Attitude problem or me?

[TTAG]

hey DJs,

i have posted about something similar before, but here goes again. i keep on going out to uni events, bars, clubs etc. and i really have this problem!

this happened to me againthis past weekend many times. half of the girls i approach, have an attitude problem, and they are so up themselves! or its me? i dunno.

even if they are not that pretty, for example there was a HB5 three days ago at this club, i was sitting down on the lounge and she comes with her friend HB6 so i strike up some convo, they act all weird like im worse than dirt or something.

then i bumped into them on the dance floor later, and she grabs her friend and walks off. so i get the message.

i ended up seeing them again on the dance floor and the same thing happens. so i was chillin with mates bustin moves and they dont realise im there, then they see and tell me to get lost and leave them alone, im like what the fvck? i was dancin here u get lost, then they start whining about how im harrassing them and they push me, so im like right, im not taking this just cos they have cvnts! so i stand taller and tell them where to go- outta my sight! they get scared and run off, and it ends that quite a few people around saw what happen and i come off as the bad guy?

maybe you DJs or the Sydney Crew can tell me what im doing that is so bad?

 

[confus4ever]

F@uck those B$tches

 

[wolfie]

shyt man, from what I saw of you in action I don't see that there's anything wrong with what you do. The approaches I saw you do when we went out seemed just fine to me.. IMO I think the negative reaction is a reflection on the chicks u approach (i.e they're bytches/have bytch shields/are antisocial and aren't used to being approached).

Can you give me an example of what you actually said btw?

 

[squirrels]

It depends. Once in a while you'll run into a girl who's just mad at men and you happen to be the nearest guy. (possibly just broke up with her boyfriend or some bullsh!t)

Best thing to do there is just walk away. In my experience, if you try to persist or call her out, she'll make a scene, and then every pu$$y-desperate AFC in the building will want to kick your ass and be her 'hero'.

Now if it happens all the time, maybe it IS something wrong with you.

 

[Reto]

It dawned on me the other day that there is such a thing as negative IL. I mean if a HB has a boyfriend or is married, she won't even give you the time of day, much less be receptive to any C & F. It's a sure sign to stay the he!! away...

yeah, F@uck those B$tches !!!!!!!!

 

[TTAG]

Originally posted by confus4ever
F@uck those B$tches

thats exactly what i wanna do, bend them over and fvck those bytches doggy style, like the dogs they are!

 

[TTAG]

thanks for replying DJs.

hey wolfie,

in this case, like most, i dont say much. something about the night, why are you here -birthday, chilling, girls night out? etc.

then, oh cool. having fun? bla bla, im TTAG whats your name?

after this ill go off and look for more pvssy, and do the same. i do this so i can come back to them later IF im still interested and number close. (thinkin about doin this sooner cos sometimes i cant find them later).

but its all light and easy chat.

i dunno what im doing wrong, but it must be me cause it happens too much. in any given night out ill approach at least 5-6 girls. 2 will react like these bytches, and at least 1 wants to start a fight with me?

true, true squirrels.

hahahahahahaha.....that is so funny because its so true! pu$$y-desperate AFC always want to start shyt with me.

even on the night out with Sydney Crew it happened to me. DonJohn u were right next to me and i told you about it?

you're right Reto

but persistence also pays off, that same night (4 days ago), one girl was sitting by herself and giving me short one word answers, but i persisted, and we had a good chat, she even hugged me when i said im gonna go chill with my friends.

ahhhh man.

 

[wolfie]

ah fuk them bro.. sounds like you're just approaching *****es or girls who had a bad day... unless you're full on staring at their bodies while you approach The chicks I saw you approach when we were out together didnt seem to react badly at all to you.

Also, you might want to try modifying your body language.. i.e if you're casually opening them with a 'hey, what are u here for'... try walking past and then stopping side on, head turned towards em.. as if you just walked past and noticed em, instead of walking right up to em and facing em (less confrontational)

As they become more conversational, turn your shoulders towards em more, and then finally the rest of your body, but if they seem boring or unfriendly, start looking away, turning away from them etc, making it look like you're about to leave or have
something better you could be doing than talking to them.

Ultimately I think this kind of body language serves a number of purposes:

1. More casual and spontaneous and less confrontational/needy

2. You can safely escalate or eject as you want, with less drama. If they shoot you down, you're already not facing them directly. You can just turn your head and keep walking in the direction you were going (as if they were just a moments distraction). Much better than getting blown out, having to turn around and walk away.

3. Makes them feel like they're 'earning' your attention with their positive responses... and if they react negatively, makes you look like you have something better to do (as you're turning away etc, threatening to leave)

 

[MVPlaya]

I can't tell whose problem it is but usually its the women's if you have moderate game. Other than that, I wouldn't have gone Hitler on their asses. If you get to that stage just look at them with complete apathy and ignore them or say to them something along the lines of "Look, I don't care about you. I'm here to have a good time." You don't ever want to act like that because you can get bounced and you can look REAL bad, I'm sure there were plenty of chicks after that who thought you were a freak. You gotta keep image in mind, man.

 

[Austin Allegro]

Don't worry about it, just next em.

Don't know about Australia but in the UK a lot of uni girls are a just a bit scared of men and the big bad world in general, but dress this up with a load manhating feminist bullsh*t.

Just politely ignore them.

 

[xblitz44x]

"half of the girls i approach, have an attitude problem, and they are so up themselves! or its me?"

Don't know, and I can't say for sure. But it doesn't matter. That is what's going through THEIR mind and it's no use trying to change it. At best you MAY be able to dissolve a few perceptions and show them that you really are a good guy. It will never compell the desire to fvck you though, so don't bother.

The report that you just posted is about the same group of girls. They are most likely immature, and there for the attention of having guys hit on them. Don't worry about them. They have their own issues to iron out. Move on to the next group and I promise you, as long as you're portraying yourself in a non-threatening manner, you'll find girls that would AT LEAST enjoy a conversation with you. Keep a positive mind-frame to yield positive results.