... are women really like that?

[The Pedantical]

A friend of mine was engaged to a girl for 7 months, both of them in their mid 20s. The girl comes from a good and classy family (pretty much everyone in her family have a university degree, and they live in the most beautiful house, with marble statues and whatnot). My friend isn't exactly a rich guy, but he's still a great man (was in active duty in Iraq and still does a lot of volunteer work in hospitals and charities, etc.)

In any case it seems the two of them went along pretty well because they promised to get married and all. The girl was one of those "no sex until mariage" types, probably because of religion or something. Well, to make a long story short, it turned out she was of the "no sex with you until mariage, but sex with lots of other people anyway" type. She was sleeping with scores of other guys, most of which she hadn't known for more than a couple of hours. She was the "party slut," a couple of beers and she starts acting like a cheap hooker and lets guys touch her in front of everyone.

Now keep in mind my friend's been paying her dinners, giving her gifts, etc., for months, and she never paid for ANYTHING! She's the millionnaire one, and she doesn't spend a penny. She would call him, send him messages, etc always to tell him how much she loved him.....

I really don't understand it. What was she looking for with my friend? He's a good-looking guy, in great shape, a good conversationalist, etc, but for some reason she treated him like a piece of junk while sleeping with guys who weren't worth a toe of his foot. It's not like some poor girl who was after a rich guy's money, she was the rich one not my friend. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever

I don't have too much experience with women other than what I read here and the few I've known, but this story really blows me away. My friend is 10 times the "man" that I am, and even him gets played out like that.

Are most women really like that, or is that girl just a disturbing exception? Because if that's the way it's supposed to be, you can't let your guard down for even one second with these girls.

 

[DJDamage]

Are most women really like that, or is that girl just a disturbing exception? Because if that's the way it's supposed to be, you can't let your guard down for even one second with these girls.

No most women are not like that rather it is your friend who has the problem. He is the one that decided to supplicate her ass so he shouldn't be comlaining because he created this monster. He is also the one that thought it was a good idea to marry a chick who doesn't have sex until marriage.

Your friend is the idiot one and he should have got out a long time ago.

 

[HaremMasterThomas]

Nothing makes any sense these days, lets face the facts not long back Player_Supreme was supposedly seen attempting to seduce other guys in a popular Los Angeles nightclub for gays, yet he has his own website informing heterosexual AFC guys how to seduce hot babes, he obviously denies his doing this, though what can you believe, the World is full of people doing things that they say they detest, maybe it is true that all girls are sluts.

 

[squirrels]

It's funny how women get their thinking twisted.

Here's the deal...HE is the "right kind of guy". She's been raised to think she should marry this kind of gentleman. So she goes out with him, does the boyfriend/girlfriend thing, holds the sex back because that's what mommy told her when she was young.

But it's not who she is. She WANTS to be naughty and f*ck. But she can't jeopardize her long-term relationship that she's been TAUGHT to have by trying to do what she WANTS to do. (and your boy either wasn't sexually attractive to her or didn't know how to get what he wants)

So she goes out and gets d!ck from other guys. Other guys she doesn't give two sh!ts about impressing and can appear to be a slvt in front of with no consequences. All the while trying to work into a "good, wholesome, Stepford-Wife relationship" with her current man, hoping one day her wild side will calm down so she can be the good little drone society wants her to be.

"Just one more good time and then I'll quit. I'll be the good little girl and lead the boring life society wants me to live. Just one more good time and it'll be out of my system."

Imagine what that must do to a girl's self-esteem, to feel like her natural desire to have fun is some kind of wicked addiction that makes her a "bad person", a "slvt", a "*****".

 

[HaremMasterThomas]

It's funny how women get their thinking twisted.

Here's the deal...HE is the "right kind of guy". She's been raised to think she should marry this kind of gentleman. So she goes out with him, does the boyfriend/girlfriend thing, holds the sex back because that's what mommy told her when she was young.

But it's not who she is. She WANTS to be naughty and f*ck. But she can't jeopardize her long-term relationship that she's been TAUGHT to have by trying to do what she WANTS to do. (and your boy either wasn't sexually attractive to her or didn't know how to get what he wants)

So she goes out and gets d!ck from other guys. Other guys she doesn't give two sh!ts about impressing and can appear to be a slvt in front of with no consequences. All the while trying to work into a "good, wholesome, Stepford-Wife relationship" with her current man, hoping one day her wild side will calm down so she can be the good little drone society wants her to be.

"Just one more good time and then I'll quit. I'll be the good little girl and lead the boring life society wants me to live. Just one more good time and it'll be out of my system."

Imagine what that must do to a girl's self-esteem, to feel like her natural desire to have fun is some kind of wicked addiction that makes her a "bad person", a "slvt", a "*****".

Do you think it is a great thing for a girl to be a slvt, these days gay marriage is considered to be a great thing, where will it all end.
What you are saying is very true though, most woman are slvts.

 

[Snow Plowman]

All great replies

You're friend needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

This is the perfect Caretaker vs Seducer story.

