Attraction is NOT a choice

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First, and foremost, Attraction is NOT a choice; something MOST males just don't seem to realize as the truth. FEMININE women are innately attracted to alpha males, males that manifest natural MASCULINE qualities.

Also understand that most of communication between a male and a female is through nonverbal terms. Women can not HELP, the more feminine the more helpless, but to be drawn to alpha traits.

Plenty of guys who are supremely confident and good looking still can't get laid on even their best days. And plenty of not so hot looking guys with issues and hangups still get laid all the time. Regardless of looks OR confidence. If guys can understand that it's not confidence at all but a natural maleness, then they're aligning with Mother Nature, which will only benefit them in the "Scoring" department.

That presence of natural 'maleness' is what we call Dominance, as it depicts an essence of inherant strength and ability found only in the masculine half of the polarity required for mating. It is this natural embodiment of maleness that compels the feminine attraction, and vice versa - the more female a female is, the more guys fall all over themselves to get to her. It's subconscious compulsion - it is how we are programmed to know the difference in "mates" so that when it's time to mate, we can do so and not completely malfunction the species.

It is this mis understood "radar" that women who end up with the "strutting, abusive alpha males" are compelled by. They see the male exuding this natural dominance, natural maleness - because abusers seldom, if ever, display any feminine characteristics at all (i.e. heart, caring, compassion, nurturing)...and women who have compensation issues will inevitably be drawn to these people for the required polarity integration. There is much more behind this natrual attraction, and not intended for this discussion other than to point out that if there is an attraction present at all toward another person, it's there because of genetic programming and not because of something external in another person.

People this is very SIMPLE evolutionary biology that needs to be understood and taken into consideration.

Moral of the story? Capture and embrace your innate MASCULINITY and women will be drawn to you. LMS is right when he says that most men have been brainwashed with this feminazi society to keep beta males in a state of confusion. Again embrace your maleness, hit the gym (increase testosterone), compete in various activities such as sports, and have less feminine influences (other then your mother) in your life and women wont be able to help themselves but be drawn to you. Simple but MOST males will never understand this concept. Do yourself a favor and be the MAN you were born to be.
 

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I have read something similiar to this before. But it doesn't explain why many women date feminine PRETTY BOYS.
 

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persiangino said:
If guys can understand that it's not confidence at all but a natural maleness, then they're aligning with Mother Nature, which will only benefit them in the "Scoring" department.

That presence of natural 'maleness' is what we call Dominance, as it depicts an essence of inherant strength and ability found only in the masculine half of the polarity required for mating. It is this natural embodiment of maleness that compels the feminine attraction, and vice versa - the more female a female is, the more guys fall all over themselves to get to her. It's subconscious compulsion - it is how we are programmed to know the difference in "mates" so that when it's time to mate, we can do so and not completely malfunction the species...........
Your claims are not in agreement with many everyday observations about dating. post scientific evidence to back up these claims now!!
 

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God_of_getting_layed said:
Your claims are not in agreement with many everyday observations about dating. post scientific evidence to back up these claims now!!
I agree. From what I understand you're saying that all guys can attract hot women by simply embracing their masculinity. (whatever that means) I'm pretty sure its a little more complex than this.
 

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Absolute BS. I have freaking YET to see a girl at a party with an abusive mail! I have yet to see a guy who ignores girls to get some! All guys are talking to girls most of the time and they love it and they have sex with them later!

This alpha male stuff is CRAAAAAAP. It will not work in most cases!
 

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i'm puzzled. so your telling me while i blasted into a guitar solo to crimson and clover, the most pussiest song on the planet and the girl i've been together with for the last 5 years, choice should have been to get together with the alpha sitting in the corner is BS. the alpha is overrated.

there are tougher guys and more confident guys then me that hit on my chick and i'm suppose to worry? i don't think so. i think if you find the right woman, who is a one woman man, she could care less about attention from others than your doing just fine.

attraction is not a choice was coined by david deangelo and that has to be the biggest crock of sh@t i read. guess what. there was this girl who talked about this guy constantly and she practically stood still when he walked by. then a guy who fell down the stairs and laughed it off caught her attention. he was clumsy and funny. later that night i saw the two of them sitting together exchanging jokes and soon enough he kissed her. what the hell happened to the so called tough alpha male? he got arrested that night and her comment was "what a loser". what the hell?
 

