Attraction is there so is effort yet no results

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Wasnt an attractive guy during highschool and never cared about women but after graduating, getting a job, making plenty of good friends and learning more about life and women i started having interest in dating, i worked on my looks, hit the gym, lost some weight and got a good body ( not ripped though) and started expermineting with women, the few co workers i had seemed pretty attracted to me, went out with 2 of them and dated one for few moths and both admitted i was very attractive, then i grew a beard and my attractiveness skyrocketed, i was getting looks from some women i cross path with now its almost all women i meet .

i have been a college student for about 3 years, ever since getting into college it was obvious i didnt have to put much effort into getting women or attracting them, in fact college chicks were the ones gravitating towards me, i got 3-4 numbers without even asking, been hit on by at least 10 chicks, girls told me they liked my cool, laid back approach and that iam very good looking ... of course i knew that without me making effort i wont get results so i did put effort, i did approach women, i did initiate, i did ask women out and plan dates and i have went out with at least 10 girls in my first year of college, some even multiple dates , almost banged two chicks ( got c0ck blocked by a friend ... kicked his asz later, but the chick lived far so never got to meet her again) ... never thought of myself as the " hot" guy and even now i dont, but a couple girls in my major one time looked at me and randomly stated " you are the most good looking guy in the entire major and all the girls like you" .

Sounds good so far right ? a guy that chicks find good looking, he's cool, nice style, knows how to approach women and talk to them , when to push and when to pulll ...etc

but at some point i started noticing a pattern, not trying to sound cool or anything but i attract some of the hottest chicks around even my friends and family noticed, at weddings random ladies would approach my mother telling her you have one handsome son , at college it was the same, flirting and compliments, looks, stares, approaches ...etc , but something felt off ...

here is where my problem begins , my gf was attractive, half the chicks i went out with were attractive as well but most of the time attractive girls show intense interest in me, are open to my approaches, give me their number, text me, flirt with me, even agree to go out , all is good, great chemistry then out of no where the chick vanishes, not even kidding she stops reaching out to me, acts distant and moves on with her life for no reason, no reason at all, iam not boring nor have a weak character i can be quite charming and sexy as well .... some of these chicks had bfs that they never told me about, others i have no idea why they got distant, reaching out after a while, playing dumb, telling the girl to stop playing games ...etc , no matter the approach the result is the same , i reach a plateau .


i read a lot of articles regarding dating, sex and women, read some stuff on this site as well, expirmented and changed my approach so many times nad made an effort to tackle the issue but i simply have no idea what is going on ..

I honestly dont know what the problem is , why a girl goes from super happy, super interested to not even caring about me withing a day despite never doing anything that could trigger such a reaction, yes women are unstable emotionally but it happened dozens of time, just a week ago a chick that was so intersted in me blocked me, she sent a pic of her and asked if she looks hot in her new dress we had a flirty convo for a couple hours, i asked her out a day later, we went out, had fun, messaged me telling me she had a great time and wants to do it again, messaged a few times after that then she blocked me ... like wtf , i just dont know anymore , i am hoping someone on this site has an idea of what could be the reason ...

as i said iam not weak, nor boring, and i am confident with women , i initiate, i go on dates, i make an effort when i know i have to and wait when i know i shouldnt push any harder, no one is prefect but nothing iam doing or not doing can explain the results i get .
 
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as i said iam not weak, nor boring, and i am confident with women , i initiate, i go on dates, i make an effort when i know i have to and wait when i know i shouldnt push any harder, no one is prefect but nothing iam doing or not doing can explain the results i get .
Read the book of pook. It will only take a couple hours. Focus on the parts about being a sexual being, not afraid of his testosterone. Report back with what you've learned.
 

