Are minimalist/frugal lifestyles always a turn-off for women?

[mrgoodstuff]

I don't own a car right now, and my apartment is very minimally furnished. I only have a loveseat, kitchen table/dining chairs, gaming computer/desk, and two worn down leather chairs. I don't even have a bed frame or box spring - just a king mattress on the floor (and no it's not a studio apt). I have a 12 year old basic LED TV that I connect to my gaming computer as a secondary monitor for watching downloaded movies/shows (no streaming services). I have only basic kitchenwear (one plate, a few bowls, only 2-3 of each utensil...) No lamps, no decoration, literally nothing else. I have a few nice shirts and pants, a couple nice pairs of shoes, but almost no other clothing besides workout/lounge stuff. That said, my apartment building is actually a nice high rise in a fantastic location with a good view.

How many women, with their superficial/consumerist mindset, would see a problem with all of this? Once I move later this year I do plan on getting some more things, including a car, but until then I zero intention of getting anything else.

Have enough cookware and dishes for 4 to 6 guests.

 

[ananas]

I don't own a car right now, and my apartment is very minimally furnished. I only have a loveseat
I don't even have a bed frame or box spring - just a king mattress on the floor
I have a 12 year old basic LED TV
I have only basic kitchenwear (one plate, a few bowls, only 2-3 of each utensil...)
No lamps, no decoration,
literally nothing else.

How many women, with their superficial/consumerist mindset, would see a problem with all of this?

How many women, with their superficial/consumerist mindset, would see a problem with all of this?


WHAAAAAAT ??????????????????????????

 

[ananas]

their superficial/consumerist mindset

NO LAMPS
NO DECORATIONS

 

[devilkingx2]

Ideally I'd like everything I own to be able to fit in a small car. I intend to live in nice pre-furnished homes in vibrant social locations. I could happily live in a 400sq foot home if it was designed well enough. I have a nice computer and gaming monitor, nice headphones; tons of digital movies, shows, and games - that's all I need for home entertainment. I will admit, a newer TV would be nice at some point, and so would a comfy sectional couch. Other than that, all I need is some nice clothes and basic kitchenwear for cooking.

Alright well that's at least reasonable, I wish you the best.

 

[ananas]

@FlexpertHamilton
X is someone that seems nice after a first date at a restaurant, you have some low intensity, positive emotions for X, it feels warm in your heart.
there is the vague idea in your head that a non negligible part of your future would be accompanied by X.
you are excited to meet X again, you dress well, perfume, so you'll look nice and both of you will pass a good time, with many smiles and laugh.

then....... X brings you in one of these rooms:
focus on how you feel

 

[ananas]

next day you meet at Y's place.
you enter Y's place for the first time:
focus on how you feel

then you tell X you feel more at ease in Y's place.
then ... X tells you.... YOU R A SUPERFICIAL CONSOOOMERIST FILTHY WOMAN

lol?

 

[ananas]

superficiality is subjective.

for me a TV is superficial. I never watch it, I'm not interested by watching it, I have many other occupations and hobbies.
for some, a TV is kind of essential to relax after a productive day, to deload your brain of the stress accumulated and be more productive next day.

maybe for you, decoration, lamps, furniture... are superficial, but I assure you that for most people, men and women, it is absolutely essential.

by critiquing other peoples important things, you just show that these persons feelings are unimportant for you, that your view of the world is one-sided and that you prefer to insult women rather than make little concessions to make them feel at ease, in a warm, cozy environment.
You may play the fake MGTOW thug "I don't care what women think", "if a woman doesn't like me the exact weird way I am, then **** em'", "by the way they're superficial and dumb", "they only want money btw", you can be an hateful incel if you wish so, tho it won't bring you any good more than a short-sighted cope.
However we are on a board that focus on GETTING, yes, getting women, not creeping them out then coping by insulting them.

Good luck.

 

[ananas]

I never particularly liked having people hanging out at my place, even when I was a kid. I've always strongly preferred hanging at someone else's place, or just ya know, go out somewhere. This is true with both friends and women I see (with some exception if they live in a ****hole). Plus, my main friend group all live in different parts of the country, so we mostly see each other on big trips we plan a few times a year. With local friends I will just go out and do things with (like tennis or hikes). You don't need to have people inside your home to be social with them. I'm extremely introverted, so I need my own personal space to recharge.

One of the reasons I don't have anything else is because I move once every year or two (9x in the past 12 years) and I'm sick to death of having to move or sell all my ****. Beyond that, most of it serves no purpose for me - does a bed frame improve the quality of my life? No. What does it do except burden me with yet another bulky, non-essential item I have to take care of? I've had plenty of opportunities for free bed frames, couches, etc and I always pass it up - money has nothing to do with it.

