Are men who go to strip joints "creepy"?

[Julius_Seizeher]

Well I wouldn't consider strippers to be "creepy" per say, but they are lowlifes and scroats.

A few summers ago I dated a girl who had recently quit working as a topless dancer. She had too many scruples to get buck naked in a room of strangers, but not enough to prevent her from flaunting her magnificient, high-dollar boobs in such company. Her body was perfection, I mean pick any interchangeable pornstar you ever saw and that was her. I thought I had struck the gold mine; "She's hot enough to make three grand a night as a stripper, but she has morals too!" And she was a decently moral person.

But, our STR barely made it to the three month mark, and much to my amazement, it was I who ended it. She just had too many neurotic hangups, she smoked like a train, and she had this ****ing dog that HAD to sleep with us when I stayed at her place. The sex was the best I've ever had, mostly due to how hot she was, but even that came with a rub: she would rip the skin off my back so badly that it looked like I had slept with a wolverine. It hurt like hell and I'd wake up to that gd dog licking my wounds in the morning lolz

Anyway, I guess the point I'm making shouldn't be that big of a surprise: my topless dancer was a decent human being, but strippers are crazy vampires who drain your money and self-respect. And there are plenty of creepy men in strip clubs--the ones who have a reserved seat and blow their pensions in the place every night.

Is it creepy to hit the strip club every once in awhile? Absolutely not.

 

[Buddha_Mind]

I don't think men @ strip clubs are creepy...they are there for what they want. I've been to a few clubs a few times...I do mostly feel like I've wasted my money...and I do think most of those chicks have issues.

Ex-GF was an ex-stripper and that was a mindfvck...it revealed itself slowly...and months later she tells me how long she was a stripper for...not everything about our relationship was bad and actually I do not have any hatred towards her but I am telling you, stripping does fvck with a woman, I can vouch for this from dating an ex-stripper...it's just too much to think about.

My thoughts on strippers: enjoy em -- don't date them.

And when I really started thinking about how many men stared at her vagine, it definitely was a massive turn off.

You know the craziest thing? Any mention of mine about other women or other women being attractive incited defensiveness in her! This coming from an ex-stripper! (I'm talking light hearted talk here, I was faithful to her 100% and pushed away many other women)

Every time I've gone to a strip club too I should note was because of female scarcity...and all I did was feel cheapened and broke in the end...IDK if I'll ever go back in one...I've got some resentment towards this whole arena mentally due to my ex. [although realistically I will probably get over this in time and will likely go to a strip club again].

BUT I'd rather enjoy a woman's company and enjoy a woman's body on my own time...and I disagree that men "pay for sex anyways"...I've been laid before with very little effort and maybe $7 for a bottle of wine....

Let's be honest--there is nothing wrong with enjoying the sight of naked women...but a strip club is capitalizing on your testosterone and your money and a lot of those chicks really do have issues, many lacking father figures, many clinging to alpha males to try and replace that aspect of father....

I could ramble on, but no I don't think the guys are creepy, and I don't understand why a woman who is bouncing her breasts around for all to see are surprised that men "only" want sex from her because it's so "creepy"...IMHO this woman is not in law for a reason and it may relate to her intelligence...

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Julius, just read your post and I agree a lot of what you are saying. My ex-gf ex-stripper was not a bad human being! We jived in a lot of ways to make it 8 months! But she had a lot neurotic hangups and control issues! She had many sex issues (psychological)! Our sex was good in the beginning because of her attractiveness, but she wasn't anything that special! She's just a person and was in a rough place and used her beauty to capitalize...fine...but do I think I deserve something better? Oh Yes.

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I truly want to say this woman I was with had many many good qualities. She did. I'm not just saying that because of AFC-relapse or lovey-dovey **** -- I did care about her greatly -- but honestly you have to understand an ex-stripper is an AW deeply engrained...and you have to be comfortable with this...her self-value was built very heavily on her body...she knew she was hot and she knew she could do/have/manipulate things because of it....blagh...just too much for a man to deal with I'm telling you, not a good woman for a family or as a wife..."damaged goods" she described herself as...I do not think strippers are bad people, I do know if I had a daughter I would be very sad if she chose this as her definition of herself...I do think many strippers have low-self esteem, I do think many have issues, are manipulating you and have been manipulated...in some ways their backgrounds bring them to this place (and their choices), so it may not be a conscious thing, it is merely their reality...it was a lack of options and necessity that brought her to stripping, there was some feminine pride of being "sexually liberated" she touted on...but to me it was an indication of low-value, because she'd been with so many guys, had in my mind, very little self-respect, and she had a lot of emotional numbness...an inability to feel things...she would state this directly (this post draws out so many obvious red flags despite my mental pain I am very glad I am not with her no babies nothing) but really...stripping...enjoy...don't spend too much...don't date them! Don't take them seriously!