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Wasnt an attractive guy during highschool and never cared about women but after graduating, getting a job, making plenty of good friends and learning more about life and women i started having interest in dating, i worked on my looks, hit the gym, lost some weight and got a good body ( not ripped though) and started expermineting with women, the few co workers i had seemed pretty attracted to me, went out with 2 of them and dated one for few moths and both admitted i was very attractive, then i grew a beard and my attractiveness skyrocketed, i was getting looks from some women i cross path with now its almost all women i meet .

i have been a college student for about 3 years, ever since getting into college it was obvious i didnt have to put much effort into getting women or attracting them, in fact college chicks were the ones gravitating towards me, i got 3-4 numbers without even asking, been hit on by at least 10 chicks, girls told me they liked my cool, laid back approach and that iam very good looking ... of course i knew that without me making effort i wont get results so i did put effort, i did approach women, i did initiate, i did ask women out and plan dates and i have went out with at least 10 girls in my first year of college, some even multiple dates , almost banged two chicks ( got c0ck blocked by a friend ... kicked his asz later, but the chick lived far so never got to meet her again) ... never thought of myself as the " hot" guy and even now i dont, but a couple girls in my major one time looked at me and randomly stated " you are the most good looking guy in the entire major and all the girls like you" .

Sounds good so far right ? a guy that chicks find good looking, he's cool, nice style, knows how to approach women and talk to them , when to push and when to pulll ...etc

but at some point i started noticing a pattern, not trying to sound cool or anything but i attract some of the hottest chicks around even my friends and family noticed, at weddings random ladies would approach my mother telling her you have one handsome son , at college it was the same, flirting and compliments, looks, stares, approaches ...etc , but something felt off ...

here is where my problem begins , my gf was attractive, half the chicks i went out with were attractive as well but most of the time attractive girls show intense interest in me, are open to my approaches, give me their number, text me, flirt with me, even agree to go out , all is good, great chemistry then out of no where the chick vanishes, not even kidding she stops reaching out to me, acts distant and moves on with her life for no reason, no reason at all, iam not boring nor have a weak character i can be quite charming and sexy as well .... some of these chicks had bfs that they never told me about, others i have no idea why they got distant, reaching out after a while, playing dumb, telling the girl to stop playing games ...etc , no matter the approach the result is the same , i reach a plateau .


i read a lot of articles regarding dating, sex and women, read some stuff on this site as well, expirmented and changed my approach so many times nad made an effort to tackle the issue but i simply have no idea what is going on ..

I honestly dont know what the problem is , why a girl goes from super happy, super interested to not even caring about me withing a day despite never doing anything that could trigger such a reaction, yes women are unstable emotionally but it happened dozens of time, just a week ago a chick that was so intersted in me blocked me, she sent a pic of her and asked if she looks hot in her new dress we had a flirty convo for a couple hours, i asked her out a day later, we went out, had fun, messaged me telling me she had a great time and wants to do it again, messaged a few times after that then she blocked me ... like wtf , i just dont know anymore , i am hoping someone on this site has an idea of what could be the reason ...

as i said iam not weak, nor boring, and i am confident with women , i initiate, i go on dates, i make an effort when i know i have to and wait when i know i shouldnt push any harder, no one is prefect but nothing iam doing or not doing can explain the results i get .
Are you phvcking them? That should be top priority to ensure they have sufficient interest.

"Hot girls" will be less reliaby so you will always lose some.

Men who thrive in that territory keep "rotations" or "plates"..
 

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Removing yourself from a situation you're not happy with, will help your mind and your perspective.

Find an exit.
 

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You’re extremely overconfident about your looks and sex appeal.
 

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i asked her out a day later, we went out, had fun, messaged me telling me she had a great time and wants to do it again, messaged a few times after that then she blocked me ... like wtf , i just dont know anymore , i am hoping someone on this site has an idea of what could be the reason ...

as i said iam not weak, nor boring, and i am confident with women , i initiate, i go on dates, i make an effort when i know i have to and wait when i know i shouldnt push any harder, no one is prefect but nothing iam doing or not doing can explain the results i get .
For a guy that wheels, you sound pretty young, and clueless.

At thirty, I don't think about it. I know female nature and hypergamy which is encoded in their DNA. That being, there's always a bigger, better prize, and female hypergamy knows no bounds. The fallback of cratered smv is the epiphany phase Rollo writes about.

