are we truely the prize?

[sexy_kuta]

one thing that gets me and i cant stop thinking is that we as one society supose
to suceed in all areas of life right? one area being women.. we are the prize am i correct. but how do know that everyone is the prize? its good to think that way but in reality its wrong. i think its wrong telling every guy on here that "you are the prize!" when more than half the guys on here cheat, lie. and are incensure. it makes me sick. how do we know how they are? how do we know that they dont hit their gurls or cheat on them.. this thread really pissed me off, http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=109261&highlight=kuta
its fuks like them that cheat on respectful girls and give them years of baggage so the next guy they hook up wit really fuk wit thier heads.
i know im the prize. i wasnt the prize a year ago when i signed up but i know what i got to offer, i know that not every womans worth my time.
but how do i know that the next guy who posts here is?
just random thinking. dunno if iim the only guy who been thinking about this

 

[Delta]

i've been thinking similar thoughts. there are a lot of ideas in "SELF HELP" that are FALSE and are LIES.

they are USEFUL LIES. it is better sometimes to see unclearly. there is a good article in psychology today this month that talks about similar things.

it may not be true but if it ENABLES ACTION and therefore MAXIMIZE YOUR CHANCE of taking useful actions, it is better than the truth. and we are wired to deceive and self deceive.

those of us who have somehow put a premium on truth and reality... it turns out that we do what is not good for us.

wierd but i really do think this is right.

delta

 

[WaterTiger]

Guys who cheat and lie to get laid are NOT the prize. They have lowered their pride and their character to the level of a dog in heat, anything for a quick hump.

A relationship (bf/gf) is a commitment. If you don't want to be committed to one person, then DON'T GET IN A RELATIONSHIP. Spin all the plates you want, sleep with every girl who'll drop her panties, and more power to you. No one will have a problem with it.

But unless you're both into swinging, when you have a girlfriend, you aren't supposed to be boinking anyone else. And do not tolerate it from her. She makes out with someone else, dump her ass. NO EXCUSES.

(Realizing she's ranting again, WaterTiger steps down from her little soapbox and returns to her seat. )

 

[Falcon]

The problem when I hear this "You are the prize" saying from other places outside sosuave, there was never any explanation to it. What's worse is that I remember being told to say it as an affirmation over and over everyday until I 'feel' it. There was really no explanation, reason, or purpose. It was until I started reading sosuave posts (mostly pook) that I finally started to get it.

I think you are taking the 'you are the prize' concept out of context. The way I learned it stems from masculine potential. It is really hard to explain, but basically it boils down to you are the prize because you are MALE and that you have the potential to control your own life (unlike females, who are controlled by their emotions). It is a product of being able to embrace your own sexuality and keeping the focus on yourself, which anyone is capable of. You must 'worship' yourself, not women. this is one of, if not most important dj concept.

For example, many people on this forum don't realize how lucky they really are, especially the younger ones. We have something that people like hugh hefner would do anything in the world to have, and that is TIME. You see, insights like this make you realize you were the prize ALL ALONG. The tragedy is the person who never realizes this and wastes his time.
The more realizations like this that you have, the more you understand the whole you are the prize saying. So it is not a question of, are you the prize or not? Everyone is without a doubt. The question is, has it been realized? When it has been realized, sosuave has done a good job. That's why when I see you guys arguing over who should be really called the prize, I felt it was taken out of context. It only applies to you and how you see yourself.
Remember, keep the focus on yourself.

