Are child molesters just super AFC's?

[Inquisitus]

Well I'm assuming it was outlawed because minors are 'too young to make up their own mind'? Which KIND OF makes sense; way more sense than making it illegal to simply possess at least.

Do you really think making child porn illegal stops the entire supply? L O L

Make it all illegal so you can punish whoever has it. It's that abhorrent to the majority of people ACROSS cultures. That's logical and i agree with it.

Do i think it stops supply? No, but that's why there's the punishment factor.

Wait, are you saying people that are attracted to younger children are most likely to be the people that molest them? NO WAI I also heard that most overage girls that are molested are by people who are attracted to overage females!

Glad you think it's damn obvious.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Tazman, I totally agree with your post on page 1.

After hitting rock bottom and coming close to suicide this person has completely changed their life around but can barely survive because of the lack of job opportunities and the embarrassment of having to register as an offender so pretty much everyone knows.

See it's really about totally destroying the male. After they serve their time, they are hopeless because they are still blacklisted-ecomomically, socially and even where they can reside. It is a life sentence really. They even do this to males as young as 18 years of age who had (consensual to the girl) sexual relations with a 15 year old girl. Heck, now you can become an almost lifetime registered "sexual offender" plus prison time for just chatting sexually to a 14-15 girl, except the "girl" is not even really a girl but some fat 40 cop running a sting and trying to entrap you.

I'm not saying pedophilia is normal, I've said it isn't just like many other socially accepted sexual disorders are not, but you can't tell me that it is more about demonizing male sexuality and witch hunting. Like you said, no one is trying to help the male who has problems. Most of society is nitpicking males waiting for them to falter or even trumping up stuff to basically do them in. Whenever I hear most people talk about pedophilia or rape etc, I can tell they are brainwashed by PC/mainstream propaganda.

 

[Inquisitus]

Like I said having pedophila desires is abnormal just like homosexuality, or as someone else mentioned having fetishes. It doesn't make the desire worse or better in itself just because of consent or not. Funny how it's OK to be gay but it's the worse thing in the world to be a pedophile.

If a guy desires a kid but doesn't act on it ever, that's fine (well, they'd probably be ordered to a shrink). Once they act on it, then that's the problem.

The difference is that with pedophilia, you can **** up a child when actions are taken. A child wouldn't be able to comprehend having to conduct sexual acts. With homosexuality, both sides understand what's going on and have a choice about it.

 

[bigjohnson]

People are on the sex offender registry for public urination. Mooning a carload of coeds. Etc.

 

[Inquisitus]

nvm

 

[bigjohnson]

Boinking a 4 year old and boinking an overdeveloped 14 year old are fundamentally different things and while we might decide they are both 'wrong' it's foolish to try and lump them together. A drunk that whips his **** onto the counter at the 7-11 when the cashier asks for proof of age is even still a third thing.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Boinking a 4 year old and boinking an overdeveloped 14 year old are fundamentally different things and while we might decide they are both 'wrong' it's foolish to try and lump them together. A drunk that whips his **** onto the counter at the 7-11 when the cashier asks for proof of age is even still a third thing.

Exactly. They should be considered different things but they aren't and are being all lumped together under a "save the innocent children" pretext for busting males' balls.

 

[rocksoff]

I think it just a psychological 'problem' in which people are extremely attracted to children AND have a strong uncontrollable psychological urge to have sex with these children, like a fetish. People can be attracted to all sorts of weird **** (feet, scat, etc.) so it's no surprise that people can be attracted to pre-pubescent children.

Child porn shouldn't be illegal to possess btw. It's just plain retarded and anyone who supports that view needs to rethink their fail morals and stop listening to the brainwashing media so much. Producing it is another issue and should probably be outlawed but as we know the law isn't going to stop things especially amateur children leaking onto the internet. Yes it is 'fvcked up' to think that people would fap over children but who are you to judge what they are attracted to? Plus I would estimate about 0.1% of people who have child porn on their computer are actually child molesters. Do you hear millions of people crying because some people are attracted to feet and fap to it? Nope. Looking at child porn or even masturbating over it is completely different to going out onto the streets and preying on random young children.

Beastiality is illegal too in some countries... how dumb is that? Who really gives a crap if the guy down the street is watching a dog fvcking some chick from behind? Moralfags that's who.

I dont's think so man...you sound like a fvckin closet creep right there.
18+ and no animals, if youre looking for different, seriously get some help

 

[katatonia]

I dont's think so man...you sound like a fvckin closet creep right there.
18+ and no animals, if youre looking for different, seriously get some help

18 is just some arbitrary number chosen by the government which idiots like yourself mistake for some number 'chosen by God'. I've seen full blown HB10 14, 15, 16 year old hotties before so obviously nature didn't intend for '18' to be some magical number where showing sex with girls of that age becomes 'ok'. I would rather watch a hot 14 year old getting boned in porn than some 30 year old past-her-prime saggy titted 'MILF'. And I'd rather have sex with the 14 year old IRL too, does that make me a child molester because I breached the magical number given by the law?

Animals on the other hand I would definitely not have sex with but as I said if some guy or girl down the street gets off over that and wants to watch it or even have sex with his/her own dog or whatever then I have no problem with that and it is none of my (or your) business really.