Essentially, party phase when thin, young, attractive allocated to Chad's, skiing down cawk mountain. It's party phase and girl power. Entitlement to the max. It's cratering smv, playboy and Chad's stop calling sets off her epiphany phase especially as she nears thirty. Some women are blissfully ignorant even then. I've seen women my age or older deny their biology and their desire for children in piss poor attempt to mitigate their plummeting smv. I've linked to sources of metapause starting Age 35. Possibly sooner. Predisposition to bulking season.


You got ways to go son. If I were you, I would step my game up. Get an education. As in, seek self knowledge not necessarily government schooling. Explore consciousness. Be a free thinker. Refrain from following the herd.

Society pedals girl power. 'don't need a man' until whoops, now you do (wants kids, marriage, technology, war, science, innovation, and creativity, etc). Promo for 'proud single mom' and dead beat dad. Anti slut Shame and fat Shame to mitigate plummeting smv. Shame man to man up, toxic masculinity.

It's a **** time to live in. You need to weather the storm. Society has weaponized women. It is girl power one sec. Victimhood the next. Both perpetrator and victim. Classic calling card of the female chameleon.

Don't get the ring after cratering smv? Cry rape.

Women more my age ***** about the 21yr Olds at the bar. Her problem is not that they're 21. It's that she cannot compete.



Interest one sec. Cold as ice the next. It is a game. Women are anti fragile in society. They're robust. They can be malevolent and cry wolf, unleash SJWs or the dogs if the state in false pretense.


Acquire top form smv, 18-23. If not on top form, do not want. If she is not her best, I do not want. I am not going for cratered smv, for single moms or low hanging fruit. Society is cheering women off the cliff.

Good riddance. Out of chaos comes order. I am a man. I will go get baes or I will strike out. The thing is, it's of secondary importance. Know thy self. Be your best self. Look into free Lance work. Start a biz. Be a go getter. Get your money right. Acquire assets and earn money from a variety of different ways. Have choice in this life.


Read way of the superior man by David Deida. Know, your woman isn't your purpose. Begin to see what society is, note the female biological strategy and how laws pedal to it. Does that mean that you are not to see or date?

Go get Bae but, not at the detriment of your life. Be willing
 

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You’re extremely overconfident about your looks and sex appeal.
I know your not talking about me. I don't think that's the prime thing for a man to worry about. Do you think the dating coaches are some ultra handsome cads? I don't. It's their rulesets and mindset that gives them game.

Anyways, being jerked around takes your power which makes you less attractive.

Chasing ho3s does the same thing. it gives them your power. Let them chase you, and if one isn't interested enough you need to use your time elsewhere. Do not be overconcerned about someone who isn't over concerned about you.

One trait about a leader that seperates him from a non-leader is the ability to not be over eager for something which he wants to obtain.
 

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Sometimes if a guy is too good looking women think eithee they can't compete so why bother getring emotionally invested because you will find someone better and dump them, they dont want to constantly have to "compete" for you or they figure you will cheat on them because women are throwing themselves at you.

However, even if you arent having long term success you should be banging like a rockstar based on looks alone. If you aren't then thats on you because chicks want to fvck you.
 

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Sometimes if a guy is too good looking women think eithee they can't compete so why bother getring emotionally invested because you will find someone better and dump them, they dont want to constantly have to "compete" for you or they figure you will cheat on them because women are throwing themselves at you.

However, even if you arent having long term success you should be banging like a rockstar based on looks alone. If you aren't then thats on you because chicks want to fvck you.
Thats the issue iam facing, unattractive chicks want to date me, they act slvtty and flirt and are open to my sexual advances but when they realize that iam actually going to bang them suddenly they retreat and make it clear they want something serious ... hot girls show a lot of interest, flirt with me and all but then reach a point where they cut me out of their life, of course if they see me they will say hi but thats it no more flirting no more dates not more idk what ... etc

I know a girl that fvcked 5 guys within two weeks, then starting hitting on me, took her out, then went to my friends place cause i have no place and we almost had sex but it was obvious she never had that in mind, the next day she messaged my friend telling him she likes me a lot and wants to date me, then messaged me telling me what do i think about dating her , i said " what ?" and she immediately took that back and said she was joking .

