Are Men & Women Equal?

[soulforge]

This is a very interesting conversation, absolutely a must watch.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

No, in terms of success as a species we are specialized. Each sex has its strengths and weaknesses.

A father and a mother of a child each provide each child male and female different things that they need to thrive.

Can a mother rear her son? Yes, but he will lack things that the father can only provide, same with a daughter.

Can a father rear boys and girls alone? Yes, but they will lack what the mother can only provide.

These are just two examples. There a many many more.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Strength is a terrible barometer to base an individual's value in society. When I criticize the manosphere/RP for taking a turn to the more urban inner-city/youth crowd, this is one of the points I criticize. When Elon Musk takes his wife out to a date or outing, fighting another man to appear alpha and protect his SO is literally the last thing on his mind. The only people only people that are deeply concerned by this are Ray Ray and Pookies and crime lords.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Strength is a terrible barometer to base an individual's value in society. When I criticize the manosphere/RP for taking a turn to the more urban inner-city/youth crowd, this is one of the points I criticize. When Elon Musk takes his wife out to a date or outing, fighting another man to appear alpha and protect his SO is literally the last thing on his mind. The only people only people that are deeply concerned by this are Ray Ray and Pookies and crime lords.

Elon Musk has security guards that wouldn't blink eye punching the lights out of anyone who tries to hurt Elon or his wife. So yeah, it's once said that we are only a few square meal from descending to chaos. A lot of people walking down the street at night from work in chicago are worried about "strength".. Strength is not over rated. Strength can be in the form of money (to hire security/police, etc..) and/or the form of physical strength in protecting yourself.. or strength can be in the form of intellect to be smart enough to have a job that doesn't require you to work amongst those who are criminally inclined.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Elon Musk has security guards that wouldn't blink eye punching the lights out of anyone who tries to hurt Elon or his wife. So yeah, it's once said that we are only a few square meal from descending to chaos. A lot of people walking down the street at night from work in chicago are worried about "strength".. Strength is not over rated. Strength can be in the form of money (to hire security/police, etc..) and/or the form of physical strength in protecting yourself.. or strength can be in the form of intellect to be smart enough to have a job that doesn't require you to work amongst those who are criminally inclined.

Well, I am not and unless I am in a sketch area (rarely because I do my best to avoid those areas) I am not worried about that. The best defense to these types of situations is to avoid them in the first place, not go out looking to prove your strength. Otherwise, everyone would be walking around with bodyguards to protect them. We live in a civilized society with law enforcement that keeps it this way. Furthermore, I have been to countries that have large wealth disparity & high crime rates such as South Africa and Brazil and I didn't see anyone walking around with bodyguards in public areas. In addition, I know, and I have witnessed people mess with guys twice their size, so just being strong isn't even a deterrent from danger either.

 

[Deranged]

No, in terms of success as a species we are specialized. Each sex has its strengths and weaknesses.

A father and a mother of a child each provide each child male and female different things that they need to thrive.

Can a mother rear her son? Yes, but he will lack things that the father can only provide, same with a daughter.

Can a father rear boys and girls alone? Yes, but they will lack what the mother can only provide.

These are just two examples. There a many many more.

I agree with what you're saying here. But unless I'm misinterpreting what you've outlined, it provides examples for a Yes answer not the No you've given.
The way I see it; as much as men are more capable at everything, we're nothing without having women as the essential driving force/motivation of life. Making us completely even.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Men and women are not equal. The term is sexual dimorphism.

Men need women only to reproduce. Women need men to survive. Women cannot physically survive in nature without men. This is generally true among mammalian species, and it is a key difference. A human male, or group of human males, thrown into the jungle with no human females can indeed survive until the end of their natural life. It is not true vice versa. Human females will die within days without human males.

 

[CornbreadFed]

. A human male, or group of human males, thrown into the jungle with no human females can indeed survive until the end of their natural life. It is not true vice versa. Human females will die within days without human males.

Strength alone does not guarantee survival in the scenario you described. In the challenging environment of the Congolese jungle, the prowess of even the strongest men on this forum would prove insufficient against the formidable creatures that call this ecosystem home. Mammals like hippos, elephants, chimpanzees, crocodiles, and leopards have evolved to thrive in this complex habitat, and their adaptations are far more nuanced than sheer muscle power.

