Askmen's Top 10 Cruel Things Women Do To Men

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“I want you to post a reply and tell me that is makes SENSE to condemn an entire GENDER based on acts above that some of the members do instead of individuals of that gender that's doing them”?

What you call gender hate is simply men discusing social dynamics.
I don’t see any guys condemning the whole female gender here, in this thread at all, if anything you have twisted the thread to be about gender hate, when it is simply about social dynamics.

I think the article is great because it illustrates what to look out for and men, i.e who this forum is directed at, can work out solutions to those problems. Better to be armed with knowledge then get burned through ignorance.

And that’s the thing, it seems your trying to stem the flow of knowledge if it has even a whiff of being derogatory to the female species, even if it is valid and could benefit men in knowing that knowledge.



“The point was that you can't stereotype a gender”.


And the point back to you my friend, is the fact that no one has yet in this thread stereotype the female gender has a whole, on the contrary you have assumed people have and then spread your scorn for us all to read, even though it has zero justification for it, very much like a feminist would do, do you not see?

“I'm not the problem, the problem is that this forum is turning into a place where there's ONLY ONE ACCEPTED WAY TO BELIEVE, and all other forms of thought are scorned and unwelcomed”.


I think me and you are reading a difference forum, but then again, for you to assume a thread like this is gender hate, then it is not hard to understand where your coming from with that statement.

Yes there are elements of women hate, but you have to remember a lot of guys who come here are recovering ‘Nice guys’, guys who have done the ‘so called right things’ and got burned, sometimes they want a release, sometimes they want to acknowledge that they are not alone and sometimes, when they are ready, they move on. But each one learns from the experience, if it was up to you, it seems guys would make zero progress and assume all women are dainty little flowers that don’t cause any problems.

Well social dynamics is about learning all sides of the spectrum and personally I am on the side of learning about women, warts and all, so a MAN can make the right decision when it comes to such things like ‘marriage’, hence he choose, only after, becoming aware of what women are, rather than be shamed into conforming to some social stereotype.

You speak a lot of sense message boy, but sometimes you seem a little fanatical in jumping to a women’s defence. That is the only point I wanted to address.
 

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Message boy should change his/her name to message chic. YOU are never wrong,emotional,take things out of context and try to twist the argument into something you can win. I've dated several women like that-not long though. Don't keep any men like that as friends.


This site is about teaching men something they don't learn in the rest of the world-the good,the bad and the ugly-and how to tell them apart. They can learn it here, or have it happen to them in life. We are trying to educate them the easy way-what you learn through experience is painful and costly. IF you want to spend time here, don't tell us the same things the matrix is telling us and then expect us to "appreciate" your wisdom[just like an ex-facebook friend who plugged up my wall with Tony Robbins sayings until I deleted him-I've read all those books and don't need to hear it again,we've heard all your stuff from women].
 

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jonwon said:
One of the best solutions is to have more than one girl as an option, acquiring many numbers a night is the best thing to do, if at all possible. That way when this happens, and it will, you will have other girls to fall back on. Statistically your chances only improve the more options you create for yourself.


I don't know how you guys do this. I simply don't have the patience or desire to talk up girls nonstop.

This even happens to me with my online profile where i rack up a bunch of emails and phone numbers and women who want to go out but i simply don't know how or want to handle 5 women all vying for my attention at the same time. I just end up letting most vanish. I think about what to do with them and just go oh hell i don't know and don't bother.

"Other girls to fall back on" are usually the ones i don't want so much anyway otherwise i would've been calling those ones first before the one ignoring my calls. So really, it's not much of a great option. If i'm really craving pizza and the pizza place is closed then eating a can of peas, though i like peas but don't love them, isn't the greatest of options and doesn't kill my craving.

It's exhausting and stressful keeping up with several.




I think the best option is to sack up and have some willpower and dump a chick regardless if you have a backup or not. Being alone is just dandy.
 
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www.loveshack.org

^^^^

JoPhil OMG! I've never heard of this forum, I just went there and idk, it seems like it's more my style! :D

I'm going to register over there, I kinda like doing blog-like journals on things going on in the world.

I think I like this Loveshack forum better then this one. Not to be funny, but I'm serious!

I don't think this forum is the right one for me, too much bitterness and negativity.
 

