes like this:

ME: Hi there...I just saw you over here and thought I'd like to meet you.

HER: (confused look) Ok..hi there (and smiles)

ME: My name is Avatar (I stick out hand)

HER: (She sticks out hers) Mine is Suzanne

(Fluff talk proceeds for 1 minute)

ME: Well I'm gonna go buy this book and get out of here, would you like to go out for a coffee sometime?

HER: I'm sorry...I have a boyfriend

ME: Aww thats too bad. Have a wonderful evening.

HER: Thank you, cya.



I like the casual coffee line for these girls I meet in book stores/malls. However I think I'm gonna change the "would you" to "we should".

Anyways, next!

Approaches: 3
Numbers received: 1
 

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Friday, February 4th

Approach 4 (sorta)

I'm driving down a busy street alone in my car, music going, windows down..just enjoying myself.

I'm parked at a red light in the right turning lane getting ready to turn right, and this nice silver VW pulls up beside me. I look over and sitting in the car are two blondes. A HB7 is in the passenger seat. They also have their blinker on to go right so they must be waiting for a chance to get over one lane.

I look at them both, smile, and point in front of me, basically saying I will let them in. Then I look back straight. Then I hear this:
"Hey!....(I don't look) Hey excuse me!"

(I look over and it was the HB7 yelling from her car..I smile at her)
HER: I just wanted to tell you have you a sexy car.

ME: Thank you..I appreciate that.....(still smiling).. And whats your name?

HER: Elota (big smile)

ME: Well Elota..how about I take you out for a steak dinner?

HER: Sure!

(the light turns green)

ME: Well yell me your digits fast

(She does so, and we drive off.)

It's debatable but I'll count this as an approach.

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Approaches: 4
Numbers received: 2
 

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Originally posted by Avatar
Friday, February 4th

I like the casual coffee line for these girls I meet in book stores/malls. However I think I'm gonna change the "would you" to "we should".
yeah deffintly do that, you can even say lets go out for coffee sometimes.

if you want a C&F reply for a girl asking you to go out for coffee say "im not much of a coffee man, lets go out for a bowl of cereal" :p

oh and the girl you aproched from your car at the bus stop was a lost cause, theres a huge barrier between you, they seem suspicious and never aks her if she wants a ride, they have been warned since they where young never accept a ride from a stranger. Anyone short of brad pitt could not pull this off unless they get real lucky aka the girl is real stupid.

but good stuff, you did well.
 

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i did not mean to make this post and why will it not let me delete it!!!
 

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HER: I just wanted to tell you have you a sexy car.

ME: Thank you..I appreciate that.....(still smiling).. And whats your name?

HER: Elota (big smile)

ME: Well Elota..how about I take you out for a steak dinner?

HER: Sure!

(the light turns green)

ME: Well yell me your digits fast.
Classic, don't know what's debatable about this approach, sounds like a success so far. :D
 

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Friday, February 4th

Approach 5

Ok tonight was a bar night with the boys. I have a great crew of stock brokers that I hang out with once in a while. The night turns into a boilerroom part 2.. but more parental guidance needed.

I won't get into the details of the night..it was a BLAST.

The very first approach of the night I made was a table with two HB7.5s. One blonde, one brunette. I came up and said:

And how are you two ladies doing this evening?

And the convo flowed from there. I quickly grew to the brunette as she had a very exciting attitude. I had a wingman come up to deal with the blonde. Then I saw this girl smile, and omg, she puts almost any celebrities smiles and dimples to shame. She gets pumped immediately to a HB8.5. I commented on her smile and dimples, and she kept the smile on the entire evening. She was so entertaining that I decided to stick around her most the night..ended up talking for over two hours. Her personality was so refreshing that overall I had to bump her up to a 9 (and it wasn't the alcohol at this point..had three buddies I was with verify this.

For a stupid reason the brunette and blonde ended up getting into a fight. The blonde was mad that I didn't hit on her instead. The brunette left but gave me her email before going. Told me she didn't have a phone hooked up at her place right now but wanted me to email her. I'll count it as digits.

I talked to about 8 other girls that evening after the brunette left but they were all a BORE compared to her. Didn't even bother asking for #s..would have been easy enough to though..Maybe a lil oneitis?

I have a question for you bar/club veterans:
When you find a girl early in the night that completely takes your breath away..do you put the time in with her and ignore other girls as long as she is wanting to have you stick around? I chose to because I didn't want her to see me hitting on other women.


Anyways, I feel like it would be a waste if I didn't add this one girl to my approach total. She was a rare find, so I'll slightly bend my journal rules for this one.

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Approaches: 5
Numbers received: 3
 
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Monday, February 7th

Approach #6

Well no approaches on the weekend. Not really any targets either. On the way to a buddy's Super Bowl party I saw a HB8.5 walking alone down the street when I drove by..so I pulled a U-turn and when I got closer to her I chickened out as she looked like she had to be 17..maybe 18.

Today's monday and I was at Starbucks. Chickened out on two approaches with HB7s. I think it was partially due to not really catching my eye / a bit rusty from a few days off.

So anyways, I sit down and started reading..a HB8 next to me and starts reading. I say hi, she says hi back. I look back up and omg, this blonde HB8.5 is walking in my direction..we lock eyes for a good 3-4 seconds and I must of looked like a deer caught in headlights cause she had a look that took my breath away. She sits down by herself with her back to me 20 feet in front of me.

I made real brief talk with the 8 beside me but never tried pursuing her as I now had my target locked.

Here is what happened:

I stand up with the book I was reading and walk up to her table (remember I'm coming in from behind. I felt this was ok because she was already aware of me.). Her head is down and I lean down a foot and:

ME: Excuse me...(she looks up)...*obvious pause* I'm really sorry to interrupt you but I was just on my way out and I wanted to take a minute to get your name. (I then smile)

(after I asked she had an off guard look on her face for 3 seconds and then her face lights up and she gives a brief giggle)

HER: My name is Tiffany (still giggling slightly..almost in a shocked state)

We exchange names, shook hands, and then I continued:

ME: Do you care to chat for a few minutes before I go?

HER: Sure (still smiling)

Right off the bat she is asking me questions about the book I'm reading, what I do for a living..huge signs of interest. She also said at one point she has never had a guy hit on her the way I did at a coffee shop before. Is this a sure fire sign she thinks I'm not like the average guy. IL high?
The conversation lasted for about 8 minutes before I wrapped it up by saying.

ME: Well Tiffany it was great chatting with you. Would you like to go out sometime?

HER: Sure (still smiling)

ME: Alright, gimme your #

We say our goodbyes.

It felt so good getting this #. I feel my confidence growing with every approach. Next!

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Approaches: 6
Numbers received: 4
 

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Great job man! Either is way easier in Canada or you are really good looking because all the approach attempts on here (myself included) never ever go this well

keep it up and congrats!
 

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Dude, are you like really good looking or something? Can you post a picture?
 
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