Attracting Models, Beautiful & Intelligent Women, 10s, etc.

[Bluewater7]

Hello,

After much research, I've noticed that this forum rocks. It is one of the best for "real" advice on self-improvement and Tyler Durden / RSD "natural" game.

So, here's something that might be cool for some of you. There's a product that's being developed that basically is designed to help us guys get "real" advice on how to approach/attract/pickup the most beautiful women in the world.

The advice is not BS. Its not really "tricks" or "lies", etc. Its from models themselves.. who have been in Playboy (Special Editions or main mag), in Maxim, have acted, modeled in other publications, etc. They are helping you and you're getting in-depth information straight from the "horses mouth" (pretty "horses", at that).

I am basically looking for about 7 guys who would like to get a first crack at a portion of this info for free in exchange for a video of what the information did for them and how it helped you. It's pretty much limited to 7 right now.

If that sounds cool, then PM me and let me know about yourself along with maybe a 30 second video on youtube (link) where its you just talking about yourself and describing yourself and why the info would be good for you. You don't have to look a certain way, act a certain way, etc. You should be 18 or over.

Videos are preferred but if you can do an audio recording (by calling a phone number I give you and leaving a message) with a photo that's cool, too. First dibs go to those who can do a video of you sitting (or standing) and talking. A couple minutes is fine.

Take care!

bw7

 

[020204]

I am interested in this research do you have a link or somewhere I can send a post. I am from Australia and if we could hook up to discuss this more that would be great.

 

[Bluewater7]

Sure, I'll PM you more info.

Edit: I'll have to make a few more posts before I can PM I believe. Will work on it and PM you soon.

 

[trent81]

Here's what helped me in the real world in fuvking hb 10's Don't need a video for this one.

1. GOOD LOOKS
2. MONEY
3. COCAINE
4. BEING THE GUY WHO HAS THE ......SO SHE CAN HAVE FUN*fill in the blank

 

[Bluewater7]

Thanks Trent. Insightful... but, some guys don't have 1-4 I'm afraid and actually want to get real advice from really hot girls. And perhaps girls who aren't interested in coke and have a future.

 

[Igetit!]

Thanks Trent. Insightful... but, some guys don't have 1-4 I'm afraid and actually want to get real advice from really hot girls. And perhaps girls who aren't interested in coke and have a future.

The part of this I underlined,(the part about girls who aren't interested in cocaine and have futures),I TOTALLY AGREE with you on that.



But this thing about getting advice from women? I'm HIGHLY doubtful their advice will help.



One thing I do know for certain: These "really hot women" would never be attracted to these same guys their giving advice to.



They'd NEVER be interested or attracted to a guy they had to "teach" how to get a girl.




I try not to judge a book by it's cover,but I've rarely seen a woman give a guy advice,and the guy actually get what he wanted out of the situation.




And the thing is this:I don't think that women intentionally try to mislead guys. I honestly believe that.



I believe they mean well. They just don't know what they're talking about.




If this thing ever gets up and running,come back here and tell us some of this "helpful information" these women gave.



I'd really like to hear what they have to say.



A lot of us here will ALREADY KNOW if what they say could be helpful or not.

 

[Bluewater7]

Hi Igetit,

I appreciate your response and I know you're an intelligent guy. However, you could not be further from reality on this one. I suppose it is possible that the majority of guys on this forum have dated the most beautiful girls in the world consistently, and they communicate with them in both friendly and romantic ways all the time. However, this is highly doubtful. And to say it wouldn't help to have their input is incorrect.

Let me give you a few scenarios:

You walk into a bar or nightclub with two 10s. And these are 10s relative to where you are. Small-town Kentucky 10s are different than South Beach 10s - far different. And, also, these girls are nice to you, like you as a person, etc. The fact of the matter is that you become an INSTANT celebrity wherever you are. Try it some time. With just these girls as friends, you now have the ability to communicate with almost anyone in the bar easily and effortlessly. In fact, they will want to communicate with you. Those are the facts. To associate, befriend, and understand extremely hot women is the most important thing someone can do if they want to attract their dream woman - period.

