attractive girls with attractive guys, that's it.

[pyros]

So I was having a look at some female friend of mine FB and from there I was cheking some of her cutests female friends profiles, and I always see the same pattern:

- When it is a very cute girl, she is always in a relationship with a guy who is also very good looking, and more often than not, he is also wealthy. So in all the pictures you see they are having a drink in a super cool place, or on a boat, or on some exotic trip, dressing very nice etc, also surrounded by more wealthy and attractive people.

I have other female friends on FB that are not that attractive, let's say HB6's and therefore their boyfriends are not as good looking, and not as wealthy as in the previous cases I mentioned above.

So eventhough many guys here or in other PUA forums say that if you want a hot gf you can use game etc...as a rule attractive girls get together with good looking guys that come from wealthy families. I see it everyday.
However I just see very rarely a very cute girl with a not so handsome guy, this is the exception, and it seems everybody here would like to be that exception but...reality check: it is not the case.

So in my opiniones leagues DO EXIST and very attractive girls can always choose from the best of men, they do not need to 'settle' for something less shiny. It does not matter much if you're super funy or super smart, or you tease her like a king, at the end of the day if she's hot, she wants a guy as hot as her, and with higher status (money) if possible.

It's tiring and sad. I'm more or less good looking but not as attractive as to be with an HB8 for example...not wealthy either lol.

Don't you agree?

 

[IBreatheSpears]

as a rule attractive girls get together with good looking guys that come from wealthy families

Without thinking hard, I can think of two reasons, and both should be obvious to someone like you who has more experience than I do.

1. 90% of men (at least) are running beta-game (at best), and require good looks and money to make up for it.
2. Attractive and wealthy men are confident because they know they're attractive and wealthy.

Men who have game can attract women with who we are rather than what we have. We know that the woman loves us, not our looks or our money, things which can be taken away. No-one can take away your identity unless you let them. The only way a woman who loves you for your game can be taken away is if your game slips (your fault) or someone with better game comes along (not your fault).

 

[Albatross953]

Both are true.

 

[MOTU]

Pyro, that's the concept of SMV: sexual market value. It is comprised of status, looks and game for men and looks for women. You might be able to bang a chick who is of higher SMV than you, but it is hard to keep one around long term...

 

[pyros]

Pyro, that's the concept of SMV: sexual market value. It is comprised of status, looks and game for men and looks for women. You might be able to bang a chick who is of higher SMV than you, but it is hard to keep one around long term...

that's it. They have so many options nowadays, and they're are so entitled that if she is an HB8 in looks, she's gonna date an 8 who has more resources than her if possible. You're not gonna see these girls dating a 7 that is a taxi driver...it does not matter how funy, charming or how much game he has...

Some people say leagues do not exist, but they do. You just have to have a look at FB couples, or real life couples...

 

[bcollarmechanic]

i have to disagree, there is a lot more that goes into this

for starters location is a big factor, also how she is raised is a big factor

in big cities you will typically find really attractive girls with really attractive guys, not so much in the country

then comes how they are raised, if they are raised in a wealthy family then yes they will desire wealth, not so much if they were raised in an average income family

also how attractive was the mother, if the mother was extremely attractive she will probably raise the girl in a way that shows she can have everything she wants by using her looks

but if she is raised in a traditional setting, then not so much, she can be raised to find a nice man with a decent job with good father figure

personality is plays a big role, you can be an hb8 with not social skills at all and wont be able to bag a great guy because you dont know what a great guy is

 

[nismo-4]

Without thinking hard, I can think of two reasons, and both should be obvious to someone like you who has more experience than I do.

1. 90% of men (at most) are running beta-game (at best), and require good looks and money to make up for it.
2. Attractive and wealthy men are confident because they know they're attractive and wealthy.

Men who have game can attract women with who we are rather than what we have. We know that the woman loves us, not our looks or our money, things which can be taken away. No-one can take away your identity unless you let them. The only way a woman who loves you for your game can be taken away is if your game slips (your fault) or someone with better game comes along (not your fault).

For point 1, very true.
For point 2, these guys have a strong foundation to base their confidence on. They are rich and attractive, that's great reason to be confident!

As I have said a lot, game, humor, savoir faire, personality, etc. only does so much if you are ass ugly and broke. You can use all these things, you may get the girl with some luck, but at the end of the day, you are still ass ugly and broke and the woman still has to choose you. This gray area can help, but it ain't gonna make you a male model millionaire suddenly.

