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Bungo Pony

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Okay, no matter who you are, who you're dating, you're going to encounter an arguement with a woman at some point in your life. You don't need to NEXT her just because you got into an arguement with her, you just need to handle it properly (even if she started it). Most AFCs will almost immediately break down and say, "Okay, it's my fault. I'm sorry". The problem is they do this even if it isn't their fault.

The only exception to handling arguements is if they're frequently happening. If she starts an arguement everytime you're with her, it's in your best interest to NEXT her. If you're always starting the arguements, you may want to re-evaluate yourself, or the woman you're with.

There's a few things you need to remember when arguing with a woman:

1. You're not going to make her happy

Trying to make a woman happy during an arguement is impossible. No matter how much you apologize, kiss ass, or cry, she's gonna be pissed off. Face it, and deal with it.

2. Stand your ground and keep your opinions

If you're swaying between what you believe, and what your opinions are, you're not going to get anywhere. Don't change where you stand, or you're going to be looked upon as "weak". Women hate weak men!

3. Don't let her change the subject

When women are in the wrong (and they know they are), they'll try to change the subject on you. They may bring up stupid things you did in the past. The past isn't the issue, the present is. Deal with the issue at hand, or else your arguement is going to go nowhere.

4. Don't give into her childish behavior

Women who don't get their own way behave like children. She's gonna cry, she's gonna slam doors, or even threaten to leave. Women like speaking with actions, and they know it works. If she leaves the room, remain seated. She'll come back. If she leaves the house, she'll phone. Women need closure, and they'll most likely come back for it.

5. Remain Calm

Avoid getting into a screaming match with her. No matter how pissed off she is, keep your voice at a decent tone, but be firm. Women highly respect men who have control over their emotions.

6. Agree to their threats

They hate this. If she says, "Fine, you're not getting any tonight", just respond with, "That's fine". If she says, "I'm leaving", just say "Okay". They'll see that their threats aren't working, and completely go back on them. She won't go anywhere, and you WILL get some. If you want to take it a step further: when she's in the mood for sex later that day, tell her you're tired and you need to go to bed. Occasionally turning down sex keeps you in control of the relationship.

When you're pointing out something she did wrong, she won't let you know when she realizes what she did. She'll keep it hidden for the sole purpose of trying to get you to break down. Keep working at it and she'll eventually collapse. She won't immediately come out and say "I'm Sorry", but she'll say something like, "Okay, I understand". That's when you back off.

In some arguements, a power struggle will occur. A power struggle is when one person tries to take control over the relationship. Hopefully, you had the control over the relationship in the beginning, because trying to take the control from the woman is difficult, almost impossible. Whatever you do, don't give her control over the relationship. You MUST keep it! When women gain control over the relationship, all goes to hell. You immediately get filed under "weak" which is a complete turnoff.

There's a thin line between control over the relationship, and control over one's life. You control the relationship when you are the one who makes the final decisions, and decides the direction of the relationship. You control a person when you force them to behave and act the way you want. Avoid doing this.

You may not realize it, but women NEED to argue. They thrive on changes of emotions. They need their emotional rollercoaster ride. Being happy all the time is too boring. That's why they get miserable for no reason, they need to! You can let her have her emotional rollercoaster ride, but you don't need to join her.

If you've remained calm and confident, and stuck to your grounds, her respect for you will remain high.

...and in case you're wondering, no, my relationship hasn't gone to **** (it actually keeps getting better), and yes, I'm still getting married!
 

flava

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hey this guys married listen to him. good tips man
 

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Havent heard from you in forever pony, how's everything?

To quote Chris Rock "Men will never win an argument when talking to a woman. No matter how great of a man you are, you are going to fail... There is a simple reason for this : When men argue, they like to make sense!"

I cant find anything more true. From arguments with women, I've seen so much randomness it is truly scary. I've seen my mom:

Cry..to make my dad cave in...
Yell...at random people.. just to move the anger to next person...
Act indifferent... say "I dont care about you"... and wait for you to cave in.. this can go on for weeks.
Walk away... for hours, go somewhere, without giving you a slightest clue if she is ever coming back..
change the subject- like pongo noted. Watch out for this one.. WOmen LOVE to distract you from the problem, and then it is very hard to come back and face it again..