Along those lines, if you are getting advice on how to please a woman who gets hit on constantly, do you think another woman (a model, who also happens to be intelligent, also with a degree from a top university, for example) will know more than a some guy in terms of what women want? Of course they will. There are women who are intelligent enough to be able to also explain that women do not want to be badgered daily. To say a woman who graduated from Stanford University, for example, is not intelligent enough to differentiate between the "lies" some women talk about when they explain what they want - compared to what REALLY attracts women is insane. Of course there are women who are intelligent enough to explain that.

Next, I want to present another scenario. You're reading Playboy or Maxim - which MILLIONS of guys do (because they would love to have the girls in the magazine jump out of the magazine, in many cases) and.. well.. a girl DOES jump out of the magazine. And she says to you: "I will give you all the advice you need when it comes to attracting and keeping a girl like me. I'm smart, I've done x, y and z in my life, and I know how to work with girls and I know what makes a guy REALLY different from the rest and I'm going to tell you all my secrets." You're telling me that at that point you are going to say... "no, sorry, go away I'm going to consult my trusty e-book on the subject?" Or, "I'm going to go talk to "eddie73736" from an online forum who one time winked at a Playboy model who almost looked back at him.. not interested" That is also insane, of course. =) This would be the most valuable information any guy could ever hope for and the truth is, it is the most valuable information in the world - period.

If you think intelligent, college educated women who have appeared in Playboy and Maxim, are models for a major agency like Elite or Wilhelmina, or have done other modeling, don't know more than almost any guy on earth in terms of what works when attracting women (very hot women at that), or forming a relationship with women, then you are, in fact, dead wrong. If you think they don't have any idea of the dynamics between men and women and the differences and what constitutes an attractive man, then that is also dead wrong. However, it is true that some women (and men) are not intelligent enough to tell the TRUTH on what really works. But, to say every woman does not know is crazy. And, all things being equal in intelligence when you have a Model who is honest and intelligent and some guy who pretends he is God's gift to women sitting next to each other giving advice on what women want.. well, who will you listen to?

It is possible - highly possible - that some guys have experience in this area. But, this is rare. This is very advanced stuff, and not for everyone, that is true. But, it can be USED and APPLIED by anyone.

And the guy who created this, he has in his life:

- gone from $0 to net worth of over $1M
- dated models associated with victoria's secret, maxim, fhm (now online mag only), playboy, and represented by major modeling agencies
- lives in a 5 star building on the ocean
- regularly communicates with extremely hot girls
- given zero chance by anyone he knew, he ended up improving himself physically to the point where he played football in front of crowds of 112,000 fans on national tv

He's in his 20s. He regularly admits he is a flawed human being, doesn't have all the answers, and can continue to improve and learn new things.

Also, the questions in the interviews with these women are designed to dig deep, and are from a guys perspective and are designed to get valuable information out of them to help guys that means something. Thats why the girls that are part of this are not only be extremely beautiful but intelligent, including some educated at some of the most prestigious universities in the world.

Sure, it could be worthless information to you. This stuff is VERY advanced. In fact, again, it is the most valuable information in the world and it won't always be free.

In fact, I'm going to delete these posts in 72 hours.

I'm not here to sell anything or debate. Whoever has interest, send me a PM now. If you need time to get a youtube video together, we'll talk about it via PM, no problem.

Take care!

 

[zekko]

Well, if the dude is worth over a million dollars, lives in a 5 star building on the ocean, and is in his twenties, yeah I imagine he would do well with the ladies, with pretty much whatever advice he used.

What Igetit! is trying to say, I think, is not the girls would lie, but rather what they say the want and what they are actually attracted to might be two different things. It's a pretty standard line around here: Don't listen to what a woman says, look at her behavior. For instance, if a girl says she doesn't care about money, but then runs off with the million dollar guy with the 5 star house on the ocean, are you going to believe what she says or what she does?

 

[Bluewater7]

I understand what you mean, but let me clarify:

The person who crafted the interviews went from NOTHING to those various accomplishments. It is not someone who was handed those things - meaning he is smart enough to get REAL information from the girls.

As I have seen the interviews I can tell you that the content is geared towards the AVERAGE guy as the questions were crafted in a way with the understanding that not everyone has 1) Money, 2) Looks or 3) Confidence.

And the girls, mind you, HAVE gone out with guys who did not have any of those at times. Or, have had or done certain things to "pick them up".