 

[Chemistry]

You need to put the situation into perspective. A lot of self-help literature and philosophy deals with helping the extreme…

Anyone who tells you that you will read their book and be a completely new person is feeding you BS… you’re on a learning curve, but it’s a slow one. In the Picking Up Woman books, the first mindset which they try to reverse is that a woman is the prize. The books are reaching out to guys who have little success with woman and put them on a pedestal, and they try to enlighten these guys to the fact that these women aren’t some super species; they’re flawed just like us…

Ultimately, the bottom line is that no one person is the prize. It’s all about improving yourself to make yourself an attractive package that any woman would be stupid to pass up. Thus, when you get knocked back by a chick, it isn’t your loss; it is hers because she’s just missed out on all that you have to offer. Why is it not your loss? Lets not be conceited here as many learner DJs are by saying they’re perfect, rather lets stay in touch with the reality of the situation… it’s not your loss because you didn’t know much about that chick besides that she looked hot and sounded cool… she might have turned out to be a cool ass chick, but you’ll never know, so why automatically assume that she was?

 

[Jariel]

I personally believe in becoming the prize by ironing out your faults and improving on what you have. I've reached a stage now where I do feel superior to most guys around me at most times, and I do believe that many women would love the chance to be with me - based on what I know or have heard.

But I have integrity and always try to be honest, respectful and try to encourage the best in others, and I think these are just as important traits to a DJ as good looks and style.

 

[thefonz]

I am

 

[Rebound Material]

I read that cheating thread and I must say....those guys that thought cheating was OK aren't prizes for sh!t.

 

[Chosen1]

this must have been on your mind for a while sexy kuta. Anyways lying and cheating to get a chick is not cool we all know that. Then there is cheating on her I personally don't believe in cheating honesty is the best policy in my opinion. I would say look I got these chicks numbers and you are hot but, I want to check out other possiblities, (Note: not leaving her). What is so wrong with that.

I do think that men are the prize more then women. All men usually want from women is sex but women want a lot more like money security and emotional stuff. No real man looks at a women and says I want a girl that is rich and can take care of me (if they do then there d!cks). As for hitting a women there is only one women that I won't hit and that's my mom. I did use to fight my sister but then I realized she wanted me to hit her so she could tell people I'm a crazy nut job.

 

[Aaron B]

I went ahead and spent much time and effort to become "the prize" so I don't have to worry about whether I am or not.

Regarding not everyone on here being "the prize": how good of a person you are will determine the level of woman you attract and date. If you are a bad person, you will most likely end up with a bad person as a mate.

You can have low morals and still believe you are the prize.

Fortunately, I was raised with high morals so I haven't had to face that issue.

 

[sexy_kuta]

i understand the fact that the only purpose of this whole prize thing is for self improvement. and basicly faclon said it

So it is not a question of, are you the prize or not? Everyone is without a doubt. The question is, has it been realized? When it has been realized, sosuave has done a good job. That's why when I see you guys arguing over who should be really called the prize, I felt it was taken out of context. It only applies to you and how you see yourself.
Remember, keep the focus on yourself.

it is for self improvment but i still believe that we blow it out of context too much, sure everyones capable of doing it but everyones capable of cheating too. so many incesure guys on here which is sad cuz i dunno how can a woman date them. i agree that these guys make me look bigger as a prize and their in some how putitng ME up as pedstal in a way. if u know what i mean.
i truly believe that incensurity is the number one, if not, definety the top three failures for relationships. because incensurity leads to many things. gettin frusturted for ur gf going to the bar with her girlfriends. things like what to do if a guy looks at ur girlfriend. are u gonna knock him out?
i seriously think we should make a thread based on incensurity
and help these guys to get the image of the real prize in them. and yes, we all have a lil prize in ourselves, but we need light to shine it. some people dunno how to flick the light switch.

 

[Sean O]

I think you guys may be mistaken about what the whole "prize" concept was originally intended for. It's a way to combat "pedestal syndrome".

See, AFCs put whatever woman they're pursuing on the philosophical pedestal, thereby convincing themselves that they are of lower value than her, which then leads to a whole slew of other AFC-isms. By getting these guys to believe that THEY are the prize (whether or not it's actually true), they trick themselves into lowering the chick's percieved value and raising their own, which makes things easier to handle psychologically.

As far as the lying, cheating, insecure douches that sexy_kuta was talking about go, I agree that they aren't anywhere near being the prize, no matter how many times they affirm themselves about it.