Are you still on OLD?

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Then read this: http://www.netimperative.com/2019/0...-9-to-1-while-grinder-wins-for-age-diversity/

Keep in mind that out of that tiny amount of women, how many of them are cluster Bs, single moms, washed up from alcohol, smoking and bad choices, too unattractive for you to look at in real life, transvestites, fake profiles, cash appers and prostitutes, or just farming validation and entertainment?

And see this too:

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Just like men were recommended to stop doing weak and blue pill behaviors like wining and dining women and many others in the initial surge of the red pill, I think it may now be time to really recommend 90% of guys* to stop being on OLD and antisocial media. Not in some sort of butthurt incel or angry tradcon revenge ploy against women, but for mens' own sakes. There has got to be enjoyable or at least fruitful ways to meet women, right?

Just this evening as I was out walking, one of the few people I passed was a cute girl who looked at me and blushed as she came close before breaking eye contact. And the other day before that I had a similar encounter. My SMV in reality is seemingly utterly different than it was online. And I don't even blame women for it. Our behaviors change depending on the stimuli we are inputted with. OLD to women is a sensory overload - especially the apps that are the most image-focused and allow the least criteria filters, like Tinder. If every time you talked to a woman in real life, 100+ men were likewise trying to talk to her, would her behavior change? Of course. It would have to. And that's what OLD is, a radically different social forum than anything even in our recent evolutionary history like bars and clubs (not to talk those places up - I haven't been out to them in years), let alone earlier when we lived in tribes. Don't hate the players (women), hate the game.

* A small minority of men can and do make OLD and antisocial media work for them. Model-like men with professional quality pictures that show off their lifestyle, relatively good looking older men who have taken care of themselves and are dating in a range where mens' and womens' SMVs converge more, and men (such as those first two groups) in places with relatively favorable gender ratios like NYC, each have better odds than average. To me, that's great. I'm not an envious hater. But you have to face reality, which is that there are two different realities: the vast majority of guys would be better served to not conflate themselves with this apex of model-like looks and pictures or very fortunate circumstances and instead delete the apps, as they both don't give results while consuming time and energy, and have been found to ruin your selfesteem.
 
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All my years of studying human behavior and working on myself is not going to show online. When I approach girls I get compliments "You were chill when you came up and talked to us" .etc

Online is shallow and there literally is no thrill to the hunt.

Boring. Toxic. I stay away. Tinder had it's moments in the past like actual hotties, but those days are long gone.
 

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A strong effect also depends on which are you run those apps.

In Europe according to which country you are in, simply moving 100km (little more than 60miles) and crossing a border makes a hell of a difference.

A further problems is that no-reply habit, if matches were few but effective it wouldnt be as bad as now.
 

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I spun a chick 6 months or so ago that had like 5 OLD accounts. She apparently had all of them in attempt to see how committed the guy was that she was seeing previously. So she kept them so when she started talking to someone, she could see what type of person he was.

One account she had was a really professional one. Then they trended down to really slutty ones.

There are a tremendous amount of women doing this and thus the reason for so many of these fake accounts.
 

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If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I spun a chick 6 months or so ago that had like 5 OLD accounts. She apparently had all of them in attempt to see how committed the guy was that she was seeing previously. So she kept them so when she started talking to someone, she could see what type of person he was.

One account she had was a really professional one. Then they trended down to really slutty ones.

There are a tremendous amount of women doing this and thus the reason for so many of these fake accounts.
In ur opinion, a guessestimate percentage of hot sexy young popular women, that has an active social life is on Tinder?
 

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In ur opinion, a guessestimate percentage of hot sexy young popular women, that has an active social life is on Tinder?
I guess I am not understanding your question completely.

I will answer it this way: I think there are less than 5% on Tinder that I would go out with. Of those 5%, most of them are smart enough to have more accounts than their actual real account for the reasons I mentioned above. They want to see if the same guy that tells their real and more conservative/professional account the same thing as the fake profile that is looking for dic. If it is a relationship type guy they are looking for, they want to see if they can dismiss him by finding red flags through things he tells their "slutty" profile.