i do get the attention i claim to get iam not ignorant nor making this up iam telling it the way it happens, but for some reason i dont get sex and when i actually want something serious not sex girls run away , i've seen a lot of theories from guys telling me that iam not sexual enough, i dont know how to treat women, i should do this and that , i know the game, i know how to play it i know what women are like and how they act, i can read most people i meet like an open book , iam not some young dumb guy that has no experience or game, or lives in a fantasy i helped friends get chicks, i always manage to find an attractive girl who likes me and approach her, a lot of answers yet not a single one of them is correct or describes me or my situation the answers are aimed at clueless men with no experience or anything to attract women with, its aimed at men with no game with no confidence, iam the opposite of that in fact everyone who knows me thinks i have girls waiting in line .

a friend told me once " I hit on girls and sometmies it works sometimes not, but for you its different " i asked him what he meant and he said : " guys like you dont chase girls, girls chase them, youre not like us normal guys " , i heard that from a tleast a couple other dudes, so iam not imagining things, according to evertything i said i should have a model gf and be banging chicks left and right but iam not, i actually done my reasearch and the only reason i found, was that women dont want to feed an attractive mans ego and they refuse to be used and thrown away by a guy them consider hot so they ignore him and act uninterested ... now is it true ? i have no clue
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Thats the issue iam facing, unattractive chicks want to date me, they act slvtty and flirt and are open to my sexual advances but when they realize that iam actually going to bang them suddenly they retreat and make it clear they want something serious ... hot girls show a lot of interest, flirt with me and all but then reach a point where they cut me out of their life, of course if they see me they will say hi but thats it no more flirting no more dates not more idk what ... etc

I know a girl that fvcked 5 guys within two weeks, then starting hitting on me, took her out, then went to my friends place cause i have no place and we almost had sex but it was obvious she never had that in mind, the next day she messaged my friend telling him she likes me a lot and wants to date me, then messaged me telling me what do i think about dating her , i said " what ?" and she immediately took that back and said she was joking .

i do get the attention i claim to get iam not ignorant nor making this up iam telling it the way it happens, but for some reason i dont get sex and when i actually want something serious not sex girls run away , i've seen a lot of theories from guys telling me that iam not sexual enough, i dont know how to treat women, i should do this and that , i know the game, i know how to play it i know what women are like and how they act, i can read most people i meet like an open book , iam not some young dumb guy that has no experience or game, or lives in a fantasy i helped friends get chicks, i always manage to find an attractive girl who likes me and approach her, a lot of answers yet not a single one of them is correct or describes me or my situation the answers are aimed at clueless men with no experience or anything to attract women with, its aimed at men with no game with no confidence, iam the opposite of that in fact everyone who knows me thinks i have girls waiting in line .

a friend told me once " I hit on girls and sometmies it works sometimes not, but for you its different " i asked him what he meant and he said : " guys like you dont chase girls, girls chase them, youre not like us normal guys " , i heard that from a tleast a couple other dudes, so iam not imagining things, according to evertything i said i should have a model gf and be banging chicks left and right but iam not, i actually done my reasearch and the only reason i found, was that women dont want to feed an attractive mans ego and they refuse to be used and thrown away by a guy them consider hot so they ignore him and act uninterested ... now is it true ? i have no clue
Hey bud,

Most people on this forum will not understand what you are going through thats why they will throw recommendations like you are not escalating fast enough or she is playing you so next her. Majority of girls are insecure and not confident at all...even the really attractive ones thus they are doing this to you. Basically you are the top of the top in looks and your status in your circle and these girls are afraid to get involved with you because of their own fear even if you are a good guy. Girls usually have guys chasing them so they don't feel vulnerable with them like they do with you. I use to think that I was doing something wrong as well before but in fact it was not me it was the girls I wanted to date. Sure you can get laid if you wanted to with h**s but it sounds like you are looking for something real and not a hook up.