The information is focused towards helping EVERY guy get better and the credibility comes from the fact that these are the hottest girls in the world (who also in the case of the girls in the interviews are intelligent) and the person crafting the questions is intelligent enough to make the information valuable for anyone - no matter what their confidence level, money level, social status, etc.

I understand your point, but that is not the way the product is aimed. It is aimed at everyone to help everyone.

If you do not listen to what a woman says when she is TRYING TO HELP YOU GET BETTER and she happens to know the TRUTH about what women want, then you are just shooting yourself in the foot. They are SMART ENOUGH to know the difference between girls who lie and exhibit different behavior - and can guide you through that, obviously. It is not just surface level bull****, so to speak.

 

[Igetit!]

Hi Igetit,

I appreciate your response and I know you're an intelligent guy. However, you could not be further from reality on this one. I suppose it is possible that the majority of guys on this forum have dated the most beautiful girls in the world consistently, and they communicate with them in both friendly and romantic ways all the time. However, this is highly doubtful. And to say it wouldn't help to have their input is incorrect.

Well like I said before,I'd have to hear EXACTLY what the advice is the women would have to offer.

I really want to hear what these women would have to say.

I suppose it is possible for a woman to give a guy advice that could help him,but it's rare,very rare...I mean like Halley's Comet-once every 76 years rare.

Let me give you a few scenarios:

You walk into a bar or nightclub with two 10s. And these are 10s relative to where you are. Small-town Kentucky 10s are different than South Beach 10s - far different. And, also, these girls are nice to you, like you as a person, etc. The fact of the matter is that you become an INSTANT celebrity wherever you are.

Ok,I agree with you here.



I think if any guy walks into a bar/club with two 10s,he'd be somewhat of a celebrity. You're right.



Now here's MY question...


Why would I go out to a bar to meet women if I already have two 10s on my arms? A "10" is it,the ultimate,right? What else could I possibly find?


Why not just date one of the 10s I have with me?


Why use a "10" to get an 8 or a 9? Or even another 10?


What for?

Try it some time.

Umm...ok. Let me go outside and russle up two 10s right quick.

With just these girls as friends, you now have the ability to communicate with almost anyone in the bar easily and effortlessly. In fact, they will want to communicate with you. Those are the facts.

I agree with this. People will open up to you more.


However,there aren't too many guys out there who drag 10s around with them everytime that want to meet a girl.


That's just the way it is. And most guys would rather just date the 10 herself instead of dragging her around to try to get someone else.


Hey,if someone can get some 10s to help him with women,then fine,go for it,but we deal in reality here on THIS forum.


Most guys here probably have never even seen a 10 before.


I haven't. I've seen some close ones,but no 10s.

Along those lines, if you are getting advice on how to please a woman who gets hit on constantly, do you think another woman (a model, who also happens to be intelligent, also with a degree from a top university, for example) will know more than a some guy in terms of what women want? Of course they will. There are women who are intelligent enough to be able to also explain that women do not want to be badgered daily.

See the part I put in bold? We ALREADY KNOW THAT.


We already know hot women don't want to be constantly bothered.


That's why that act like b!tches sometimes when they get approached.



They're not really b!tches,they just act that way to deflect unwanted attention.


The female bank teller who was smiling and being polite to all the guys who were in her line during the day,would turn stuckup and snobbish if those same guys approached her at a bar later on that night.

To say a woman who graduated from Stanford University, for example, is not intelligent enough to differentiate between the "lies" some women talk about when they explain what they want - compared to what REALLY attracts women is insane.

No it's not.


You're comparing apples to oranges here.


Graduting from college and sexual attraction are two different things.


A woman could clearly explain the courses that took in college,and help to tutor someone.



But explaining her emotions,feelings,and sexual chemistry? Uhh...no my friend.


Even they themselves have a hard time trying to figure that one out,and it's thier own emotions.



You know why it's difficult for them? Well for one,their feelings keep changing.



Another thing is that society says for them to do one thing,but their feelings say something else. So they get in conflict.



They want to act out on their feelings,but society says they're slvts if they do. So they surpress what they truely want in order to be accepted,or indulge in their desires behind closed door so no one will know.