Hell man, I even had a N64 and Gamecube in excellent condition with tons of games (some rare), original controllers, etc I sold that **** a few years ago because I never used it anymore. I routinely throw out or sell anything I don't use and I've literally never regretted it.

Ideally I'd like everything I own to be able to fit in a small car.

And stop with counter arguments.
Why do you even argue at all?

not having a bed frame does make you look poor, girls won't tell you that directly but they will think it. You won't have the opportunity to argue with them about that, and if you do, please don't. It's boring as fvck.

so why do you argue, if not to make you feel better about your obvious flaws?

Ideally I'd like everything I own to be able to fit in a small car.

being a gypsy is okay and maybe even niche for some women, but overall it won't help you.

 

[Smok1nAce]

I think a minimalist lifestyle is different then being frugal.

frugal to me is like being cheap and constantly nickle and dimeing yourself, like eatting of paper plates cause its somehow cheaper not to do the dishes or your dive a beat up car held together by duck tape cause "Its still reliable".

Minimalist is just not having excessive amount of things, your'll have really nice suites and shoes but thats about it in your closet or a nice place you living in but isnt fully furnished.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Alright well that's at least reasonable, I wish you the best.

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Nah, I don't even let my phone in my bedroom, let alone a TV or gaming system, that is beyond retarded to have a setup like that. I actually tend to spend a fair bit of time outside my place, so when I am home gaming or watching stuff is all I really need.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I think a minimalist lifestyle is different then being frugal.

frugal to me is like being cheap and constantly nickle and dimeing yourself, like eatting of paper plates cause its somehow cheaper not to do the dishes or your dive a beat up car held together by duck tape cause "Its still reliable".

Minimalist is just not having excessive amount of things, your'll have really nice suites and shoes but thats about it in your closet or a nice place you living in but isnt fully furnished.

I'm minimalist by intention, mostly driven by philosophical beliefs that I learned from Epictetus, and from some documentaries that really made me question materialistism in general. Not really frugal except in the sense of not wasting money needlessly. I have some nice clothes, and I'm not afraid to splurge on things, but only if I expect to use them regularly or get considerable value from them.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

superficiality is subjective.

for me a TV is superficial. I never watch it, I'm not interested by watching it, I have many other occupations and hobbies.
for some, a TV is kind of essential to relax after a productive day, to deload your brain of the stress accumulated and be more productive next day.

maybe for you, decoration, lamps, furniture... are superficial, but I assure you that for most people, men and women, it is absolutely essential.

by critiquing other peoples important things, you just show that these persons feelings are unimportant for you, that your view of the world is one-sided and that you prefer to insult women rather than make little concessions to make them feel at ease, in a warm, cozy environment.
You may play the fake MGTOW thug "I don't care what women think", "if a woman doesn't like me the exact weird way I am, then **** em'", "by the way they're superficial and dumb", "they only want money btw", you can be an hateful incel if you wish so, tho it won't bring you any good more than a short-sighted cope.
However we are on a board that focus on GETTING, yes, getting women, not creeping them out then coping by insulting them.

Good luck.

You must have missed the part where you said I prefer spending time at others places. I do not want chicks in my home, mainly since it's hard to make them leave at night; I refuse to share a bed with them because I get zero sleep (I used to be an insomniac for years). Hell, half the reason I don't have a bedframe is so they won't want to stay overnight.

You asked in another post why I'm arguing, and why I'm "critiquing" other peoples choices - I am doing that because my minimalist sentiment is actually extremely important to me and I think most people are fundamentally wrong to focus on loving things over people. Besides, I'm not at the point, financially, where I'm willing to buy a bunch of **** just to make others more comfortable. One day I will have a more cozy home space but only when I have a net worth in the hundreds of thousands.

You're either a troll or a clown if you think my place looks anything like those photos btw.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

You must have missed the part where you said I prefer spending time at others places. I do not want chicks in my home, mainly since it's hard to make them leave at night; I refuse to share a bed with them because I get zero sleep (I used to be an insomniac for years). Hell, half the reason I don't have a bedframe is so they won't want to stay overnight.

I'm the same way, I'm guaranteed to sleep like sh1t if I'm sharing my bed. Imo the key is avoiding any dealbreakers or eyesores and making sure everything (the place, neighborhood, furnishings) is at least decent.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I'm the same way, I'm guaranteed to sleep like sh1t if I'm sharing my bed. Imo the key is avoiding any dealbreakers or eyesores and making sure everything (the place, neighborhood, furnishings) is at least decent.

It also baffles me how many women snore, I'm talking like 90% or more of them. Absolutely ridiculous, as if it wasn't hard enough to fall asleep when sharing a bed already. Then they get offended when I mention being insomniac and preferring to sleep alone, and they insist they don't snore. That's why it's so much better to go to their place, you can **** and cuddle until she gets sleepy, then leave.