article: The New Dating Game

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Dear DJ,
Yes we have discussed,but I think it is worth taking around the Block again.
 

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Read it. Interesting. I am sure many would like to be Max Tuckerman, but here's the thing:

As might be expected, many males would like to help themselves at this overladen buffet. But there’s a problem: While it’s a truism that the main beneficiaries of the sexual revolution are men, it is only some men: the Tucker Maxes, with the good looks, self-confidence, and swagger that enable them to sidle up successfully to a gaggle of well turned-out females in a crowded and anonymous club where the short-statured, the homely, the paunchy, the balding, and the sweater-clad are, if not turned away outside by the bouncer, ignominiously ignored by the busy, beautiful people within.
If you look up a photograph of Max, he is very goodlooking. He has also written books that make him famous. The first woman in the story slept with him because he was famous, not because he is selfish.

If a less handsome man would try saying the same things that Max Tuckerman says in this story, he would just be a bastard.

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The story goes on to bash PUA teachings. As always, it presents it as a hoax that teaches that you should only say certain phrases, do certain moves, and you'll get laid. You could bash anything that way: imagine how you could describe drivers classes or tennis classes the same way. Although I agree there are many who try to make money out of too little value; there's no need to pay for videos when you can read the forum-written DJ Bible for free.

Out of such anxiety was born the “seduction community,” part band of brothers, part nakedly commercial and ferociously competitive business enterprise. The birth of the seduction business coincided neatly with the sexual revolution: with the 1970 publication of sometime film editor Eric Weber’s bestselling manual (later made into a movie) How to Pick Up Girls. Left behind like flares, double-knits, and dancing the Bus Stop, the art of the pickup was reborn in the 1990s and rebranded as an exact science. A cadre of guru-like leaders appeared with a set of elaborate rites, precisely defined techniques, and an acronym-laden private language known only to initiates—purposely designed to appeal to men, whose minds seem to thrive on ritual, hierarchy, and complex esoterica (think baseball statistics, Scout badges, the military, the Catholic Mass, and the Freemasons).
Yes, there are a lot of hucksters in this.
But this is honest by the writer:

If it all sounds cheesy, tedious, manipulative, obvious, condescending to women, maybe kind of gay, it’s because it is. But here’s the rub: This stuff works.
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Pickup mentors are relying, consciously or sub, on the principles of evolutionary psychology, which uses Darwinian theory to account for human traits and practices.
Some argue, though, that it is actually beta men who are the greatest victims of the current mating chaos: the ones who work hard, act nice, and find themselves searching in vain for potential wives and girlfriends among the hordes of young women besotted by alphas. That is the underlying message of what is undoubtedly the most deftly written and also the darkest of the seduction-community websites, the blog Roissy in DC.
 

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No Homo - but Tucker Max is not good looking. Not compared to a young Mel Gibson for example. He could be any bloke walking down the street.
 
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