I am not married, nor have i ever really had to aruge with someone i loved (girlfriend). But from arguing with just women i know, i cant imagine how married guys do this... i guess many dont, that is why so many women wear the pants nowdays..
 

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You can't win with a woman in an argument because she will always come up with some irrational reason to justify herself that has no basis in reality.

I like Gunwitch's suggestion to just leave and/or ignore her until she apologizes. It's true that she has to see herself that she is wrong, you sure arn't going to convince her.
 

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Hey Ben....
Aren't you going to respond to your " reconnecting with an old friend "... there is some information that you may actually find pretty important to "your" situation....

Sincerely.... Your "friend's" fiance
 

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Women don't look for a solution like men do, they just discuss the problems. To a woman, the problem consists solely of what it does to her emotions.

I remember my girlfriend was getting bad grades for her exams, and I told her she'd better start working a little more (which she had said herself before), and she got mad because she found me not being supportive. Of course, I was trying to help her with the situation, but for her the real problem was how this made her feel. And I wasn't helping in that, for I was looking towards a solution for the actual problem.

It's all in the interpretation, always be alert for miscommunication.

Good post by the way.
 

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Originally posted by rgeere
You can't win with a woman in an argument because she will always come up with some irrational reason to justify herself that has no basis in reality.

I like Gunwitch's suggestion to just leave and/or ignore her until she apologizes. It's true that she has to see herself that she is wrong, you sure arn't going to convince her.
I agree with this 100%. I learned this through experience. If a women tries to engage you in an argument. Do not engage, keep in your own reality and the mental state you want to be in.

Underneath it all, What do you want out of your reality?

A: Probably fun, enjoyment of life, positive vibes

If she successfully owns your emotional state, she has dominated you.

I think this topic was good to bring up because I notice a lot of DJ's don't have a grasp for this.

Women have other motives for arguing and they aren't based upon logic.
 

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Here's a funny story to illustrate my point:

Once upon a time I was conversing with a girl. I told her I was going to a strip club that night. She started to argue with me, calling me out that I claimed to be moral yet wasn't showing any there.

I could simply rationalize the situation by telling her that I have my own morals. I don't believe there is anything wrong with showing the nude body.

And so I did somewhat, but as you notice once YOU ENGAGE in an arguement with a woman. They will keep distancing themselves from you with every response you make back to them.

But then I smartened up and said "I'm done with this foolishness" and ignored her and did not talk to her. Until she IM'd me about 2 weeks later acting in a different way.

Oh yes, and a few days after that. She called me in the morning telling me about her exciting night at the "STRIP CLUB".

Get the point? I think you do.


My opinion:

Once girl argues, just make fun of her, change the subject, ignore her, do whatever it takes to stay in the mental state you want to be in, not what she wants to control you in. I love to have fun so those are my tactics to keep that state.
 

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Originally posted by Avon
One girl i'm seeing is a total pain with the arguing, always finding some nonsense to test me with. I walked away, and then she behaved for a while, but now she is up to her old tricks again.

She rarely does it in person, and she is a *****cat after sex, but on Yahoo, etc she always tries to get my attention by going on the offence early.

I try to stand my ground and not inflame things too much. But I won't take any crap, how many times do I have to prove that? I guess I will have to send her back to b*tch-school.

I know some of you will telll me to next her (and I did once, remember), but she is possibly the hottest, dirtiest honey I have ever met (shes a successful model, she even has fans), so I probably cut her more slack than I would a regular chick.

When arguing, remaining calm is important, and so is showing you have limits. Also, women will often be using double standards. Many complaints can be neutralized if you reverse the sexes or get her to see it from the other point of view.

Never compromise your beliefs. But knowingly mocking them every now and again will show you can laugh at your self, a sign of confidence.
 
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