My advice is just keep moving foward and keep looking for the girl that has enough confidence to date you that you like... it's not going to be easy bro. You will get autorejected but I doubt you will have trouble dealing with rejection since I am sure your confidence is sky high and now you understand the above. Think about it most guys do this to really attractive girls don't you think girls would do it to really attractive men. Don't stop asking girls out that you like at least you have that benefit since you are a guy, attractive girls do not have that option since they are girls and by design they dont ask guys out thus they are even lonier.
 

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Sometimes if a guy is too good looking women think eithee they can't compete so why bother getring emotionally invested because you will find someone better and dump them, they dont want to constantly have to "compete" for you or they figure you will cheat on them because women are throwing themselves at you.

However, even if you arent having long term success you should be banging like a rockstar based on looks alone. If you aren't then thats on you because chicks want to fvck you.
I know quite a few women who cannot have their men looking "better" than them. It makes them feel shytty about themselves. These same women will try to sabatogue the relationship or game the guy so he feels worse than her.
 

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Thats the issue iam facing, unattractive chicks want to date me, they act slvtty and flirt and are open to my sexual advances but when they realize that iam actually going to bang them suddenly they retreat and make it clear they want something serious ... hot girls show a lot of interest, flirt with me and all but then reach a point where they cut me out of their life, of course if they see me they will say hi but thats it no more flirting no more dates not more idk what ... etc

I know a girl that fvcked 5 guys within two weeks, then starting hitting on me, took her out, then went to my friends place cause i have no place and we almost had sex but it was obvious she never had that in mind, the next day she messaged my friend telling him she likes me a lot and wants to date me, then messaged me telling me what do i think about dating her , i said " what ?" and she immediately took that back and said she was joking .

i do get the attention i claim to get iam not ignorant nor making this up iam telling it the way it happens, but for some reason i dont get sex and when i actually want something serious not sex girls run away , i've seen a lot of theories from guys telling me that iam not sexual enough, i dont know how to treat women, i should do this and that , i know the game, i know how to play it i know what women are like and how they act, i can read most people i meet like an open book , iam not some young dumb guy that has no experience or game, or lives in a fantasy i helped friends get chicks, i always manage to find an attractive girl who likes me and approach her, a lot of answers yet not a single one of them is correct or describes me or my situation the answers are aimed at clueless men with no experience or anything to attract women with, its aimed at men with no game with no confidence, iam the opposite of that in fact everyone who knows me thinks i have girls waiting in line .

a friend told me once " I hit on girls and sometmies it works sometimes not, but for you its different " i asked him what he meant and he said : " guys like you dont chase girls, girls chase them, youre not like us normal guys " , i heard that from a tleast a couple other dudes, so iam not imagining things, according to evertything i said i should have a model gf and be banging chicks left and right but iam not, i actually done my reasearch and the only reason i found, was that women dont want to feed an attractive mans ego and they refuse to be used and thrown away by a guy them consider hot so they ignore him and act uninterested ... now is it true ? i have no clue
So you want to phvck and they probably would but they want to lock you down?

And it's not fair cause your friends fvck em and don't have to be their man?

So you can decide your a player and tell them what they want to hear. Phyck them. They'll figure it out in time.
 
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Thats the issue iam facing, unattractive chicks want to date me, they act slvtty and flirt and are open to my sexual advances but when they realize that iam actually going to bang them suddenly they retreat and make it clear they want something serious ... hot girls show a lot of interest, flirt with me and all but then reach a point where they cut me out of their life, of course if they see me they will say hi but thats it no more flirting no more dates not more idk what ... etc

I know a girl that fvcked 5 guys within two weeks, then starting hitting on me, took her out, then went to my friends place cause i have no place and we almost had sex but it was obvious she never had that in mind, the next day she messaged my friend telling him she likes me a lot and wants to date me, then messaged me telling me what do i think about dating her , i said " what ?" and she immediately took that back and said she was joking .