Basically those are the only two types of guys who will get laid. Caretakers are logically screened by the woman and she decides when she will give her validation (sex) to him very slowly. (Months, years, rules)

The seducer is the guy who is giving her all these good emotions and a fun time as a result she wants his validation. (sex) This is what she feels emotionally so this can happens as quick as you can get angry.

Now as seducer guy you can get the best of both worlds by showing both traits of a seducer and caretaker. But as a caretaker you can't switch to a seducer.

Caretaker supplicates, invests more time into her than she does back to him, always doing favors, etc. In end she will hold the Pusvy as a way of keeping her high value status.

It's sad but true, you're never going to get closer to no pusvy paying for everything and constantly doing stuff. An this is why I always live by "No talks about relationship until we've had sex". There is no way I'm thinking about relationships and what we have going on later down the line until we've had that our first session of sex, that way she's given me her acceptance and now she won't use sex as a power tool.

The way I think of every girl is just that. A girl who is just like every other girl I see on the street. Only thing that is different is that I'm playing around and messing with this particular girl, an we just so happen to be having a good vibe and were just having fun and hanging out, if it leads to something then it leads to that.

 

[GtarPlayr73]

Great analysis, Squirrels and Snow Plowman...

 

[The Pedantical]

All great replies

You're friend needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

This is the perfect Caretaker vs Seducer story.

Basically those are the only two types of guys who will get laid. Caretakers are logically screened by the woman and she decides when she will give her validation (sex) to him very slowly. (Months, years, rules)

The seducer is the guy who is giving her all these good emotions and a fun time as a result she wants his validation. (sex) This is what she feels emotionally so this can happens as quick as you can get angry.

Now as seducer guy you can get the best of both worlds by showing both traits of a seducer and caretaker. But as a caretaker you can't switch to a seducer.

Caretaker supplicates, invests more time into her than she does back to him, always doing favors, etc. In end she will hold the Pusvy as a way of keeping her high value status.

It's sad but true, you're never going to get closer to no pusvy paying for everything and constantly doing stuff. An this is why I always live by "No talks about relationship until we've had sex". There is no way I'm thinking about relationships and what we have going on later down the line until we've had that our first session of sex, that way she's given me her acceptance and now she won't use sex as a power tool.

The way I think of every girl is just that. A girl who is just like every other girl I see on the street. Only thing that is different is that I'm playing around and messing with this particular girl, an we just so happen to be having a good vibe and were just having fun and hanging out, if it leads to something then it leads to that.

I don't get the bolded part. Basically from what I understand, you're saying that a caretaker is basically someone who would satisfy the girl's "social image needs" but who need very little return from her, so she uses sex as leverage to manipulate him. And the seducer would rather give her more emotional satisfaction, am I right? But I don't understand why some drunk guy she barely knows at a party would make her more excited than a sober guy she's been dating for months, and why said guy can't become more of a seducer

 

[girl_in_a_boy_forum]

I'm so sorry for what happened to your friend. And no, not all girls are like that, definitely not. There are trashy girls, girls with daddies who gave them everything they wanted, hard-working girls, honest girls, religious girls, moral girls..........your friend just got a rotten apple.

Yes, there are girls out there who are determined to be abstinent until marriage (I'm one of them), there are girls who don't cheat on their boyfriends, etc.

 

[blackbelt2k]

Yes, there are girls out there who are determined to be abstinent until marriage (I'm one of them), there are girls who don't cheat on their boyfriends, etc.

I didn't know the internet had smell receptors...cuz i smell some bullshiettttttttt

 

[PrinceBeavis]

I didn't know the internet had smell receptors...cuz i smell some bullshiettttttttt

What are the statistical chances that EVERY single female in the entire world has to be a slut?

This board on the other hand, is much more likely to have males that view women in a pissy, negative way, and as all of them being sluts, since the nature of this board is to overcome rejection by women, and such.

I know plenty of girls who are like girl-in-a-boy.

 

[Snow Plowman]

I don't get the bolded part.

As a caretaker he is more of the man who will take care of the babies. She knows that he will be there so she'll logically screen the guy. Meaning it can take forever to even have sex. He is showing her a personality of a caretaker and if he comes in as a caretaker type of guy, it isn't possible for him to become a seducer all of a sudden.

But I don't understand why some drunk guy she barely knows at a party would make her more excited than a sober guy she's been dating for months, and why said guy can't become more of a seducer

It is because when she goes to clubs/bars her state is being pumped and she is becoming emotional. You have the music, drinks, friends, hyper energy, etc that is pumping her up and getting her emotional. A drunk guy comes by and happens to get lucky and actually pulls for reasons we may never know. For one I would think she just wants to get laid because your friend isn't giving her it, but if we think about it again it is her who is holding out. (Or could it be your friend never tried anything?)

There are so many different variables that we have no clue exactly why she hasn't give him any. Only generalization there is, is that your friend is a caretaker and will be a will provider for her kids. Meanwhile the those that are alpha are getting there share because they know how to give a great experience and wonderful time.