Next, I want to present another scenario. You're reading Playboy or Maxim - which MILLIONS of guys do (because they would love to have the girls in the magazine jump out of the magazine, in many cases) and.. well.. a girl DOES jump out of the magazine. And she says to you: "I will give you all the advice you need when it comes to attracting and keeping a girl like me. I'm smart, I've done x, y and z in my life, and I know how to work with girls and I know what makes a guy REALLY different from the rest and I'm going to tell you all my secrets." You're telling me that at that point you are going to say... "no, sorry, go away I'm going to consult my trusty e-book on the subject?" Or, "I'm going to go talk to "eddie73736" from an online forum who one time winked at a Playboy model who almost looked back at him.. not interested"

Like I said,I'd have to hear what all these "secrets" are first.

I can't help it. I seriusly,SEROIUSLY doubt these women will give any helpful advice,but I'll withhold judgement until I hear some of what they have to say.

However, it is true that some women (and men) are not intelligent enough to tell the TRUTH on what really works. But, to say every woman does not know is crazy.

Never said "every woman",but the majority of them,yes.


And Zekko had me right. I don't think that women intentionally,on purpose try to mislead guys...they just do.

And, all things being equal in intelligence when you have a Model who is honest and intelligent and some guy who pretends he is God's gift to women sitting next to each other giving advice on what women want.. well, who will you listen to?

Well to be honest,I wouldn't listen to the Model.



What I'd do is look at the behavior of the guys SHE'S ATTRACTED TO,and do what they do,REGUARDLESS of what she says.



Like you said,we're ALL flawed human beings. We can ALL improve.


No one knows everything.


So again I invite you to come back here and share a thing or two these women have to say.

 

[Bluewater7]

I am sharing that now, which is the reason for the post. See the first post.

But, I think we are just on different pages. I understand your points, however. But, they are founded on an incorrect premise.

In regards to the scenario, you would have 10s as friends to enter a bar. Because not all 10s may be interested in you as a boyfriend. And you may have a better chance befriending 10s... and then being more attractive to 8s in that bar who see you with the 10s.

Sure, going into a bar with a 10 that is into you may be better, however I am talking about getting to that point, and relating it back to the value of female perspective.

To say a woman is not capable of giving useful advice is insane. Period. Its not even a point worth arguing about. To say they are not smart enough to understand the difference between behavior that is different from words and saying they are not able to account for those differences within their advice makes no sense. Sure, they are capable of giving bad advice, but they are also capable of giving good advice - just like guys.

It is extremely naive to think that guys are the only people that can help you attract beautiful women, and that women do not TRULY know that there is a difference between behavior and their words. Have you ever actually attended a class at a University like Stanford? Trust me, there are a lot more complex concepts MANY females understand than the one you describe. It is absolutely wrong - what you describe.

You're trying to tell me a guy can tell you better what has worked to attract a specific woman, like an intelligent Playboy model, than that woman herself could tell you? Like the guy somehow could read her mind and recount the stories exactly without even knowing her? That is completely impossible.

You basing your argument on the fact that a female is not capable of giving advice is like going back in time to 1800. Again, its not worth arguing.

Also, am I to assume that you've dated many 10s or very hot models (FHM, Victoria's Secret Models, Maxim Models, Playboy Models, models represented by major agencies) who are also extremely intelligent?

So, what I mean is that these "techniques" based on the premise that "all women lie" and are "morons" and words CONSTANTLY differ from behavior... they've worked so well for you that you're constantly in contact with the hottest women in the world? And they give you the time of day, right?

I assume the answer to that is, of course, no. So, I think - to be honest - you aren't qualified to really determine WHAT WILL work with these type of females... as you have very limited experience.

To say that this has no merit is, in fact, ridiculous. Kind of like a poor person who has never been rich saying "all rich people are crooks". Without experience as a rich person - significant experience - there is no real way to know if that is true or if their ideas are valuable, etc.

Rather, I invite you to attain significant experience with 10s - REAL 10s in South Beach, Miami, in Medellin, Colombia, in Buenos Aires, Argentina - and THEN you come and tell ME if they have no meaningful advice and if they were not able to boost your social status with other women and men as well. I suspect, if you did that, you would forget all of your "techniques" completely because you would find that they would be useless. You'd be too busy with hot girls.

In any case, if you need the last word, you are welcome to it, as this is my last post for a while. If anyone else would like, feel free to PM (see the first post). I have to do far more than sit and debate a civil rights type issue.