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I agree with the op 100%.

Doesn't matter who coined the term, it makes sense. Either you find a girl attractive or you don't. You don't switch it on and off at will.

I think some of you are misunderstanding the point. He's not saying be abusive or act tough. He's saying embrace your masculinity and yes it has a lot do to with biology.

rakishness said:
I have read something similiar to this before. But it doesn't explain why many women date feminine PRETTY BOYS.
Women have reasons for dating all sorts of people but I'm willing to bet she'd be getting much hotter sex from the shredded 200lb guy who busts his ass at the gym than the 150lb emo punk. Even so, this also goes to prove the point that attraction is not a choice, hence why she's attracted to the "pretty boy".

L777 said:
I agree. From what I understand you're saying that all guys can attract hot women by simply embracing their masculinity. (whatever that means) I'm pretty sure its a little more complex than this.
If you don't know what embracing your masculinity means, then on what basis can you state that it's "a little more complex"?

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Absolute BS. I have freaking YET to see a girl at a party with an abusive mail! I have yet to see a guy who ignores girls to get some! All guys are talking to girls most of the time and they love it and they have sex with them later!

This alpha male stuff is CRAAAAAAP. It will not work in most cases!
1) You must not have been to a lot of parties. 2) Whenever alcohol is involved things change. 3) If the alpha male stuff was crap everyone here would be getting laid and the site wouldn't exist.
 

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I agree with the op 100%.

Doesn't matter who coined the term, it makes sense. Either you find a girl attractive or you don't. You don't switch it on and off at will.

I think some of you are misunderstanding the point. He's not saying be abusive or act tough. He's saying embrace your masculinity and yes it has a lot do to with biology.



Women have reasons for dating all sorts of people but I'm willing to bet she'd be getting much hotter sex from the shredded 200lb guy who busts his ass at the gym than the 150lb emo punk. Even so, this also goes to prove the point that attraction is not a choice, hence why she's attracted to the "pretty boy".



If you don't know what embracing your masculinity means, then on what basis can you state that it's "a little more complex"?



1) You must not have been to a lot of parties. 2) Whenever alcohol is involved things change. 3) If the alpha male stuff was crap everyone here would be getting laid and the site wouldn't exist.


200lbs ripped working out alpha male does not mean good sex at ALL.

See, people DO get laid and people here are mostly complete losers who came for newbie advice.

Many are addicted to the site.

I agree that one needs to workout all the time, do sports, do manly things, but being ABUSIVE to women is just stupid.

Maybe just take a brick and smack a hor in the face with it and call yourself a man?

I met plenty of girly girls who are nice and sweet and do not need to be ABUSED.
 

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You're not entirely correct saying "attraction is not a choice".

Beauty is AT LEAST partly defined by society. It is a fact that the idea of a beautiful woman in other countries is NOT the same as here. And the idea of a beautiful woman was not the same farther back in history.

I do agree with you that attraction has a largely intrinsic factor within the male himself, but you cannot say there is absolutely no external factor. You would be fighting blatant facts otherwise.
 

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I think most of you are missing the point he's making.

Going to the gym single handedly is not going to get you women.
Walking around like a hardass isn't either.

These are all unnatural ways that men try to be manly. It's artificial.
Believe it or not, women rarely care what your gym schedule is.

In fact, a lot of the men who who consistently land women don't even go to the gym.

Why?

Because physical attraction is only a first glance. Once women get past your appearance, they will look for something more; right away. They will look for natural characteristics that make you a man. Not your muscles. Not your gym schedule. But your integrity. A woman can spot it right away.