I could imagine how your friend is feeling...

 

[girl_in_a_boy_forum]

What are the statistical chances that EVERY single female in the entire world has to be a slut?

This board on the other hand, is much more likely to have males that view women in a pissy, negative way, and as all of them being sluts, since the nature of this board is to overcome rejection by women, and such.

I know plenty of girls who are like girl-in-a-boy.

Thanks, PB.

Not all women are sluts. I know, it's a hard truth to believe. If you haven't met any non-sluts, you're meeting the wrong type of women. (Hint: quality women usually don't hang out in bars or fvck on the first date.)

 

[Tha Realnezz]

Nothing makes any sense these days, lets face the facts not long back Player_Supreme was supposedly seen attempting to seduce other guys in a popular Los Angeles nightclub for gays, yet he has his own website informing heterosexual AFC guys how to seduce hot babes, he obviously denies his doing this, though what can you believe, the World is full of people doing things that they say they detest, maybe it is true that all girls are sluts.

Yeah-right..lol...Supreme will probably snap your neck for that line right there..lol...:nono:

 

[Last Man Standing]

You have received piss-poor responses thus far!!! Why are you thanking them??? HUH?? Thanking them for what??? For shyt insight!!!

She is a typical hor!!!! A simple hor!!! Why are you bastyards blaming the dude??? I guarantee you - 99% of you are going to marry hors - so quit talking shyt!!!!

Hors, I said hors always do this!! They fvck non-stop until they are ready to "settle down" then they give the "innocent act" -- why??? I'll tell you why!! Because they must inject a "wifey" image to their hor-mongering husband - to pretend and give the appearance that they are different and they should be treated differently from his previous hors - so she tries to act innocent yet is a hor slvt unpaid prostitute!!!

A man is looking for a wife and a mother to his children - hors know this -- thus they portray "THE IMAGE" which contradicts their hor reality!!!!

Idiot DJ fvcks are ignorant to such deception and will be the next fool in line to marry a hor!!!!!

Say "No" to marrying hors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[HaremMasterThomas]

Yeah-right..lol...Supreme will probably snap your neck for that line right there..lol...:nono:

It is his word against the word of the guy who said it, I don't know if it is true or not, though nothing that happens surprises me these days.

 

[Holland]

My friend is 10 times the "man" that I am

You need help, dude.

Your friend is a chump, sorry to tell you that. He means well, but he doesn't get it. He allowed an immature girl to play him. That is just pathetic.
The girl said that shiit because your friend is a good provider.
He doesn't get sex because he's not sexual, dominant and doesn't know how to get the woman to respect him and be attracted to him.

Your friend is the one who's responsible for this. He allowed the woman to behave like this. The woman is just not a good choice to go after.
Not all women are like this, choose wiser.
And get yourself some stuff on attraction, sex, building self-esteem and social dynamics.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

If she's going to parties and getting drunk then she's clearly not a born-again Christian. I think a girl has to walk the walk before they can talk the talk - now obviously there is no real religious conviction on her part for the 'sex until marriage' thing as she's obviously fvcking around with it big time.

In the world, ANYTHING, is possible and you can expect any sort of behaviour from degenerate human beings, except if it's really the 'right' girl that is matched from God - but hey, since I'm not 100% sure I've meet any of such and I'm over 31 y/o - who am I to talk? I wish I could subscribe to the idea that God has someone 'created for me' who is really properly matched although I may feel discouraged about that from time to time.

But those are my thoughts.

 

[ConantheLibertarian]

I have to go with Last Man on this. Sure the guy was a chump who wasn't assertive enough early in the relationship to keep her ho ass in check, and as a result got strung along and cheated on.

But is the woman not responsible for her actions? How much of people's behavior are we going to justify by implying it was a subconscious thing, or that someone else's behavior triggered a certain behavior in the other person? At some point, responsibility for one's actions needs to be taken.

'He acted like a chump so she cheated on him' doesn't quite do it for me. She's a lying, manipulative, 2 faced screw-for-free hor, plain and simple.

 

[Snow Plowman]

Thanks, PB.

Not all women are sluts. I know, it's a hard truth to believe. If you haven't met any non-sluts, you're meeting the wrong type of women. (Hint: quality women usually don't hang out in bars or fvck on the first date.)

There is no such thing as a slut, there are sexually frustrated women and sexually liberated women.

It's dumb to say "Quality women" because women play hard to get in order to seem high value. So what your implying is if a girl plays hard to get and holds out on sex, then she is "High quality"?

It's contradicting, you want sex but you don't want so called "Sluts". But yet every girl would give head, take it in the face, sex after few hours of meeting the guy, etc so she meets a guy who doesn't judge her by what she does sexually.

So then you hate having to fuk sluts and want quality women. So you look for girls who are hard to get and hold out on sex, but now you haven't fuked her and its been 3 months now. So you say she is a attention *****, and your frustrated that she isn't giving you anything.

Bottomline sex has nothing to do with high quality