article: Why nightclubs are overrated.

[MatureDJ]

Why nightclubs are overrated.

When I first started going out, nightclubs were the places to be if you wanted to meet women and take a girl home the same night you met her. After all, when you are new to going out, you want to g…

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Here is what it actually is.

Cliques, cliques, and more cliques.
Hyper-aggressive men ready to fight anyone.
Music so loud that you have to shout at people.
The alcohol itself is also way overpriced, by a lot actually.
A bar that is overcrowded and you have to shove your way in to get drinks at.

I recently went to a nightclub and got a Vodka Soda and a Heineken, what was the cost? $38

 

[Bingo-Player]

Yea i agree nightclubs are hard work ..... I've done Ibiza a lot and the super clubs there are some of the biggest in the world

I don't think I've ever seen anyone pull in one … everyone's usually smashed or on drugs they are nearly always over sold , the competition is absolutely incredible and girls want to stay out until the earliest hours in the hope of bagging a ticket to an after party with a celeb / superstar DJ

You have like a one hour window between 6 & 7am where some girls may be looking for sex , that's if you can endure it that long .... i worked out it was better to just wake up at like 5am go to the clubs and hang around

Bar / club hybrids are far better usually the one's that have well lit seating areas ....and maybe a small dance floor so you have the option to dance ...... girls are usually far more susceptible to pick up in these environments

I tend to hate anywhere that's over crowded or over sold can't stand sweaty people bashing into me

 

[Degenerate Haven]

I don't think I've ever seen anyone pull in one … everyone's usually smashed or on drugs they are nearly always over sold , the competition is absolutely incredible and girls want to stay out until the earliest hours in the hope of bagging a ticket to an after party with a celeb / superstar DJ

I disagree with the competition part. Looking around, I notice most women are with duds that they came with and aren't exactly with the Channing Tatums. Most of the competition is not fierce at all, it is just too loud to really do anything.

 

[Georgepithyou]

I tried clubbing a few times, but it just isn't for me since i have a full time job. I can't regularly stay late at a club since i have work the next morning and it's not really an environment i particularly enjoy.

Clubs atleast here in sydney are massive sausage fests. Even Saudi Arabia has better gender ratios. I spoke to this redhead once, she told me she had already been approached by 6 guys in the past hour.

 

[Georgepithyou]

I disagree with the competition part. Looking around, I notice most women are with duds that they came with and aren't exactly with the Channing Tatums. Most of the competition is not fierce at all, it is just too loud to really do anything.

Clearly you haven't seen clubs in Australia, lot of these guys would give Channing Tatum a run for his money plus they have no problem approaching. It's normal for every girl to be approached by dozens of above average guys in a night.

Men are wealthy here and gym culture is huge in Sydney, even Zyzz came from Sydney.

 

[Degenerate Haven]

Clearly you haven't seen clubs in Australia, lot of these guys would give Channing Tatum a run for his money plus they have no problem approaching. It's normal for every girl to be approached by dozens of above average guys in a night.

Men are wealthy here and gym culture is huge in Sydney, even Zyzz came from Sydney.

I will have to see it to believe it but I don't buy the Australia hype. Most Aussies I have known abroad are awkward and even if bodybuilding is huge there, they don't seem to be that far apart from Americans in terms of aesthetics.

 

[Serenity]

I went to the largest night club in Prague once, it has 5 floors which are differently themed. The first one is just another typical nightclub, a big dancefloor and places to sit all around. It's the creepiest fvcking thing I have seen going out ever. Almost all the tables were occupied by passive dudes just sitting there watching the dancefloor and on the dancefloor it was mostly just women. These dudes sitting there looking even gave me a creepy feeling. The floor above it was better, but not as many people. It was disco themed with colorfully lit tiles on the dancefloor, pretty much everyone was dancing and seemed to actually have fun there.

Still, the first floor was depressing to witness. Literally thirst all around.

 

[Georgepithyou]

I went to the largest night club in Prague once, it has 5 floors which are differently themed. The first one is just another typical nightclub, a big dancefloor and places to sit all around. It's the creepiest fvcking thing I have seen going out ever. Almost all the tables were occupied by passive dudes just sitting there watching the dancefloor and on the dancefloor it was mostly just women. These dudes sitting there looking even gave me a creepy feeling. The floor above it was better, but not as many people. It was disco themed with colorfully lit tiles on the dancefloor, pretty much everyone was dancing and seemed to actually have fun there.

Still, the first floor was depressing to witness. Literally thirst all around.

Those tables are expensive to book, and they get drink services for the whole night. The idea is that women come to your table since you have DHV from booking a table. In Sydney they can be thousands of dollars at a high end club

 

[2Rocky]

If nightclubs were a thing in the places I lived, I would have figured out how to make it work for me. Closest I came was a dance club in a small college town. I became a regular one night a week and then later got a job at the door as security.

I go to some annual events in small towns that have a "nightclub atmosphere" like loud music , crowds, plenty of booze. Because of the limited nature it was easy to pick up a girl from the neighboring town have an ONS and leave town the next morning.

I probably would not enjoy a REAL Vegas or LA or NYC night club though. Not my crowd. But I would stand out...

 

[SW15]

Nightlife has the quantity factor going for it. At any bar or nightclub, there are more options to approach than in the grocery store, the gym/a fitness class, or any other non-bar venue.

Nightclubs are the worst option within night game. It needs to be quieter to get a same night seduction done or have a conversation that can be the basis for finding a first date. An outdoor rooftop bar, a coccktail lounge, or a chill dive bar are all better options for getting something started.