Believe it or not, women don't crave guys who are in top physical shape who are ready to pound them into oblivion. While some women drop to this level, most women who are worth the time aren't this shallow.

Women crave men who are in touch with themselves and everyone else.
Women crave men who are confident in their ways and never look back.
Women crave men who are not like the rest of the bunch.
Women crave men who aren't out to impress anyone but themselves.
Lastly, women crave men who can challenge them intellectually (We are the dominant sex aren't we?).

Women DON'T crave men who believe they need to go to the gym to attract them. Now, how many guys do we know that goto the gym to attract women (whether they will admit or not)?

Bingo.
 

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WC2 said:
I think most of you are missing the point he's making.

Going to the gym single handedly is not going to get you women.
Walking around like a hardass isn't either.

These are all unnatural ways that men try to be manly. It's artificial.
Believe it or not, women rarely care what your gym schedule is.

In fact, a lot of the men who who consistently land women don't even go to the gym.

Why?

Because physical attraction is only a first glance. Once women get past your appearance, they will look for something more; right away. They will look for natural characteristics that make you a man. Not your muscles. Not your gym schedule. But your integrity. A woman can spot it right away.

Believe it or not, women don't crave guys who are in top physical shape who are ready to pound them into oblivion. While some women drop to this level, most women who are worth the time aren't this shallow.

Women crave men who are in touch with themselves and everyone else.
Women crave men who are confident in their ways and never look back.
Women crave men who are not like the rest of the bunch.
Women crave men who aren't out to impress anyone but themselves.
Lastly, women crave men who can challenge them intellectually (We are the dominant sex aren't we?).

Women DON'T crave men who believe they need to go to the gym to attract them. Now, how many guys do we know that goto the gym to attract women (whether they will admit or not)?

Bingo.
In touch with themselves and everyone else?

Not like others? I see them tough alpha males EVERYWHERE. I think they are make the majority of club and party population!


But gym guys do get the PRETTIEST girls. See, working out and setting goals in sports life is a dedication.

I workout all the time, but not for girls. Rather, I do for my personal self esteem, health, and the feeling of achievement.
 

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Just being very masculine but lacking the skill to lead and dominate won't get you there. The social skills must also match the body to be perfect package. One of the two main switches of women is the "leader of the men". To be this man you have to be the most situationally relevant person of the group. You are in control of the conversational threads and it is you who decides what is done next. Being well build and muscular usually offers instant compliance from others.

The next switch is "preselected by other women". Flip this one too and girls can't help but fall on your knees. Attraction really isn't a choice.
 

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WC2 said:
I think most of you are missing the point he's making.

Going to the gym single handedly is not going to get you women.

These are all unnatural ways that men try to be manly. It's artificial.
Believe it or not, women rarely care what your gym schedule is.

In fact, a lot of the men who who consistently land women don't even go to the gym.
It got me women.

Unnatural? Lifting heavy increases your testosterone which, scientifically speaking, is the defining male characteristic.

Wake up bro - hot chicks want sex with hot dudes, plain and simple. You don't want to bang a chub who's "super smart and funny and pleasant to be around", do you?
 

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How ripped you are usually doesn't really mean shyt to girls, sorry guys. The great majority of women out there would rather be with a guy with nice face, nice grooming and fashion, who is not fat. Good muscle tone, but doesn't have to be Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Of course being a chubby slob is not good - but you don't have to take it to the extreme of 4 hour workouts and taking supplements every day. You're much better off working out less often, and using the time to work on your career and yourself.
 

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da_hunter said:
How ripped you are usually doesn't really mean shyt to girls, sorry guys. The great majority of women out there would rather be with a guy with nice face, nice grooming and fashion, who is not fat. Good muscle tone, but doesn't have to be Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Of course being a chubby slob is not good - but you don't have to take it to the extreme of 4 hour workouts and taking supplements every day. You're much better off working out less often, and using the time to work on your career and yourself.
true, but having muscle is a big plus. good for health and looks.
for example, i got ten times more female attention and positive reaction on myspace when i posted a body pic instead of just my face.
 