BTW, igetit, I invite you to look at video clips of the fashion show of the W Hotel in South Beach last weekend open to the general public where Pherrel (spelling) performed that was filled with hot girls. We were in the thick of it. With friends who were hot (female)... and brought others to us. And we listen to them, we care about them. They are intelligent, and its a REAL relationship.

Also: 10 is relative. A 10 can be an 8 and vice-versa... the bottom line is that its a girl who is a "dream girl" to a guy and someone they would be "amazed" to be with.. but the same principles apply.. no matter if its a "true 10" or "10 in X person's eyes / 7 in reality" ... makes little difference all surroundings being equally scaled down to whatever location someone is in currently. Meaning, if you are dealing with hot girls anywhere - there generally are similar challenges. But, if you want advice on creating a Real Estate Empire would you want to listen to Donald Trump or the local developer? Both could have valuable advice, but here you are getting the "Trump" style advice which will still work at whatever location. Girls are human. It scales down.

 

[Prodigy746]

Bro if you knew anything about women you will know that what women say and what they actually prefer is two very different things.

Ask any women what they look for in a guy and they will say they are looking for a nice, honest, hardworking guy... Those same women are always with bad boys , complaining how guys are *******s and how they cant find a nice guy. These same women have nice guys trowing themselves at them but guess what they say about the nice guy trowing themselves at them... hes not my type or we dont have chemistry.

This proves that women dont know what they want, thats why most women say they want a nice hardworking guy but go out with jerks who treat them like crap and have a crappy job.

The thing that these women will tell you will NOT actually work on picking them up.

 

[Byezbozhniy]

To say a woman is not capable of giving useful advice is insane. Period. Its not even a point worth arguing about.

Bluewater, just saying it's not worth arguing about is an empty argument in itself. There clearly is an argument to be had here. I've learned a LOT from women, but very rarely by anything they say. Sure, I ask some of my female friends what they're attracted to and what they say always comes out like a rehearsed speech, because they're subconsciously coerced into giving an answer that meets the social expectation.

I'm going to make a parable.

When I started learning Russian I came across a lot of grammatical points that I'd never encountered before in my native languages. I asked some Russian people "why do you use the genitive case after this preposition." They tell me "because it's correct," "it just sounds right," "there's no rule, it's simply so," or better still, they try to rationalise it and get it wrong. The native speaker has never had to fully learn and examine his/her own language because it's already theirs.

I ask my English speaking teacher why we use the genitive case after a certain preposition and she can tell me in great detail why and when we use that case and a list of all other prepositions and scenarios where we use this case. Why? Because she's had to learn. She's had to pay attention. She's had to observe this language as an outsider.

Women don't need to understand their attraction. Of course, sometimes they're asked about it, and they try to rationalise it, and they get it wrong.

A guy will often have a better idea because he's studied objectively what works and doesn't work. For him it is necessary to understand the attraction.

Bluewater, your tone stinks of marketing. Of course, you'll say that this information is 'free' and 'for a limited time only,' in the hope that the people who get this free trial will be gullible enough to spread the word to other gullible people who'll pay vast amounts of money for misinformation. It's a growing industry. But dude, there are some well versed people here (albeit amongst a sea of gullible potential clients for you) who'll see right through this.

 

[L777]

Here's what helped me in the real world in fuvking hb 10's Don't need a video for this one.

1. GOOD LOOKS
2. MONEY
3. COCAINE
4. BEING THE GUY WHO HAS THE ......SO SHE CAN HAVE FUN*fill in the blank

Age: 32.

Wow

 

[zekko]

Bluewater, I certainly don't mean to disparage your product. I would certainly be interested in whatever the girls had to say, although I would take everything with a grain of salt.

The thing is, I think most of us here have had experiences with women giving advice about what they want, only to see them run after the exact opposite. Attraction is a funny thing, and we don't always go after what is good for us. I've been guilty of this at times myself, and I am a man. I know what I'm looking for in a women, but I have to admit there are times when I've felt a strong attraction for a woman who is completely different from those expectations. Women are more emotional than men, so this type of thing is much more common among females. If it's happened to me, how much moreso does it occur among women?

 

[Duffdog]

Age: 32.

