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I can use help on this one.

At a party this past weekend I ran into the wife of one of my associates at work. I've worked with him for a couple of years and we have a good relationship.

I've known her about as long, but superficially. I must admit that when I first laid eyes on her my blood pressures and other vital signs escalated. She's hot.

She was at the party alone and I was glad to have the opportunity to get to know her better. Little did I know.

Talking to her was enjoyable and I was pleased to have her full attention. At a certain point in the convo I thought what a great opportunity to get insights on women from her, or at least worth a try.

So the convo escalated from small talk to more sexual stuff- strip clubs,
bisexuality, adult conventions, etc.- all good fun for me to chat about.

Then she lets me have it- she does not believe in monogamy and in fact recently gave the husband her blessing to hook up with someone while he was traveling.

Guys, I am not the type to pursue a married woman and this was absolutely the last thing on my mind (other than in fantasy) but fifteen minutes later I was sitting at the top of a staircase making out with her. Wow.

I could not isolate her further and she eventually became concerned that people would notice even though we made some effort to be discreet.
She said she was not worried about her husband finding out, just that people don't understand, etc. Makes sense to me.

At this point I was tipsy (so was she), incredibly horny, and just riding the wave of lust. I told her I wanted more and she said something to the effect that "something could be worked out". She's hot but she has an exterior cool cucumber (in control) demeanor, which I actually find attractive.

So the night ended at a high point. True, the animal in me would have loved to close the deal right then but I must admit that getting that much attention
and juicy kissing, all a big surprise- all in all a great night!

OK: practicalities. I just have her word for her marriage arrangement.
I don't want it to get messy with the husband, who will be around for another six months before he probably moves on to another gig. Because it was such a free-form experience somewhat fueled by alcohol, no blueprint was laid out on how to proceed from here.

I did get an email from her today, terse, pleasant, went as far as saying it was great talking with me Saturday, but no obvious doors opening.

Now what? Do I ask her out for coffee to test the waters under sober bright light conditions to see if the chemistry is still there (yes, that's my job I know). If so, do I then have coffee with him (!) to verify his blessings?
Should I invite both of them over for dinner to get a perspective?

I've got other plates going and I'm not minimizing potential red flags here, but I have to be honest- I was stunned when I first saw this woman and to have her potentially dropped in my lap is an unexpected fantasy scenario I'm not ready to casually dismiss. I could be happy with whatever I got- ONS
or better but I want her if I can get her.

I'm contemplating proceeding basically as I would with any other initial encounter- asking to meet for coffee, etc. and somehow working in the
additional "items of interest", gulp, dealing with a married couple.

Am I nuts? Am I blinded by my lust? Do you see red flags I don't?
Do I have your blessing to proceed? I want her but you can tell I do have
some trepidation about launching into potentially choppy waters.
 

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And to think people give ME sh!t about stuff that isn't half this crazy.

Women.....they aren't the angels some guys hold them up to be, are they?

I'll have to chime in on this later
 

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That boosts my confidence...
Let me have it- I told you I needed help on this one.
 

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The wife of a work associate... I don't think that I'd even touch that one.
 

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Danger said:
Juando,

Dude, you don't walk in another man's garden just because the gardener says its ok. Only the man can tell you it's ok......or there will be trouble.

I admit to driving while lustful, but even in my libidinous intoxication I would not proceed without a clear green signal from him.

Now I am starting to feel like that garden is chock full of mines....
 

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Dude, I almost ALWAYS advise "going for it." but, in this case, I'd say NO.

Too close; you are too close to her husband. And professionally, too.

And you seem to be coming at this from a really wussy direction. She doesn't want COFFEE (and she sure as HELL doesn't want to come over to your house for dinner with her Bubba!!!), she wants you to shake her naked.

If you do this, you do it CAREFULLY. No public appearances, no public NOTHING. Just hook up at a safe place and DO her.

But I wouldn't in this case.

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AND, for GOD'S sake .... DON't discuss this with HIM. Never. Never, ever.

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I'm feeling naive and foolish....
But I did come here for help and mostly I'm appreciative of the candid buckets of ice water.

"Special Vagina" indeed. You guys may have saved my life, so to speak.

Thank you.
 

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For another time, another thread, which I would like to do-
this brings up the whole "open marriage" scenario....
 

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Jundo.

Alot of guys here come from the idea of monogomy, but there are some couples out there who do practice Polyamory.

I know a few friends who wife swap on occassion, no i dont take part or have been there but i have been told the stories, some dont even wife swap but allow there wifes to fuc* the mate cos the husband really does not care.