Its not just Tinder. Its Bumble/POF/Etc.

Of course Glassguy is too smart for that shyte and I just tell them all "Not sure what I am looking for. I am recently single and I am currently having fun being single and exploring my options. I am not necessarily looking for a relationship but I wouldnt dismiss the opportunity with the right person".

That way they have to figure me out. They have to show me they are the "right person" by pursuing me to an extent and showing me high interest.

So if thats what your question was meant to be, thats my explanation. If not, let me know and I will answer it differently.

I will give you an example on this:

I was spinning a Nurse Practitioner earlier this year. She knew I dated other people. She made it clear that she ultimately wanted a relationship with me and not just dating/hanging out.

So she created an OLD profile that was fake and she messaged me. Apparently she had a friend that she stole online pics from. Said friend was pretty hot and seemed dtf. So I organized a date but I did it knowing that her texting verbiage and the plate's verbiage were nearly identical. So I caught on quick.

I backed out of the "date" with the fake OLD profile and the plate blew up on me when I took the fake profile's offer to meet for drinks. So she exposed herself but then denied that it was her.

I banged her a few more times and then sent her down the road. I made it clear that I was interested in dating, and that I was talking to other women and she couldnt handle it so she went ballistic with the fake profile. Hell she even created a fake FB page to match the fake OLD profile. I had 4 mutual friends with the fake profile so I messaged each one to see if they actually knew her or if they randomly added her.
Guess what? None actually knew her and none could verify if the fake profile was actually a real person. I explained the situation and they all blocked her. One even called her out on the fake profile before blocking her. All in all in was humorous that she would put so much effort into trying to trap me into a relationship.

Women are really deceitful and jealous creatures. Buyer beware!
 

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I guess I am not understanding your question completely.

I will answer it this way: I think there are less than 5% on Tinder that I would go out with. Of those 5%, most of them are smart enough to have more accounts than their actual real account for the reasons I mentioned above. They want to see if the same guy that tells their real and more conservative/professional account the same thing as the fake profile that is looking for dic. If it is a relationship type guy they are looking for, they want to see if they can dismiss him by finding red flags through things he tells their "slutty" profile.

Its not just Tinder. Its Bumble/POF/Etc.

Of course Glassguy is too smart for that shyte and I just tell them all "Not sure what I am looking for. I am recently single and I am currently having fun being single and exploring my options. I am not necessarily looking for a relationship but I wouldnt dismiss the opportunity with the right person".

That way they have to figure me out. They have to show me they are the "right person" by pursuing me to an extent and showing me high interest.

So if thats what your question was meant to be, thats my explanation. If not, let me know and I will answer it differently.

I will give you an example on this:

I was spinning a Nurse Practitioner earlier this year. She knew I dated other people. She made it clear that she ultimately wanted a relationship with me and not just dating/hanging out.

So she created an OLD profile that was fake and she messaged me. Apparently she had a friend that she stole online pics from. Said friend was pretty hot and seemed dtf. So I organized a date but I did it knowing that her texting verbiage and the plate's verbiage were nearly identical. So I caught on quick.

I backed out of the "date" with the fake OLD profile and the plate blew up on me when I took the fake profile's offer to meet for drinks. So she exposed herself but then denied that it was her.

I banged her a few more times and then sent her down the road. I made it clear that I was interested in dating, and that I was talking to other women and she couldnt handle it so she went ballistic with the fake profile. Hell she even created a fake FB page to match the fake OLD profile. I had 4 mutual friends with the fake profile so I messaged each one to see if they actually knew her or if they randomly added her.
Guess what? None actually knew her and none could verify if the fake profile was actually a real person. I explained the situation and they all blocked her. One even called her out on the fake profile before blocking her. All in all in was humorous that she would put so much effort into trying to trap me into a relationship.

Women are really deceitful and jealous creatures. Buyer beware!
Apologies Glasses, I was inside a moving car when I posted the above.

What i meant was how many socially well connected women would be using Tinder or OLD in ur area, in ur estimation ?
 
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