Wow

When you turn 32, you will find out that this really was the key the whole time. As of now, you are too young to see it.

Bluewater:

I have been around the top models of the US as a photographer. I can tell you that some chic getting a degree does not necessarily mean that she is smart. It just means that she was able to pass standardized tests. Most of what you say is true, but for the wrong reasons. I will bet that the only reason that any of these girls hang around this millionaire guy is simply because of that, his millionaire status.

And as to your assertion that women are somehow able to formulate a cohesive argument which somehow explains attraction to men who otherwize are not attractive....psssssh whatever! I don't believe that in a million years.

Females are unable to compartmentalize the logical and emotional portions of their brain, making any advice that they might potentially offer tainted by their own self interests. Your assertion that "they are smart" has nothing to do with the fact that the guys to whom they are offering advise will never be attractive to them...unless they suddenly become attractive millionaires overnight.

The fact remains that 90% of the women are after 10% of the men...and only that 10%. The rest of the men are screwed and doomed to a life of average chics and being cheated on and used. This site is unique in that it forms a premise that "yes, the world is unfair, sorry", and offers to help men get into that elite 10%. Your assertion that you can take any loser and transform him into a chick magnet simply by offering some "advise" is fraudulent at best.

loser guy with no game = no chics
loser guy with good game = no chics
hot guy with no game = avg chics
hot guy with good game = hot chics

 

[Igetit!]

Bluewater:

I have been around the top models of the US as a photographer. I can tell you that some chic getting a degree does not necessarily mean that she is smart. It just means that she was able to pass standardized tests.

Agreed.


All I was saying is that a woman graduating from college with a degree may mean she's smart and intelligent,but that intelligence DOES TRANSLATE into the sexual arena.


Women are emotional. They are attracted to men based on how a man MAKES THEM FEEL.



The majority of woman can't tell you want it is about a guy that "turns them on"



THEY KNOW when they're turned on,and THEY KNOW when they're not,but as for describing /putting into words the thing that's present when they feel chemistry,and the thing that's missing when they don't,90% of women can't do that.



I once dated this girl who told me when we were talking on the phone one time,"You make me happy".



She said that to me. So I said to her...


"Well,what is it I'm doing that makes you happy? I want you to be happy,so if you can tell me what it is,I'll keep doing it".




You know what she said? Nothing. She didn't say anything. She couldn't explain it.


All she knew was that she felt good when she was around me.

I will bet that the only reason that any of these girls hang around this millionaire guy is simply because of that, his millionaire status.

Agreed.

Let him lose all his money,then let's see how many 10s keep haning around him.

And as to your assertion that women are somehow able to formulate a cohesive argument which somehow explains attraction to men who otherwize are not attractive....psssssh whatever! I don't believe that in a million years.

I don't believe it either.


The OP thinks that just because a woman is smart when it comes to academics that the same intelligence she uses there can be applied to explaining the sexual chemistry she feels when she's attracted to a man.


Bluewater7,you have NO IDEA how much I wish this were true.




The difference is that with college courses,the information NEVER CHANGES.


You can explain algebra to me now,then an hour later,all then mechanics still apply. It's the same always.


The rules of algebra work the same FOR EVERYBODY.



It doesn't matter it you're 6 foot 2.or 5 foot 3,the rules don't change.


You can be a millionaire,or making minimum wage,the rules are the same reguardless.



You can be 20 or 65,the rules are the same.



With algebra and ALL other college courses,the theories and laws apply to everyone EQUALLY.




So yeah,a women would easily be able to explain and teach whatever subject she got her degree in,because whatever that subject was,the rules,mechanics,and laws that govern it don't change.



But as for explaining sexual attraction,which is a feeling she gets?


Uhh..no.


Feelings change. She can be feeling attraction towards one guy one minute,then he can say something that he thinks is innocent,then BAM,she lost interest.



She can be attracted to a guy she thinks is a millionaire,then when she finds out he's broke,bam,all the attraction goes out the window.



Attraction fluxuates. Academic laws don't.



Let's say she gave some instructions to a guy,but instead of him going out and using what he's just learn on a woman,he uses it on the woman herself,the one that gave him the instructions.



You think she's be attracted? I doubt it.



I'll say this again:I'll be open to hearing what these women have to say.