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The Message Boy said:
www.loveshack.org

I don't think this forum is the right one for me, too much bitterness and negativity.
Checked out since I had to see how bad it was by the way guys here talked about it. They were right. It's just bitter women complaining about men.
 

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The Message Boy said:
www.loveshack.org

^^^^

JoPhil OMG! I've never heard of this forum, I just went there and idk, it seems like it's more my style! :D

I'm going to register over there, I kinda like doing blog-like journals on things going on in the world.

I think I like this Loveshack forum better then this one. Not to be funny, but I'm serious!

I don't think this forum is the right one for me, too much bitterness and negativity.
I am always pleased to assist.
You are right. LS is your kind of place.
Give my warmest regards to TBF ( she is the resident wannabe momma feminista )
 

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mrRuckus said:
I don't know how you guys do this. I simply don't have the patience or desire to talk up girls nonstop.

This even happens to me with my online profile where i rack up a bunch of emails and phone numbers and women who want to go out but i simply don't know how or want to handle 5 women all vying for my attention at the same time. I just end up letting most vanish. I think about what to do with them and just go oh hell i don't know and don't bother.

"Other girls to fall back on" are usually the ones i don't want so much anyway otherwise i would've been calling those ones first before the one ignoring my calls. So really, it's not much of a great option. If i'm really craving pizza and the pizza place is closed then eating a can of peas, though i like peas but don't love them, isn't the greatest of options and doesn't kill my craving.

It's exhausting and stressful keeping up with several.




I think the best option is to sack up and have some willpower and dump a chick regardless if you have a backup or not. Being alone is just dandy.
It's not really about going out and sarging all time 24/7, its more about keeping your options open and not putting all your eggs in one basket just because a girl happens to be dating you.

Hence I am a firm believer in dating more than one girl, a good few in fact. That way eventually you get to choose the best one.

Some guys will date one girl for a week or a month, along comes another one, my suggestion is to date them both, why not?

But if your exclusive to a girl and after a prolonged time she shows her worth, then no reason to keep her and just her.

There is nothing wrong with having just one GF, but odds are only improved if you can managed to juggle more than one, if you can juggle 2, 3 or 4 (depending on free time too) your odds of having a better time with one of them in the long haul is improved, when your filter down your harem and choose the best one to go it alone with.

Or simply keep having loads on the go.

It's not about going out there and catering to a set of rule structures some PUA has dreamt up whilst out in the field, it's about getting the best options, even if it takes a week a month or a few months for girls to drift in and out.

After all I believe also you won’t really know a person, until a set of time has elapsed.

I know many guys who date the one girl, simply because she was willing to date the guy and not look elsewhere, only to find out 6 to 12 months later, they were not compatible and 8 out of ten times its the girl who is the one who does the dumping.

On the other hand I know guys, like myself included who or have dated a few chicks at once and choose the best out of the bunch when it is time to knock it up a level.

Most guys simply settle for the girl, I say settle only when she has proved her worth, and that is against a backdrop of other girls on the scene too.

No it's not easy, but it's not impossible either.

And yes it is exhausting to keep up with more then one, but also fun too. As for dumping chicks, that's part of it too, spinning those plates and letting some drop to the floor unless your motivated to keep spinning them, which is the point.

Too many guys are about having relationships, I say a guy should only be thinking about a relationship if the girl he is dating is worthy of one. normally average guys put the cart before the horse.
 

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The Message Boy said:
www.loveshack.org

^^^^

JoPhil OMG! I've never heard of this forum, I just went there and idk, it seems like it's more my style! :D

I'm going to register over there, I kinda like doing blog-like journals on things going on in the world.

I think I like this Loveshack forum better then this one. Not to be funny, but I'm serious!

I don't think this forum is the right one for me, too much bitterness and negativity.
I hate to say it, but don't let the door hit you man. While I agree there is too much complacency and some over the top bitterness here, loveshack is gonna set you back (if you are a guy, I can't imagine any guy being so happy to go to loveshack). But good luck if that's what you want. I think its a mistake. AFC and manginaville over there. You need a good six months on zenmack with supreme to toughen you up.
 
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DonS says,

Message Biitch, I mean Boy, is just another alias of the feminist woman who Warrior busted a couple months ago posting under multiple aliases. I forget her name but she was the "dating coach" who was trolling for customers.

