Are you at the bottom of the todem pole in your social group??..READ HERE!!

Ken785

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Most of us hang out in social circles, we all have them. In every social circle there's rankings so to speak.

There are the: False-Alphas, Betas, and Real Alphas.

"False-Alphas"
- who are the big fish in the small pond you call your circle. You can sniff these guys out by seeing it in their behavior.

They are the ones that are the "coolest", they are the most respect, they are usually the more talkative, and sometimes you can see them showing less respect to the Betas of the group...they usually do this to reaffirm the Betas and themselves that they are the "Top Dogs".

He might even disrespect you passively asking you do do things he can do himself like go get him a beer in front of others, especially HBs making you look like a tool and reinstating that you are the Beta of the group.


HBs that you may hang out with can see this instantly when they hang out with your group.


Please do not mistake this guy for a Real-Alpha!!

Disrespecting others, especially your own friends is not in the true curriculum of real Alpha men. Although these guys may show some characteristics of an Alpha, that is why women are attracted to them. They may be leaders of their own pack but they are false leaders. That is why we call these Alphas, FALSE ALPHAS.



So what is a Beta?

"Betas"- Are at the bottom of the totem pole. They follow around the Alphas of the group and usually is less respected by them. They treat the Alphas as if the Alphas are "better than them" and so the Alpha Male acts accordingly. This is not good when you're trying to pull chicks. The Alpha makes the Beta look like a tool and as a result. The chicks are more attracted toward the Alpha Male.

and finally, there are Real-Alphas:

"Real-Alpha" - The guy who is loved and respected by everyone and he shows the same. Unlike the False-Alpha he is polite to the people around him but will not take any disrespect from people either. He doesn't put up with that type of behavior. Others want to be him, women want to be with him. Please refer to "DJ" in the bible.

Its good to learn from a group of friends that are the "cool crowd" so you could learn from them and grow, but if they don't respect you it WILL resonate with the new people you guys interact with and they WILL see it. (HBs included) You can be damn sure HBs will sense you're the beta of the group..your c0ck-blocking alpha friends will make sure of it.

Worst off your friends already have a "script" about you, and that's VERY DIFFICULT to change if at all.

*Script- Other people's own definition of how they see you.

But if you hang with the "uncool" crowd, sure you'll be the alpha male of the group and sure your friends might respect you and that will make you feel a hell of a lot better but you can grow and learn anything from them. Worst off, their personalities might rub off on you.

But enough with the Negatives. So what do you do you may ask?


Best thing to do i think is if you're in either situation. START YOUR OWN PACK OF FRIENDS!!!


Seriously, who wants to be stuck in a group if your not even respected on the same level. You're never going to pull any tail that way and you're going to live a miserable life.

On the flip side, if your group is full of Betas, that do nothing to improve themselves... Find yourself some people that do want to. You don't need these guys holding you back in life and your progression to be a successful socially.

Go out on your own and make new friends. You're a social being right? Who doesn't like to meet new people? These new people will have no idea what type of person you are. If you have a new DJ identity, show them that!!

They will see it and your new script will be written through them and they will see you as a DJ because you will act accordingly.

But what about your old "friends" you know, the "uncool" or even the "cool" crowd??

I'm not saying you have to abandon them...you can still hang out with them if you want but just do it once and a while...if you are a rarity and only show up if YOU have the time, they will have more respect for you each time you come around.

On a last note, just remember:

Women are seeking Alpha Males. Remember, they are the ones seeking the Alphas to rear their children, not the sissy Betas. Be the Real-Alpha, not the false one that's a jerk hmm?


Adios brothers! - Ken785
 
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You got it all wrong, mate.

The WannaBe Alphas are the ones who show less respect to the Betas and tool them around to try to look cool.

The True Alphas, the ones who are right at the top, the founders of the group, give values to everyone. They show respect and value the contribution of the Betas - otherwise they couldn't have built the group in the first place!

Who do you think is the True Alpha General? The man who respects his soldiers and shares hardship with them, or the one who tools them around and treats them like dirt? Which one is more likely to be defeated on the battlefield?

