Are Dating Apps really that bad right now

[CornbreadFed]

I haven't been on the apps in over 2 years, so I haven't experienced any of the BS recently. However, I was getting lucky off the apps from the beginning stages of Tinder and basically lived off the apps until 2 years ago. I found it hard to believe that men could suffer on the apps because I had success, and I even saw normie men have success of it. Most of the men that couldn't get laid off apps were just over-entitled incels that were either lying on the internet to gain attention or just suffered from self-sabotage. The other cases were guys that simply aged out of their dating prime times in the apps and thought that dating would always be like they were in their twenties. Sorry, your average stable minded 18–27-year-old girl is not going to be interested in some 30 plus guy that has nothing to bring to the table other than his penis. Aside from all this, are the dating apps literally unusable or just full of more men with victim mindsets?

 

[jamesfromhouston]

I haven't been on the apps in over 2 years, so I haven't experienced any of the BS recently. However, I was getting lucky off the apps from the beginning stages of Tinder and basically lived off the apps until 2 years ago. I found it hard to believe that men could suffer on the apps because I had success, and I even saw normie men have success of it. Most of the men that couldn't get laid off apps were just over-entitled incels that were either lying on the internet to gain attention or just suffered from self-sabotage. The other cases were guys that simply aged out of their dating prime times in the apps and thought that dating would always be like they were in their twenties. Sorry, your average stable minded 18–27-year-old girl is not going to be interested in some 30 plus guy that has nothing to bring to the table other than his penis. Aside from all this, are the dating apps literally unusable or just full of more men with victim mindsets?

As someone who has used all the dating apps over the past 10 years, the short answer is: yes.

The long but concise answer, yes because:
- app women are becoming more entitled year on year (perhaps the abundance + critical mass of bp men and simps on dating app)
- it's hard to screen the looks of app women nowadays because photo filter tech has improved so much
- the amount of catfishes, fake accounts, gold diggers, time wasters have increased
- app women are much more jaded now because of all the f-ckboys, players and just general fem culture nowadays
- in addition to being jaded, when you meet them, app women seem and feel so ran through
- *a recent trend I've noticed with app women is the formation of social media groups where they screenshot and share profiles and "tea" about each guy, which plays into the entitlement but may also lead to "man hating" for those of us who are successful on dating apps

(The above has just been my direct experience + fyi I've even paid for premium services over the years).

I've been getting much less matches and/or matches that stop replying or just ghost in recent years. I still get lays from dating apps occasionally but the results have DEFINITELY decreased over the years despite the objective increase in my own SMV (health, looks, job, finance, etc).

Edit: I should add I noticed that a lot of women have also gone off dating apps, especially attractive ones, even the women are getting tired of dating apps.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Too many stereotypes and cliches have been established and both sexes are starting to tire of it

Hyper critical women with impossible standards and men who want to make as little effort as possible to get laid

They're quickly becoming something thats embarrassing to be on and I think give it a few more years and an attitude of

" I wouldn't be seen dead on them " may very well start to become mainstream

once we get too that point its game over for the apps in the traditional sense anyway , I think a lot will need to quickly pivot their business models into speed dating or singles events

Its already starting to happen in some areas

 

[parabellum]

Last week I saw a flyer about a singles mixer in the gym front desk, of all places. It’s a good omen, related to what is said above by Bingo. That, and the fact that for a woman that is reasonably attractive, the time spend in filtering among the hundreds of men in an app actually takes a toll in terms of time and effort. I’ve even seen attractive women delegate their app jobs to less attractive female friends.

 

[BPH]

As someone who has used all the dating apps over the past 10 years, the short answer is: yes.

The long but concise answer, yes because:
- app women are becoming more entitled year on year (perhaps the abundance + critical mass of bp men and simps on dating app)
- it's hard to screen the looks of app women nowadays because photo filter tech has improved so much
- the amount of catfishes, fake accounts, gold diggers, time wasters have increased
- app women are much more jaded now because of all the f-ckboys, players and just general fem culture nowadays
- in addition to being jaded, when you meet them, app women seem and feel so ran through
- *a recent trend I've noticed with app women is the formation of social media groups where they screenshot and share profiles and "tea" about each guy, which plays into the entitlement but may also lead to "man hating" for those of us who are successful on dating apps

(The above has just been my direct experience + fyi I've even paid for premium services over the years).

I've been getting much less matches and/or matches that stop replying or just ghost in recent years. I still get lays from dating apps occasionally but the results have DEFINITELY decreased over the years despite the objective increase in my own SMV (health, looks, job, finance, etc).

Edit: I should add I noticed that a lot of women have also gone off dating apps, especially attractive ones, even the women are getting tired of dating apps.

This pretty much hits the nail on the head.

Tinder was a big deal starting my sophomore year in college, and people understood that it was "the hookup app", and were ok with that.

Now there's a lot of entitlement because every right swipe for a woman is a match, while dudes are right-swiping everybody hoping for a match.

A lot of the women I swipe on nowadays are bots, fake accounts, or just not attractive - even in population hubs like New York when I visited my brother on my birthday I didn't have a whole lot of girls that I thought were good-looking on there. I bought Tinder Gold for that weekend and could see who was swiping on me and not a single girl was attractive...not one.

Now we have the 4B movement popping up so it's likely to get even worse for a little while. I'd heard somebody say that Instagram is the best dating app, and I'd agree with that statement. The problem there is that people are more concerned with APPEARING fun, interesting, and wealthy than actually being any of those things - a testament to the fact that it is now a legitimate business to sell time in a stationary jet taking pictures as if you're a "baller" traveling the world private.

Personally, I'm annoyed at how disingenuous it all is.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Personally, I'm annoyed at how disingenuous it all is.

Why? You didn't see this coming?

 

[BPH]

Why? You didn't see this coming?

I'm not surprised, but that doesn't mean I can't still be disappointed by it.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I'm not surprised, but that doesn't mean I can't still be disappointed by it.

If you want to save on disappointments, learn to live without expectations.

 

[BPH]

If you want to save on disappointments, learn to live without expectations.

Oh, I've preached time and time again that when it comes to dating apps, have no expectations and occasionally be pleasantly surprised. I've been pleasantly surprised plenty of times. Doesn't mean I suggest investing time, money, and effort into it compared to in-person.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Oh, I've preached time and time again that when it comes to dating apps, have no expectations and occasionally be pleasantly surprised. I've been pleasantly surprised plenty of times. Doesn't mean I suggest investing time, money, and effort into it compared to in-person.

In my opinion, skewed as it is, dating apps should only be used as a supplement, not as the main method to find women. However, I was raised before the internet, when 'dating apps' were 'classified ads' in the newspaper and were only used by the desperate.

The current dependence on dating apps, especially (as it seems) in the US, is a deplorable development that increases social isolation and dependency on tech-based mating methods. Just like 'social media' isn't social at all, dating apps rarely bring sustainable relationships.

And most women I consider attractive are not interested in dating through apps anyway. Like me, they consider it a last resort for the desperate and the lonely, who get financially abused by the dating app companies giving them hope in return for expensive subscriptions.