i do get the attention i claim to get iam not ignorant nor making this up iam telling it the way it happens, but for some reason i dont get sex and when i actually want something serious not sex girls run away , i've seen a lot of theories from guys telling me that iam not sexual enough, i dont know how to treat women, i should do this and that , i know the game, i know how to play it i know what women are like and how they act, i can read most people i meet like an open book , iam not some young dumb guy that has no experience or game, or lives in a fantasy i helped friends get chicks, i always manage to find an attractive girl who likes me and approach her, a lot of answers yet not a single one of them is correct or describes me or my situation the answers are aimed at clueless men with no experience or anything to attract women with, its aimed at men with no game with no confidence, iam the opposite of that in fact everyone who knows me thinks i have girls waiting in line .

a friend told me once " I hit on girls and sometmies it works sometimes not, but for you its different " i asked him what he meant and he said : " guys like you dont chase girls, girls chase them, youre not like us normal guys " , i heard that from a tleast a couple other dudes, so iam not imagining things, according to evertything i said i should have a model gf and be banging chicks left and right but iam not, i actually done my reasearch and the only reason i found, was that women dont want to feed an attractive mans ego and they refuse to be used and thrown away by a guy them consider hot so they ignore him and act uninterested ... now is it true ? i have no clue
Well why did she fvck those other 5 guys in 2 weeks?
 

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Try looking to a big mirror... try to see your mistakes. Try to see where are you going bad. Go out with wings. Ask them for help, to see what is bad with you. A good wing is good to see your mistakes. Find some wing friends and go out with them.
 

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Wasnt an attractive guy during highschool and never cared about women but after graduating, getting a job, making plenty of good friends and learning more about life and women i started having interest in dating, i worked on my looks, hit the gym, lost some weight and got a good body ( not ripped though) and started expermineting with women, the few co workers i had seemed pretty attracted to me, went out with 2 of them and dated one for few moths and both admitted i was very attractive, then i grew a beard and my attractiveness skyrocketed, i was getting looks from some women i cross path with now its almost all women i meet .

i have been a college student for about 3 years, ever since getting into college it was obvious i didnt have to put much effort into getting women or attracting them, in fact college chicks were the ones gravitating towards me, i got 3-4 numbers without even asking, been hit on by at least 10 chicks, girls told me they liked my cool, laid back approach and that iam very good looking ... of course i knew that without me making effort i wont get results so i did put effort, i did approach women, i did initiate, i did ask women out and plan dates and i have went out with at least 10 girls in my first year of college, some even multiple dates , almost banged two chicks ( got c0ck blocked by a friend ... kicked his asz later, but the chick lived far so never got to meet her again) ... never thought of myself as the " hot" guy and even now i dont, but a couple girls in my major one time looked at me and randomly stated " you are the most good looking guy in the entire major and all the girls like you" .

Sounds good so far right ? a guy that chicks find good looking, he's cool, nice style, knows how to approach women and talk to them , when to push and when to pulll ...etc

but at some point i started noticing a pattern, not trying to sound cool or anything but i attract some of the hottest chicks around even my friends and family noticed, at weddings random ladies would approach my mother telling her you have one handsome son , at college it was the same, flirting and compliments, looks, stares, approaches ...etc , but something felt off ...

here is where my problem begins , my gf was attractive, half the chicks i went out with were attractive as well but most of the time attractive girls show intense interest in me, are open to my approaches, give me their number, text me, flirt with me, even agree to go out , all is good, great chemistry then out of no where the chick vanishes, not even kidding she stops reaching out to me, acts distant and moves on with her life for no reason, no reason at all, iam not boring nor have a weak character i can be quite charming and sexy as well .... some of these chicks had bfs that they never told me about, others i have no idea why they got distant, reaching out after a while, playing dumb, telling the girl to stop playing games ...etc , no matter the approach the result is the same , i reach a plateau .


i read a lot of articles regarding dating, sex and women, read some stuff on this site as well, expirmented and changed my approach so many times nad made an effort to tackle the issue but i simply have no idea what is going on ..