 

[bcollarmechanic]

also what are you looking for yourself

you dont have to be drop dead gorgeous and have tons of money to just bang an hb8 or 9, you just have to have good game

personally im not interested in marring a crazy sexy party chick, as they are the ones that will leave you in 5 years and take you for everything you have, when family life sets in for them they get bored and need to find a way out

im in it to bang really hot chicks but in the end i want a really cute girl with strong family traditions who was raised in a good household to settle down with

not some party chick that is only settling down because she feels like its the next step in her life then gets bored and goes back to her old ways

 

[IBreatheSpears]

For point 1, very true.
For point 2, these guys have a strong foundation to base their confidence on. They are rich and attractive, that's great reason to be confident!

As I have said a lot, game, humor, savoir faire, personality, etc. only does so much if you are ass ugly and broke. You can use all these things, you may get the girl with some luck, but at the end of the day, you are still ass ugly and broke and the woman still has to choose you. This gray area can help, but it ain't gonna make you a male model millionaire suddenly.

Only scammers would suggest that any guy can pull 8-10s just by learning game. I wouldn't even say every guy can learn game in the first place - some are just too inert to change, too weak to hold a frame, and too dumb to hold a conversation - but most can, and any guy who goes to the effort of learning game, and successfully applies it, should be able to score girls at least 2 points above his apparent SMV after a few months, or perhaps years, of effort. If I was a 2/10 and my options were (1) near-celibacy, or (2) a long period of sustained effort and growing pains followed by a lifelong ability to pull 3s and 4s with relative ease, I know which one I'd pick.

 

[zekko]

Pyro, that's the concept of SMV: sexual market value. It is comprised of status, looks and game for men and looks for women. You might be able to bang a chick who is of higher SMV than you, but it is hard to keep one around long term...

This topic reminds me of a specific girl I know, who is very attractive. She dated around a lot, with a lot of different guys, including some guys who were not so attractive - guys you might be surprised to see her with. BUT she ended up with another guy who was also considered quite attractive. When they got together, it wasn't long, and bam they were married.

So if this is a typical case, a not so attractive guy with game can date and bang a very attractive girl. But chances are she's going to end up choosing someone else, someone more attractive.

And as nismo points out, richer, more attractive men have more to be confident about. It's harder for a guy with low SMV to consistently keep his confidence and inner game up.

 

[DragonBlood]

Use game to knock her up. Increase kids SMV. Rinse and repeat

 

[pyros]

Use game to knock her up. Increase kids SMV. Rinse and repeat

'game' is not like a jedi power you know?

 

[backbreaker]

Only scammers would suggest that any guy can pull 8-10s just by learning game.

\you can PULL them. you just can't KEEP THEM.

my dad, has pulled so much hot ass it's crazy. but yet, he's 55 years old and single. my dad can talk a woman out of her clothes about as well as any man i've ever seen. but it gets old.


inner game / SMV is like relationship cruise control. I'm ont always on point with my wife. I have my moments. But when my game is not on point I have SMV lol. i'm good looking and i make really good money. my game doesn't have to be 10000% on point all the time.

 

[JdelaSilviera]

Well, you cannot conclude that based on your fb search. Although it's certainly not rare what you describe. Still, there are much more beautiful women out there than men... so they can't all end with good looking guys..

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Bull crap. I see cute girls with unattractive guys my whole life. So you theory is MUTE when it pertains to my personal experience. Other people I know agree that women have been dating down in terms of looks and there was a study done on this. Take these men off your pedestal

 

[mangotot]

While people are reading and writing on this forum, hot people are getting it on.

 

[Mrgoodguy301]

I am not that attractive. But... I did date a model. And I'm not rich, I even ask her why she thought I was so sexy. She said my attitude did it. Guys it's all about ATTITUDE. trust me.

 

[Anargyros]

Let's stop talking about people like merchandise. The HB6 might be a 10 in quality as a woman. And HB10 might be a superficial wh***.

Yes we all want to f*** the HB10, yet I want a caring, love-giving and non-narcissistic woman as a gf

 

[Mrgoodguy301]

Let's stop talking about people like merchandise. The HB6 might be a 10 in quality as a woman. And HB10 might be a superficial wh***.

Yes we all want to f*** the HB10, yet I want a caring, love-giving and non-narcissistic woman as a gf

Your Damn right about that!

 

[dutchmaster]

Who cares man, if you're alpha girls will still fvck you then go home to her beta b1tch bf and give him a kiss with the same lips that were just wrapped around your d1ck