 

[Serenity]

Those tables are expensive to book, and they get drink services for the whole night. The idea is that women come to your table since you have DHV from booking a table. In Sydney they can be thousands of dollars at a high end club

Nope, not in this nightclub. I could sit down at any one of them without paying or buying anything. No booking required, it's free for all. So it really was just a large mass of creepy dudes sitting there oogling.

Go to Karlovy Lazne in Prague and you'll see.

 

[Sam_J]

Yeah, I definitely like daytime approaching better. I went to some bars with my buddy this weekend and literally had to scream as loud as I could to talk to anyone lol because the music is turned up extremely loud in every single bar around here. I approached two girls but they were annoyed by it I think because there is no way to approach in a sophisticated or normal way when you have to yell at the top of your lungs. I ended up just giving my phone to a girl and yelling for her to put her number in. Was a joke lol. But I did inspire my friend to also approach, which I don't think he normally does, so that was cool.

 

[DonJuanjr]

I approached two girls but they were annoyed by it

I wonder if it's because they're expecting to communicate through body language not speak. They know the place is going to be loud, so if they're there to get with men, you'd think this is the case. @Young OG since you're experienced in night club pickup, what do you think of this?

 

[jaymbrs]

It's hit or miss and that alone makes it worth it. There were nights where I got absolutely no play from any woman but there was a night I was getting a bl0wjob from a woman in the mens room. And if you're into dancing, the odds are in your favor to get a few numbers.

With that said, I've moved on to lounges where conversing is much easier.

 

[Young OG]

@Young OG since you're experienced in night club pickup, what do you think of this?

Clubs are probably one of the hardest places to game. They are loud, hectic, and crowded. But if you can push through that and game, then you can game anywhere.

I disagree that they are overrated. Clubs are probably the highest volume place you can go. You could go to the mall and walk around for an hour and maybe find two women to approach. But, you can go to a club and find ten women to approach in an hour.

What is really important is to choose the right clubs to go to. The one that I frequent has a large outdoor patio with a bar. The music is not loud on the patio. I hangout on the patio and women keep coming and going all night. I've even went alone a couple times and gamed. You need a club where there is a big enough area where it's not loud. Then you can game in that area or move women to that area after approaching.

If your not doing club game, then you are missing out on potential prospects. Clubs can be hard to get used to at first, especially if your not used to the night life. The more you go and the more you push yourself, the easier it gets.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Clubs are probably one of the hardest places to game.

So in your opinion you can't just rely on body communication to game, there still needs to be a decent amount of verbal game involved. It seems like I've read posts where djs would just start dancing with women, which would lead to making out, then in some cases banging. Without much verbal game involved.

 

[Young OG]

So in your opinion you can't just rely on body communication to game, there still needs to be a decent amount of verbal game involved. It seems like I've read posts where djs would just start dancing with women, which would lead to making out, then in some cases banging. Without much verbal game involved.

If you are a really good dancer, which I'm not, then you can do dance floor game. Women will notice you and will start to dance with you. If you just think you can go out on the dance floor and start grinding with a random girl, then you're nuts. You will get rejected and lots of people in the club will see it. Body language game in the club is a bunch of bs. You need to be verbal. Now if your looking like Channing Tatum then all the stuff I said goes out the window. But, for us regular guys, you need to be verbal.

 

[Georgepithyou]

I disagree that they are overrated. Clubs are probably the highest volume place you can go. You could go to the mall and walk around for an hour and maybe find two women to approach. But, you can go to a club and find ten women to approach in an hour.

You have to really be a fan of the environment for club game to work. I prefer Cold Approach during the day as im a more chill laid back guy. Club game works if you love the music and love to party.

Nope, not in this nightclub. I could sit down at any one of them without paying or buying anything. No booking required, it's free for all. So it really was just a large mass of creepy dudes sitting there oogling.

Go to Karlovy Lazne in Prague and you'll see.

Weird that club would have free tables, tables are where they make a lot of money. Here in sydney at marquee everyone would try to book a table. My cousin does it and it works really well but his spending a lot of money and it would just be cheaper to get an escort

 

[Degenerate Haven]

I hear from a friend that the point of nightclubs being so loud is so you get more alcohol in order to numb the background noise. Noticed it myself, whenever I would be like 6 drinks deep, the noise faded out but whenever I showed up sober I felt like I was going deaf. Now I do disagree about the volumes but maybe its because I am a New Yorker. What I notice is that rooftops and quieter lounges have a lot of good looking women too.

Looking closely at it, I think nightclubs have more dolled up women in them that try to look good but it is not really as packed with hot girls that are genetically beautiful as you may think. I think nightclubs attract try hards and women who are looking good to try and get noticed but have a lot more insecurities than average. Meanwhile, the best looking women tend to be at brunch spots and more daytime types who do not get thrashed and party at nightclubs unless it is a special occasion like a bachelorette party.

 

[Guitar_Whizz]

I did alright in nightclubs back in the day, but it's not my thing now - I prefer daytime approaching. If night game is your thing, try midweek student bars or clubs - I always did better in those, even years after I was no longer a student.

Better still, walk around the streets in an area where there are lots of bars and clubs and approach the women on the street who are on a night out. No need to actually go into any bars or clubs. No need to spend any money. Just approach the same women outside. I find I get much better reactions and results like this rather than actually going to a club and trying to approach in there.