I honestly dont know what the problem is , why a girl goes from super happy, super interested to not even caring about me withing a day despite never doing anything that could trigger such a reaction, yes women are unstable emotionally but it happened dozens of time, just a week ago a chick that was so intersted in me blocked me, she sent a pic of her and asked if she looks hot in her new dress we had a flirty convo for a couple hours, i asked her out a day later, we went out, had fun, messaged me telling me she had a great time and wants to do it again, messaged a few times after that then she blocked me ... like wtf , i just dont know anymore , i am hoping someone on this site has an idea of what could be the reason ...

as i said iam not weak, nor boring, and i am confident with women , i initiate, i go on dates, i make an effort when i know i have to and wait when i know i shouldnt push any harder, no one is prefect but nothing iam doing or not doing can explain the results i get .
lol this post reminds me of my 1st post on here. So, the possibilities. 1) Remember, when you're away from the girl she's had chances to bump into someone more attractive than you irl or online. Hypergamy wins. 2) Women are extremely sensitive to feeling like a slut. So downplay things to where surface communication seems innocuous. Sometimes it just can't be helped from the risk scare of cheating, etc. 3) You might be trying too hard mid-game and not realizing it thus lowering your status.

These are like the general troubleshooting issues for someone like you my guy. Good luck.
 

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Very attractive women have lots of options. You have a great deal of competition. That is all that is happening. Just keep doing what you are and don't be too picky.

Just because you can attract 9s and 10s... does not mean you can close the deal with them. 6-8s are more fun and better in bed anyway.
 

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Well why did she fvck those other 5 guys in 2 weeks?
she fvcked 2 who provided her food few times a week, another two for sh*ts and giggles and she was horny and the 5th she knew from one of her classes, the dude is 5'2 , unattractive bty everyones stadnards , guys to this day still wonder why she called him, invited him over and fvcked him, he wasnt even aware of the possibility of sex with her .... iam 6'2, average build and all the guys she had sex with were not taller than 5'10, skinny or kinda chubby even, and according to every girl i know less attractive than me .
 
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she fvcked 2 who provided her food few times a week, another two for sh*ts and giggles and she was horny and the 5th she knew from one of her classes, the dude is 5'2 , unattractive bty everyones stadnards , guys to this day still wonder why she called him, invited him over and fvcked him, he wasnt even aware of the possibility of sex with her .... iam 6'2, average build and all the guys she had sex with were not taller than 5'10, skinny or kinda chubby even, and according to every girl i know less attractive than me .
Who knows.

Seems they fvck all kinds of guys for all kinds of reasons. Yet they never fvck me for free, and I don't believe looks are my problem.
 

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Hey bud,

Most people on this forum will not understand what you are going through thats why they will throw recommendations like you are not escalating fast enough or she is playing you so next her. Majority of girls are insecure and not confident at all...even the really attractive ones thus they are doing this to you. Basically you are the top of the top in looks and your status in your circle and these girls are afraid to get involved with you because of their own fear even if you are a good guy. Girls usually have guys chasing them so they don't feel vulnerable with them like they do with you. I use to think that I was doing something wrong as well before but in fact it was not me it was the girls I wanted to date. Sure you can get laid if you wanted to with h**s but it sounds like you are looking for something real and not a hook up.

My advice is just keep moving foward and keep looking for the girl that has enough confidence to date you that you like... it's not going to be easy bro. You will get autorejected but I doubt you will have trouble dealing with rejection since I am sure your confidence is sky high and now you understand the above. Think about it most guys do this to really attractive girls don't you think girls would do it to really attractive men. Don't stop asking girls out that you like at least you have that benefit since you are a guy, attractive girls do not have that option since they are girls and by design they dont ask guys out thus they are even lonier.

You are right about that girls are not confident most of the time and despite acting tough they are not actually tough like they claim , i do fine with women i have no problem talking to women or joking around with them, but i dont like getting too close, i see some guys hugging girls left and right and acting like they're best buddies ... yeah not my thing, i either wanna date you ro fvck you or just be cool with you as my coworker/classmate or part of a large friends circle, its not lack of confidence nor shyness i simply dont like that kind of connection with random chicks i meet even if i know them and see them daily its just not my thing, most hot girls i met dont have hot bfs, or if they do have hot bfs the dude is always less attractive than her its rare to meet a couple where the guy is more attractive than the girl, weird i know but thats how it works i guess, my only option is to keep trying .
 
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