She is still embarrassed over how easily and completely Warrior tooled her that she is now left randomly lashing out. "oh, no, you like loveshack more than us? oh, no, please to leave us and register over there." God.

Nothing worse than a bitter 45 year old woman whos only foundation in life is astrology.
Dude shut your mouth. This entire forum is going to the pits, from being here just a couple of weeks, I can already tell it's already there.

1.) It's COOL now on this forum to rant and vent all day instead of posting field results.

2.) It's COOL now on this forum to talk MORE about how women suck instead of how many are sucking you.

3.) It's COOL now on this forum to follow idealogy after idealogy, and "Gurus" that give you 100 Reasons to not marry, or 100 Reasons to never trust a woman, or 100 Reasons to (insert bull**** here)

4.) It's COOL now on this forum to post 75 rant threads or 75 venting threads about women, with no god damn mix of positive threads or even a god damn field report with you even TRYING to speak to a woman.

You guys welcome NO alternative viewpoints to your RANTS. You guys welcome no alternative discussion topics to your IDEALOGIES. Let a guy post a reply saying your rants are stupid, you'll paint him with the "feminist" brush in 5 minutes

You sit on a computer all day (behind a computer screen) and you talk **** about women that will make your mother crudge and you call yourselves REAL MEN, I call your bluff!

A REAL MAN doesn't hide behind a computer talking **** about women for 12 hours a day. If you believe so much in "Nexting" then why not just "NEXT" the chick giving you problems and move on?

You are cowards, blowhards, and LOVESHACK not only has more members but is MUCH more respected.

If Sosuave was so "respected" so "great" so "valuable", why in the hell are MOST of you guys known as keyboard jockeys? And nerds? Why do they call this place "So Symp"?

Tell me, how in the HELL can you be a member of this forum for nearly a DECADE, yet have posted hardly NO interactions you have had with a woman? I can name a NUMBER of you guys that responded just in this thread that if I searched under your name it shows hardly NO ****ing interactions you have had with a woman, yet, YOU are the ****ing Guru! YOU are spitting out idealogy! YOU are talking about someone's a mangina?! DO YOU even ****ing TALK to women??

This site is NOTHING like it used to be. Post a field report on here and you gets guys questioning "how can you talk to so many women so fast?" "What are you trying to prove by talking to so many women?" Think I'm lying, go check out my threads and review the responses. Just total bull****.

NO one wants to sit around and discuss or read your NEGATIVE RANTS everyday. NO ONE. And you got the nerve to call someone a "mangina" yet you ***** like you are on a period?

If there's "manginas" at Loveshack, just what in the **** do you call yourselves? If Loveshack is filled with "manginas" then Sosuave isn't far from the queer house with all of the WHINY, RANTING, *****ING threads on here about how "American Women" are so KICKING YOUR ASS!

Sissies. :cheer:

How's that for a RANT? :D
 

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Asasione said:
Message boys rant was on point. I thought he was pvssy whipped but he's got a pair. Too many theories and guys ain't doing ACTION, guys with 1000+ posts still cnt talk to girls but start a debate and they'l display their mental prowess. Everyone should read Jon024 log that's more of what we need to get the KJs convinced the advice offered can work.
Ya. Too bad he kept whining about it. I mean if you don't agree with someone you aren't gonna change their mind by arguing about it over and over. You can rant all day, but at the end of the day if you know what's right for you, its no point in arguing. Unless you just like arguing for arguing sake. Which I think he does.

I actually spent the day over at loveshack to get a feel for the place and I don't see how anyone could grow in that environment. It's even worse than here. The noise to signal ratio is through the roof. At least here there are definate schools of thought to learn from and bootcamps to do. You can always ignore those who aren't moving in your same direction.

I still think Player Supreme has the formula. A closed site, heavily moderated, with a focus on one particular goal. That is the best way to learn and to keep a culture of action going. When you let the whole world in, it gets blurry quick.

You wouldn't go to a karate class where everyone off the street could come to the head of the class and tell you how to throw a punch, or why throwing punches is lame, or why you should use kicks or take downs instead of punches. You just need to learn how to throw a damn punch and then learn the next thing and then put them all together in your arsenal.
 
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