asked a REAL player what the secret is

[chad2k5]

one of my friends who has had a lot of hot girlfriends said "talk to hot girls like they're anybody else. act completely normal around them. they're not used to it"

but that seems to be different from the theme here of being ****y and trying to prove to the girl you're the prize.

My friend knows his stuff, but there's good advice here too.

What should I do?

 

[DJDanny]

I think you just answered your own question there. C&F should be you all the time not pursuing a HB. If you're only C&F around hot chicks you're never going to come off as sincere while doing it and it'll seem forced aka not natural.

Who is going to seem completely normal, the guy who is joking with his buddys when he opens a chick with C&F material or the guy whose sitting there quietly then suddenly starts neging a chick?

 

[Snowman23]

If you have a good example of a real player in your life, I suggest you take advantage of it. This is an internet forum. Half the guys here don't get girls dude.

 

[Daddy The Pimp]

Yea its true that most of the guys here don't get girls.

But you should also keep in mind that real players don't actually know how they are doing it. Its just the way that they are that attracts women. Its not about techniques. This is why you should learn from the first hand experience. This is why you should go out and try and find out whats congruent with you and use that.

 

[zekko]

one of my friends who has had a lot of hot girlfriends said "talk to hot girls like they're anybody else. act completely normal around them. they're not used to it"

This makes a lot of sense to me, I'd say it's good advice. Easier said than done, of course.

In some respects, C&F is very consistent with the above advice. If you're around your friends and you're relaxed, you play around and bust on them, don't you? If you can do this with the girls it shows you are relaxed around them, not intimidated by their beauty, and are treating them like they're anyone else.

 

[I.A.F.Y.B.]

Your friend basicly gave you the answer. Once you are use to being around people and social settings... The more comfortable you are around them. Then, the less you are trying and thinking. The more confident and secure you will start you feel. Its real in the field so, get out that and learn.

 

[guywhoneedshelp]

Well if you are a cool guy with a lot going for you, then you can basically assume that girls want you. As that becomes more of a reality you will find yourself just being yourself, once yourself is what girls want.

Bottom line, focus on being the sex-worthy guy, and force yourself to be more charming and talkative so girls can get to see the sex-worthiness.

 

[synergy1]

The act normal thing is great advice, but hard in practice to follow. Its easy to get caught up in the presence of a hot chick. Most guys turn into sycophantic suck ups and it makes me sick watching them. Getting the confidence to just be normal but still trying to hit on hot girls actually took me a long time, but it gets easier with a lot of trial and error. The easiest way to progress is knowing that you can move on from a bad girl or two and eventually meet one down the line.

yes, most of the guys on this forum can parrot C&F, but the few who practice it know its not easy. Being a good conversationalist, and enlisting attention take work. Take advantage of your friend, and learn what he does. A lot of people would prefer to fail using their own way over and over, but if you observe your friend and integrate it into how you socialize, I bet you'll see good results.

 

[Ziniath]

It sounds like your friend really has his **** together, and whatever he's doing is working for him.

He's giving you advice because you asked for it, OR you clearly look like you need it.

Something that has personally helped me in the past is going a little outside of my comfort zone and really hanging out with my player mates when they're doing their stuff with the ladies. It's amazing how much I absorbed from my mates purely via osmosis.

This worked a lot more effectively for me than hanging out on forums analysing all different types of advice (most of it conflicting anyway: it's all good advice to the right person, conflicting or not).

At least when I was hanging with my player mates in social situations I kinda had to rise to the expectation of being able to roll at their level, but MOST importantly, I was actually IN the field, not typing about it.

By handing out with your player mates guys, you can find out who YOU are in that situation: be being both participant and observer (OBSERVER, not analyser).

It worked for me, it's possible it could work for you too.

 

[Negative_Nancy]

funny how certain guys get this, yet other keep pushing Bullsh1t techniques and all this crap making women seem like these crazy alien people from another world when in fact they are just people like anyone else

really it's no special magic technique or anything, just freakin get off your ass and talk!

 

[londonzen]

its true theres an older women(30ish) proper gold digger(does modeling) type at work

shes obviouly used to guys drooling over her and can be quite abrupt towards them.

when i talk to her i give off a non bothered (ohh your a preety lady) as if i didnt notice she seems to have alot of time for me

 

[C-quenced]

It sounds like your friend really has his **** together, and whatever he's doing is working for him.

He's giving you advice because you asked for it, OR you clearly look like you need it.

Something that has personally helped me in the past is going a little outside of my comfort zone and really hanging out with my player mates when they're doing their stuff with the ladies. It's amazing how much I absorbed from my mates purely via osmosis.

This worked a lot more effectively for me than hanging out on forums analysing all different types of advice (most of it conflicting anyway: it's all good advice to the right person, conflicting or not).

At least when I was hanging with my player mates in social situations I kinda had to rise to the expectation of being able to roll at their level, but MOST importantly, I was actually IN the field, not typing about it.

By handing out with your player mates guys, you can find out who YOU are in that situation: be being both participant and observer (OBSERVER, not analyser).

It worked for me, it's possible it could work for you too.

I think it's very important to keep guys (and girls) like these around. Their success begins to rub off on you and you begin to understand yourself better. No overanalyzing **** in front of a ****ing LCD screen.

its true theres an older women(30ish) proper gold digger(does modeling) type at work

shes obviouly used to guys drooling over her and can be quite abrupt towards them.

when i talk to her i give off a non bothered (ohh your a preety lady) as if i didnt notice she seems to have alot of time for me

It works. However it shouldn't have to be forced after a while.