Asperger's Syndrome: advice and a request for help

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Oh, and one more thing. Be sure to read plenty of Pook and other posters with similiar views. Asperger's Syndrome turns you into a gigantic wuss. A woman if you will. Learn to be a man and everything else is easy.
 

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Blink said:
I at one time self-diagnosed myself with AS because I fit the description so well. I think that, specifically, is the biggest barrier holding you and others back. Asperger's Syndrome is disputed by many professionals in the field. We can't even be sure it actually exists. Are there people that suffer from these symptoms? Yes. Is it some disease that will always hinder you and make a mess of your life? I certainly don't believe that, but others might.

When you have been diagnosed with something like AS, you begin to accept that all these problems you have are justified because you have this disease and it gives you an excuse to not deal with them (not the original poster, obviously he has been tireless in dealing with his problems, but people in general). The OP for instance said he had no life at all until 11th grade. Is there any question why you have don't have social skills and don't relate to people? You skipped CRUCIAL parts of your development throughout adolesence and late in your childhood where true social/people skills are developed. THAT is the problem, not some disease.

Like I mentioned early in the post, I too once thought of myself as having this "disease". The first step is to totally dismiss it, and man up and take control of your life and your mind. Reading these here forums helps more than anything and helps give you a clear picture of what your life should really be like. When you talk to people, don't sit there and plan on what you're going to say next. Just listen and respond, trust yourself to do it. That little voice in your head that helps you plan how you are going to respond to situations that you are nervous about, that is always pondering what others are thinking about you, that is always thinking you don't know what is going and you need to think through over and over whatever it is you're doing or what you're about say? Yeah, you know who I'm talking about. Kick that fvcker to the curb, because that is not normal.

The hardest thing for people in this situation is to rely on their instincts, because they honestly feel and believe that they don't have any. Trust me, you do. If you are motivated enough, you can change. Quit thinking and just DO whatever it is you're doing. Your social skills may be crap if you were a hermit throughout adolesence, but you learned a lot in your childhood and you've just forgotten. Once you get back on that horse of life, you'd be surprised how much will come back to you that you were sure you never learned or never COULD learn.
Asperger's is not a disease or disorder, but a different way of thinking. Some of the greatest writer, musicians, scientist, entrepreneurs, etc had AS. Now that we have a pretty good understanding the diagnostic criteria we can go back and look for those behaviors in people.

Monkeegutz, stay away from asperger's support boards like wrongplanet. these will make you feel like you are a victim and should wallow in your self pity.

Here is a wikipedia article on famous possible autistic spectrum people: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_speculated_to_have_been_autistic

Also, Bill Gates has been speculated to have AS. It must be a great disease because it made a person the richest man in the world.
 

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mastersylar said:
Asperger's is not a disease or disorder, but a different way of thinking. Some of the greatest writer, musicians, scientist, entrepreneurs, etc had AS. Now that we have a pretty good understanding the diagnostic criteria we can go back and look for those behaviors in people.

Monkeegutz, stay away from asperger's support boards like wrongplanet. these will make you feel like you are a victim and should wallow in your self pity.

Here is a wikipedia article on famous possible autistic spectrum people: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_speculated_to_have_been_autistic

Also, Bill Gates has been speculated to have AS. It must be a great disease because it made a person the richest man in the world.
it is not a disease, it is a condition that manifests itself in many forms. To me, it identifies the stereotypical scientist who is unable to cope with people, but has excellent aptitude at all things numbers. While I don't personally know many scientists like this, it seems that most often, the more " hardcore " scientists lean closer towards the AS side of the spectrum than the rest of society. One could also argue that athletes boarder on this obsessive attitude as well.
 

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Nighthawk said:
If you told most chicks you had a mental thing that meant you couldn't recognize people they would probably think it's sexy like in Memento and see if they could 'cure' you.
oooh man I completely forgot to say this! I've found out that if you mention to a chick (well a nice one at least) that you have alot of trouble recognizing people, they make SURE that you notice them! works like a charm!

Blink said:
I at one time self-diagnosed myself with AS because I fit the description so well. I think that, specifically, is the biggest barrier holding you and others back. Asperger's Syndrome is disputed by many professionals in the field. We can't even be sure it actually exists. Are there people that suffer from these symptoms? Yes. Is it some disease that will always hinder you and make a mess of your life? I certainly don't believe that, but others might.
I have to aggree with you on one point here. There are definately two kinds of people with Asperger's syndrome: the people who use it as an excuse, and the people who overcome it. Clearly, anyone who is working in these forums is part of the latter.
Blink said:
That little voice in your head that helps you plan how you are going to respond to situations that you are nervous about, that is always pondering what others are thinking about you, that is always thinking you don't know what is going and you need to think through over and over whatever it is you're doing or what you're about say? Yeah, you know who I'm talking about.
Nope, wouldn't know him...he died, oh, about two years ago?

The fact of the matter, is that not only is there no reason to be stressed or nervous about a situation, but its completely unacceptable. Imagine that you turn whatever interaction into a complete ****up. Guess what? You'll never see that girl again. It really just dosent matter. Move along to the next one. After all, just like Thomas Edison said, "I have not failed 1,000 times. I have
successfully discovered 1,000 ways how NOT to make a light bulb."

mastersylar said:
Monkeegutz, stay away from asperger's support boards like wrongplanet. these will make you feel like you are a victim and should wallow in your self pity.
oh my god, I visited that board once a couple of months ago. Whining *****es made me want to punch a baby... god what a bunch of loosers. "waaaah I have AS and i cant do ****.... waaaaaaaaaaaaah *cry*"

synergy1 said:
it is not a disease, it is a condition that manifests itself in many forms. To me, it identifies the stereotypical scientist who is unable to cope with people, but has excellent aptitude at all things numbers. While I don't personally know many scientists like this, it seems that most often, the more " hardcore " scientists lean closer towards the AS side of the spectrum than the rest of society. One could also argue that athletes boarder on this obsessive attitude as well.
right you are. Now the only question is, are they scientests because theyre AS, or AS because they're scientists.... food for thought ;)
 
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