Are we overestimating our DJ actions

[jophil28]

On this forum ,I constantly read about how women "really want" a DJ inspite of all their femi-nazi loony protestations to the contrary . A philosophy is promoted on this forum which takes a very simplistic view of male/ female difficulties , Namely that women are difficult and dramatically disruptive because WE let them be that way . This Psych 101 at it most primitive. The old punish/ reward theory.
The reality is that most women are not suitable candidates for LTRs, and the reasons are well known to most of us here so I need not elaborate.
However, my point is that they are the way they are because of numerous factors which conditioned them WAY BEFORE we came along. The concrete is set.
TO think that we can undo the damage that their upbringing wrought by
" standing up " for ourselves is just naive and grandiose.
No amount of DJness and assertive retraining will undo the crap that drives most of them.
You can't train the untrainable - just move on .

 

[thesynergist]

On this forum ,I constantly read about how women "really want" a DJ inspite of all their femi-nazi loony protestations to the contrary . A philosophy is promoted on this forum which takes a very simplistic view of male/ female difficulties , Namely that women are difficult and dramatically disruptive because WE let them be that way . This Psych 101 at it most primitive. The old punish/ reward theory.
The reality is that most women are not suitable candidates for LTRs, and the reasons are well known to most of us here so I need not elaborate.
However, my point is that they are the way they are because of numerous factors which conditioned them WAY BEFORE we came along. The concrete is set.
TO think that we can undo the damage that their upbringing wrought by
" standing up " for ourselves is just naive and grandiose.
No amount of DJness and assertive retraining will undo the crap that drives most of them.
You can't train the untrainable - just move on .

i completely disagree (with the exception of your assertion that most women aren't suitable for LTR's).

chicks do want dj's. dj's bring out the animal in HB's. dj's make women WANT and WONDER. Great dj's have mastered themselves, their minds, their bodies and actions. Great dj's get what they want, and HB's wanna be what they get.

i strongly believe the whole game is simply one of the greatest self-improvement strategies ever devised; a man who's focus is on progress and improvement, action and results...girls can't resist that.

it's not about retraining chicks. it's about retraining YOURSELF.

 

[azanon]

I never got the impression that the point of seduction or DJing is manipulating a woman to your liking. It seems to me that its baseline use is to simply be effective at seducing them while maintaining your dignity, respect, and manhood.

As has been discussed at length this past month or two, a LTR should only be a byproduct of a really great woman you decide you want to keep for a extended period of time; point being a DJ doesnt (shouldn't) go actually looking for a LTR.

At our core, we only ultimately need and instinctly want women for sex. They're the ones that need us for more than that.

 

[grinder]

Does a prospector try to change the rocks to gold or does he just sift until he finds nuggets?

Being a DJ just makes it easier (and fun) to sift.

 

[azanon]

Very nice analogy; I like it.

 

[jophil28]

The point that I was making is that no amount of clever DJ actions will convert a pathologically disordered woman into a suitable candidate for an LTR. They just zap your energy and waste your time.That is why I said "move on"..

 

[insidious]

Hmm, I kinda agree, kinda don't.

I think at her core, most women instinctually realize and know, either conciously or subconciously, what it is about a masculine man that Mother Nature has designed for her ultimate feminine pleasure.

On the other hand, I think a lot of these DJ "teachings" pre-suppose that most women conciously realize this, and hence are very open to the DJ character. Unfortunately, I think most women don't have a conscious awareness of Mother Nature's game plan, and through their own emotional and personality imperfections, choose men who are a lot less than men.

 

[WaterTiger]

Jophil28~ It's not what women WANT it's what they NEED. They NEED a strong guy who won't take their crap, makes fact-based logical decisions, and creates a safe environment at home. Women will cry that they want a sensitive guy who panders to their every need, brings them flowers, candy and stuffed animals...They they chase off down the street after a "bad boy", who does nothing on their list.

I do agree with your statement that there are some people (female AND male) who are psycologically unfit for a relationship.

Does a prospector try to change the rocks to gold or does he just sift until he finds nuggets?

Nice one Grinder!

 

[thesynergist]

Does a prospector try to change the rocks to gold or does he just sift until he finds nuggets?

Being a DJ just makes it easier (and fun) to sift.

well put man!

another cool thing about being a dj is that sometimes the gold finds you all on it's own