 

[Deranged]

A human male, or group of human males, thrown into the jungle with no human females can indeed survive until the end of their natural life. It is not true vice versa. Human females will die within days without human males.

This part is irrelevant considering the net outcome of both scenarios is 0. There are no more humans being made. So the timeframe is meaningless. But I do appreciate you Cornbrae writing a novel about it, such passion.

 

[CornbreadFed]

This part is irrelevant considering the net outcome of both scenarios is 0. There are no more humans being made. So the timeframe is meaningless. But I do appreciate you Cornbrae writing a novel about it, such passion.

Sorry, I just cannot stand the Caveman/Paleolithic analogies, I get instantly triggered. It was too much, I edited it.

 

[soulforge]

Godamn did any of you basement dwellers even watch the video lol

 

[BackInTheGame78]

IMO Women are superior to men in the fact that they can do nothing other than look good and get a man who spent his life building wealth to give it all to them.

 

[soulforge]

IMO Women are superior to men in the fact that they can do nothing other than look good and get a man who spent his life building wealth to give it all to them.

That's some clever as chit Psy OP.

 

[mbc0029]

"Equal" is a misleading term, even if you're trying to dispell the notion of equality. It implies one is more or less than the other, however you want to define that. It's inaccurate, at best.

Women and Men compliment each other pretty well, when you let nature take it's course. That's a simple way of putting it.

I think there's brain scans that show this. The structure of men and women's brains are different, but they go hand in hand.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

"Equal" is a misleading term, even if you're trying to dispell the notion of equality. It implies one is more or less than the other, however you want to define that. It's inaccurate, at best.

Women and Men compliment each other pretty well, when you let nature take it's course. That's a simple way of putting it.

I think there's brain scans that show this. The structure of men and women's brains are different, but they go hand in hand.

Agree...women are strong in areas where men are not usually and men are strong in areas where women frequently are not.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Agree...women are strong in areas where men are not usually and men are strong in areas where women frequently are not.

id rather have the women strengths

 

[BackInTheGame78]

id rather have the women strengths

Only if you were a good looking one. If you are an ugly one then most of those strengths are gone.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Only if you were a good looking one. If you are an ugly one then most of those strengths are gone.

An ugly woman can still compete with a Chad for attention. There was this loud and ugly girl at my HS and the running joke was that she probably still had more sex than most of the guys lol.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Well, I am not and unless I am in a sketch area (rarely because I do my best to avoid those areas) I am not worried about that. The best defense to these types of situations is to avoid them in the first place, not go out looking to prove your strength. Otherwise, everyone would be walking around with bodyguards to protect them. We live in a civilized society with law enforcement that keeps it this way.

Not everyone can afford to avoid bad places. Sometimes to make a living they have to work in bad places where police do not show up. Those that are wealthy have neighborhoods that have police protecting them. To be live in a nice area is to "show strength". To be forced to live in bad areas is not showing "strength".

Furthermore, I have been to countries that have large wealth disparity & high crime rates such as South Africa and Brazil and I didn't see anyone walking around with bodyguards in public areas. In addition, I know, and I have witnessed people mess with guys twice their size, so just being strong isn't even a deterrent from danger either.

Well.... if you are in public places, you probably don't want to make yourself notice. Having a body guard near by, but "not seen"; that's typical. Having security near you makes you a target. They have to be hidden in plain sight.

Yes, small guys mess with big guys. But it doesn't happen a lot because small guys usually will get their butts kicked, because these guys don't have strength.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Strength alone does not guarantee survival in the scenario you described. In the challenging environment of the Congolese jungle, the prowess of even the strongest men on this forum would prove insufficient against the formidable creatures that call this ecosystem home. Mammals like hippos, elephants, chimpanzees, crocodiles, and leopards have evolved to thrive in this complex habitat, and their adaptations are far more nuanced than sheer muscle power.

It’s not just sheer muscles. Men have more discipline, are more analytical, and work better as a team when accomplishing a task. This experiment has been done already and women die to the environment when men are removed from the equation.