Sure, the Alphas may draw more chicks to them than the Betas, resulting in fewer females for the Betas, but they never ever go out of their way to c0ckblock the Betas. In fact, they'd even seek to hook the Betas up with someone. For the Alphas to be Alpha, their Betas have to be getting some values from them, else they're gonna leave and join up with other Alphas who give them more values.

How to tell the true Alphas in their social circle? They're the ones who seem to be nice & friendly to everyone, but when they show up or speak up, EVERYONE pays attention with respect.

The WannaBe Alphas are the ones bossing people around and people may be intimidated by them outwardly but everyone is secretly plotting to tear them down when the chances arise.

The rest of what you said are sound though. You are heavily influenced by who you hang out with. You can definitely tell a lot about a person from reading his/her friends. Most people's social circles are born out of convenience, not by solid choices. By convenience, I mean they come from school, college/university, neighbourhood, family. You can get cool friends from that but you're leaving it all to lady luck and we all know she's a b!tch.
 

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Jitterbug said:
You got it all wrong, mate.

The WannaBe Alphas are the ones who show less respect to the Betas and tool them around to try to look cool.

The True Alphas, the ones who are right at the top, the founders of the group, give values to everyone. They show respect and value the contribution of the Betas - otherwise they couldn't have built the group in the first place!

Who do you think is the True Alpha General? The man who respects his soldiers and shares hardship with them, or the one who tools them around and treats them like dirt? Which one is more likely to be defeated on the battlefield?

Sure, the Alphas may draw more chicks to them than the Betas, resulting in fewer females for the Betas, but they never ever go out of their way to c0ckblock the Betas. In fact, they'd even seek to hook the Betas up with someone. For the Alphas to be Alpha, their Betas have to be getting some values from them, else they're gonna leave and join up with other Alphas who give them more values.

How to tell the true Alphas in their social circle? They're the ones who seem to be nice & friendly to everyone, but when they show up or speak up, EVERYONE pays attention with respect.

The WannaBe Alphas are the ones bossing people around and people may be intimidated by them outwardly but everyone is secretly plotting to tear them down when the chances arise.

The rest of what you said are sound though. You are heavily influenced by who you hang out with. You can definitely tell a lot about a person from reading his/her friends. Most people's social circles are born out of convenience, not by solid choices. By convenience, I mean they come from school, college/university, neighbourhood, family. You can get cool friends from that but you're leaving it all to lady luck and we all know she's a b!tch.
Sorry i was busy editing while you posted that. Everything that you just said is true and the same thing im trying to say. Seems you are the better writer though my friend. Cheers to being an Alpha! :D - Ken785
 

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Ken785 said:
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Best thing to do i think is if you're in either situation. START YOUR OWN PACK OF FRIENDS!!!


Go out on your own and make new friends. You're a social being right? Who doesn't like to meet new people? These new people will have no idea what type of person you are. If you have a new DJ identity, show them that!!
How? I've been going to a university since August and I haven't managed to join or make any social groups. One of my coworkers has invited me a couple of times to join her and her friends for lunch. I took her offer once but I purposefully arrived at a time when I could only stay for 10 minutes.

I'm halfway through my second semester and I'm really sick of being on my own. Being shy and kind of introverted is not helping.
 

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Ken785 said:
Unlike the False-Alpha he is polite to the people around him but will not take any disrespect from people either. He doesn't put up with that type of behavior.
How does one "not take any disrespect from" someone and not "put up with" a given behavior? What measures of deterrence and punishment are used in such situations?

I've noticed that I might decide not to tolerate a given behavior, but having made such a choice alone doesn't change everyone else's behaviors.
 

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Maxtro said:
How? I've been going to a university since August and I haven't managed to join or make any social groups.
Can't you joing a sports team, music society, cultural society or something? You can meet a few people there and hopefully get introduced to other people through them.

If you're too shy to take yourself then, mayb anxiety-meds would be useful. Atleast until you make a few friends.
 

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Also, I think Alpha's real or wannabe tend to put you down. Only the real alpha's tend to be more subtle, while the wannabe's as you rightly said are more obvious and/or resort to violence.
 

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In all actuality just going to meetings is not enough. So far I've been attending the Salsa club and the Financial Management club. I haven't been to either in two weeks though.

I've never been particularly good at making friends. I also have a problem where I don't particularly care about guys. It's like the anonymous guys on forums are enough as long as there are women around me.
 
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