For once,I put aside my preconceived notions about women giving men advice,and be open to what they say.





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[Solomon]

Interesting thread right now I can't contribute, I gotta read this when I got time to digest this mentally

deuces

 

[nismo-4]

@ Igetit!: You Rock! 'Nuff said! :rockon:

@ trent81: Here again, I can't f**k with the cocaine, but you're right otherwise. That's just me. Money and looks FTW!

@ Duffdog: Blunt and spares nobody's feelings as always. But being right as hell is always good! I learned most of what I know from you!

@ the OP: I need to wake your ass up!

Seriously, the women that give dating advice are wary of the game. They'll give you "advice" then go back to the abusive boyfriend. Women don't know what the f*k they want in a man or what got them wet in the first place.

Yeah, if you learn some PUA tactics, you may get lucky every once in a while and end up with a 10/ model/ etc. but it won't be consistent.

You're still likely to get cheated on or used unless you're in the elite top 10% of men. If you're not, you've got a lot of competition.

You may have looks, but there is always the nerd and the ugly guy with mad million$! Once he competes with you, you will be friendzoned. All hopes of "you and her happily ever after" will vanish like a bubble on a needle. The girl don't care if the millionaire looks like Screech or Urkel! The girl don't care if the millionaire got a face that was lit on fire and put out with a track cleat!

Case and point, look at "the rich jerk" on Youtube. BTW that stuff is a scam. But observe the fact he got pretty blondes in his mansion and a Lambo. His face is none for a prince charming to have, but when you got money like that, you can have blondes living with you like crazy!

The more money and looks you have, the more quality women you'll have available to you and the better your chances are of keeping them.

Remember that game and tactics are no match for a 6-pack body and a Mercedes with 3 million bucks in the trunk.

I wish men would stop being f**king delusional and wake up to reality dammit! If you ain't got millions and or good looks, you'll have to get average women or women who cheat/ use your ass! PUA's are paid to hide the fact that looks + money will get you the best of women as well as give you choosing power. Using the PUA tactics will get you further than what you can naturally get, but you gotta make the attraction process move.

Understand that the attraction process is like a snowball on a snowy mountain. If you got fame, fortune, and looks, that snowball will roll down fast and builds up big, fast! You'll get a lot of love and then some (the 10's friends, MILF, etc.) crushing the competition in the process. If you don't, you'll have to push that snowball uphill. It slowly builds up, you'll get worn out, and if you stop pushing, you'll get crushed and left out in the cold. They will you have the strength to start again? If you somehow get high, there will be forces up there (THIS IS THE ELITE 10% FOLKS!)to knock you down. Fast and hard too!

Men need to stop living in this f**king dream world where PUA moves alone (key word) get 10's. Mystery can get them cuz he got $$$$$! F**k! That's why I'm working on getting mad millions!

Guys who want to pull 10's consistently and keep them need to work on being in the f**king elite 10%!How do you do this? You have 3 options! Pick one and run with it!

1. Get mega rich
2. Get mega attractive
3. Get mega famous

If you don't, you've got an uphill battle. And that selling of advice from 10's and models is futile at best. Point restated:

The guy who created this:
1. Went from $0 to net worth of over $1M

Instant attraction FTW!

2. Dated models associated with victoria's secret, maxim, fhm (now online mag only), playboy, and represented by major modeling agencies

When you got millions, this is doable on a regular basis.

3. Lives in a 5 star building on the ocean

Beware of tides, oh wait, he's got a great place to bring these women to get laid? Instant attraction supercharged!

4. Regularly communicates with extremely hot girls

When you got #1 & #3, you can do this and CONSISTENTLY DATE + KEEP THESE GIRLS IF YOU DESIRE! If you don't, you'll catch the lines of "Let's just be friends," "I have a bf," "I'm not looking for a relationship right now," etc.

5. given zero chance by anyone he knew, he ended up improving himself physically to the point where he played football in front of crowds of 112,000 fans on national tv

I give this dude a gold star for that. His attraction went WAY UP cuz of his looks to go along with his fame and fortune!

6. He's in his 20s. He regularly admits he is a flawed human being, doesn't have all the answers, and can continue to improve and learn new things.

He's got plenty of time to bed hot women! BTW nobody's perfect.

Read between the lines.

Caveat Emptor.

 

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