I know of one couple (from a friend) that go to swinging parties.
This couple i am talking about, the women was married and i just happened to fuc* her about 3 years ago, she was married to some stuffy office manager type guy, total provider guy, well she was doing ok for herself later in life and was smoking hot, one night of her grinding her as* on me led to me fuc*ing her doggie style. 2 years later she has left the husband and is now with the guy i talked about above, she is alot happier and there into swapping each other and allowing each other an open 'marriage'.

So not everything is as black and white has the western social structure would lead you to believe, what is reality?

But you still dont know about the husbands stand on all this, the people i am refering to, all and i mean all had the go ahead from the other party.

Alot of guys on here would most probably state the wife swap women was a 'low quality' women, mmmm she had a job has a area manager for ASDA brought in a dam good wage, knew how to dress feminine, worked out and had a great body and was pritty dam sexy, she just happened to be bored of her 'typical' western boring life.
 

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jesus christ.
when she says she's given the husband the go ahead to sleep around on business trips, what she MEANS is that he does it, she knows he does it, and she can't stop him and so she's USING YOU FOR REVENGE. why don't you let big head take over from little head for a while?
 

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mintxx said:
jesus christ.
when she says she's given the husband the go ahead to sleep around on business trips, what she MEANS is that he does it, she knows he does it, and she can't stop him and so she's USING YOU FOR REVENGE. why don't you let big head take over from little head for a while?
why are people so quick to jump to conclusions.

granted this could be true, but it could also be false.
 

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yeah it could be false. but it's very, very likely and it's a hell of a risk to take given the circumstances.
 

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mintxx said:
jesus christ.
when she says she's given the husband the go ahead to sleep around on business trips, what she MEANS is that he does it, she knows he does it, and she can't stop him and so she's USING YOU FOR REVENGE. why don't you let big head take over from little head for a while?

Who cares about a women's motivation for wanting to bang you. As long as you get what you want out of it, what does it matter her reasons.

This women has more to lose than he does.

As my sig states, I like to live on the edge and do stuff to stroke my ego. I've even taking it as far as banging my boss's wife. Now I'm still close with this former boss and he actually gives me contracts still, however she had more to lose if he found out.

I even remember one day, I was drinking at her house, he called and said he was coming over, so I made the switch and hooked up with her roommate that evevning. She couldn't say anything about it because she had her committments.

That being said, to answer your question, be a DJ. Don't go and be an AFC and ask her husband permission to bang his wife, your almost guaranteeing an awkward situation at work if you do that.

Simply email his wife and tell her to let you know when a good time to get together will be. Leave it as simple as that. Always assume the close, you've already made out with her passionately, you don't need to take a step back and go for coffee. Make her your slvt, she's only a bang, thats it, nothing more, nothing less.

Don't let her get one up on you and make you her puppy dog. She's your wh0re and don't ever forget that.
 

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I had a similar situation happen to me awhile back.

Buddy's wife was naked in my jacuzzi. He goes downstairs and leaves me on the roof with two naked girls. His wife gets out and asks me to help her get dressed. I was freaking out, she kept reassuring me that he doesn't care.

Later in the night she flashed me t!ts and pu$$y while we were sitting on my front steps without the hubby.

Finally we were next door, all of us, and she asks me if I have a beer back at my place. Told her "sure, it's in the fridge" and she asks if I can go "help her find it". If that wasn't an invitation i don't know what is.....

Anyway, i didn't end up ever doing anything with her, and when I posted about it I was met with all of the usual "low quality" and "normal people don't do that" criticism, but what it comes down (as jonwon pointed out) that not everyone adheres to the western puritanical ideas about sex. Maybe they DO have that kind of a relationship.

That said, I would be careful. I wouldn't do it unless you have proof that BOTH parties are cool with the arrangement. Girls of friends or coworkers are off limits unless they know whats up (and sometimes they do). Everything else is fair game.
 

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STR8UP said:
Maybe they DO have that kind of a relationship.

That said, I would be careful. I wouldn't do it unless you have proof that BOTH parties are cool with the arrangement.
I appreciate ALL of the thoughtful responses.

STR8UP, how do I get proof without talking to the husband and asking him outright, which most people here think would be asking for trouble?
 

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Juando said:
STR8UP, how do I get proof without talking to the husband and asking him outright
You don't. If your not man enough to trust your own judgement of a women, then you shouldn't trust yourself around said women.
 

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MacAvoy said:
You don't. If your not man enough to trust your own judgement of a women, then you shouldn't trust yourself around said women.

I agree with you.

I've already contacted her and set the wheels in motion...
 
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