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Agrees with WC2.

I always got the chicks by being more fun, clever, cool and clued in than the other guys.

The true secret to this "alpha" concept is making a woman feel safe when she is in your presence.

JJ
 

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da_hunter said:
How ripped you are usually doesn't really mean shyt to girls, sorry guys. The great majority of women out there would rather be with a guy with nice face, nice grooming and fashion, who is not fat. Good muscle tone, but doesn't have to be Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Of course being a chubby slob is not good - but you don't have to take it to the extreme of 4 hour workouts and taking supplements every day. You're much better off working out less often, and using the time to work on your career and yourself.
Hogwash. Nice face, grooming and fashion all matter, but so does your body. And you don't need to work out 4 hours a day to get a killer bod. And since when did working out not constitute as working on yourself? It's pretty much the best investment you can make. Your career won't mean jack sh!t when you get sick. I'd rather have a nice body than a nice car.

Raikojo17 said:
true, but having muscle is a big plus. good for health and looks.
for example, i got ten times more female attention and positive reaction on myspace when i posted a body pic instead of just my face.
My thoughts exactly. I've gone through a huge transformation the past 10 months and the attention (and ease of getting laid) has skyrocketed.

Jay Jay said:
I always got the chicks by being more fun, clever, cool and clued in than the other guys.

The true secret to this "alpha" concept is making a woman feel safe when she is in your presence.

JJ
And having muscles goes a long way to make a girl feel safe. I've been told this, literally by girls, time and time again.
 

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HOLY MOTHER OF JESUS. WOW you guys. This is VERY simple. I had no intention of confusing everyone, i thought this was something universally known and scientifically proven. The alpha male has always subconsciously attracted the opposite sex, to the point where girls don't even know why they are attracted to him. The same way heterosexual males are attracted to very feminine girls! Don't you guys go to parties, clubs? Aren't you observant of your surroundings (living conciously is an alpha trait :rolleyes: ) Look around you and see which guys the girls cling to and think is 'hot'.

Don't confuse this 'hot' with physical beauty cause that is not necessarily the case. He can be a skinny fcuk but still have the feminine biches lustin for him. Instead of being Beta males and hating (Jealousy is a female trait) on the dude, try to understand why he attracts *****es; look at his BL, posture, etc. Again muscles are not chick magnets if you BL says you're a girly girl in the sac (BL is over 80% communication!) Remember, the point of going to the gym is to help you maintain you masculine/rough identity and to increase testosterone.

Moral of the story? Start living like Alpha males instead of BETAS. Cause even as a disallusional beta you might land yourself a girl your girl will most definitely have hot, sweaty sex with the Alpha male, and cheat on you. (That is if your girlfriend was actually feminine and not a d!ke like most girls today taking advantage of the feminazi agenda)

What are we seeing today? The phenomena of a player and a hoe and how *****es act upon their 'emotions' LOL. Again girls are SUBCONCIOUSLY attracted to ALPHA traits. If you're not alpha to begin with, atleast emulate their body language, stop being the nice guy. This doesn't mean to be a fake jerk either cause *****es will see right through that.

Once you get to this point *****es will be approaching you, cause lets face it Alpha males are very rare in society. You'll be getting so much ***** you won't even know what to do with it. Go out, embrace your masculinity, and start living consciously like REAL males.
 

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persiangino said:
HOLY MOTHER OF JESUS. WOW you guys. This is VERY simple. I had no intention of confusing everyone, i thought this was something universally known and scientifically proven. The alpha male has always subconsciously attracted the opposite sex, to the point where girls don't even know why they are attracted to him. The same way heterosexual males are attracted to very feminine girls! Don't you guys go to parties, clubs? Aren't you observant of your surroundings (living conciously is an alpha trait :rolleyes: ) Look around you and see which guys the girls cling to and think is 'hot'.
Holy-fvcking-sh!t Batman! ANOTHER Deangelo clone!

why not just copy and paste the entire e-book?
 
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