Stop trying to push your morals onto others especially when you are severely lacking in logic and haven't even revised your own morals thoroughly.

 

[rocksoff]

18 is just some arbitrary number chosen by the government which idiots like yourself mistake for some number 'chosen by God'. I've seen full blown HB10 14, 15, 16 year old hotties before so obviously nature didn't intend for '18' to be some magical number where showing sex with girls of that age becomes 'ok'. I would rather watch a hot 14 year old getting boned in porn than some 30 year old past-her-prime saggy titted 'MILF'. And I'd rather have sex with the 14 year old IRL too, does that make me a child molester because I breached the magical number given by the law?

Animals on the other hand I would definitely not have sex with but as I said if some guy or girl down the street gets off over that and wants to watch it or even have sex with his/her own dog or whatever then I have no problem with that and it is none of my (or your) business really.

Stop trying to push your morals onto others especially when you are severely lacking in logic and haven't even revised your own morals thoroughly.

18 sounds good to me man......have fun with your HB10 14 year old's and watching the guy down the street fvck his dog
yer fvckin nasty dude im 20 years old and i would be fvckin disgusted by 16 year olds tryin to get down........i hope you end up on To Catch a Predator for pursuing your HB10 14-16 old's that you obv have on your mind way too much....."nature didnt intend" lol PEDO ALERT AMBER ALERT

 

[katatonia]

18 sounds good to me man......have fun with your HB10 14 year old's and watching the guy down the street fvck his dog

Dude you're so fvcking dumb. 18 DOESN'T MEAN SH1T IT'S JUST A FVCKING NUMBER. "Oh that girl has lived long enough for the Earth to rotate the Sun 18 times, therefore she is able to be fvcked without my morals getting in the way hehe!"

yer fvckin nasty dude im 20 years old and i would be fvckin disgusted by 16 year olds tryin to get down........i hope you end up on To Catch a Predator for pursuing your HB10 14-16 old's that you obv have on your mind way too much....."nature didnt intend" lol PEDO ALERT AMBER ALERT

Fact: 16 year old hotties usually look around 18 anyway.

Btw stop trying to use shaming language/tactics on me just because they worked on your dumb ass...

 

[WaterTiger]

18 old guy has consensual sex with his 16 year old girlfriend?
Misdemeanor! No lasting effects!

45 year old guy makes friends with, meets & has sex with a 13 year old girl?
Take him out behind the barn and shoot him.

A 45 year old man has so much more experience & can play with the young girls mind. That's what the laws are about, keeping very impressionable young girls out of the hands of men who will exploit them.

Let's not forget that pedophiles also go after little boys. Men that are MARRIED with families are still drawn to young boys...not men.

Just a few generations back, it was common for 14 year old girls to be married off to start families. Their husbands were usually men in their 20's ot 30's. They did just fine.

The thing is that they were in a stable (divorce was rare if allowed at all) marriage. Not sleeping with 5 or 10 guys before they were 18, like is all too common now. Having sex too young is bad for you. Some people are mature enough to handle it, some aren't. They set the age at 18, figuring everyone should be of the level of maturity to make the decision.

 

[Stagger Lee]

45 year old guy makes friends with, meets & has sex with a 13 year old girl?
Take him out behind the barn and shoot him.

Typical of a woman finding it so offensive that even at age 45 a man can still be most attracted to a girl who is 13-16 just like he was in high school. Who do you think is now making all the social rules and laws? They all come from the female feminist mentality and serve as security for the feminine.

Age is just a number and a construct. If manipulation and taking the advantage is the criteria, then just about all women should be, "taken behind the barn and shot".

 

[bigjohnson]

18 old guy has consensual sex with his 16 year old girlfriend?
Misdemeanor! No lasting effects!

I can't even really start to decide how many different fundamental ways this "thought process" is broken. I'm just gonna note that it's got terminal cancer and move on.

45 year old guy makes friends with, meets & has sex with a 13 year old girl?
Take him out behind the barn and shoot him.

Hilarious and transparent way to pull the old fallacy out of the hat. But I saw what you did there. So I ask, if the guy is say, 40, and the girl is 16, as she was in the previous example, then what?

Ooooh, that's soooo creepy.

A 45 year old man has so much more experience & can play with the young girls mind. That's what the laws are about, keeping very impressionable young girls out of the hands of men who will exploit them.

Blah blah men are bad blah blah they like sex with young women and not older crones blah blah blah ......

Just a few generations back, it was common for 14 year old girls to be married off to start families. Their husbands were usually men in their 20's ot 30's. They did just fine.

So now it's OK for a 30 year old guy to boink a 14 year old, and we're not shooting him? Did we run short of bullets? Or we saved them for the shotgun wedding, did we? Abortionists use the logic that it's better to prevent an unwanted child than to have them grow up neglected, but here when it comes to a marriage contract I guess any marriage is better than none? Just marry the first guy she's taken with and it'll all be fine?

The thing is that they were in a stable (divorce was rare if allowed at all) marriage. Not sleeping with 5 or 10 guys before they were 18, like is all too common now.

Please cite your source. The numbers I saw were more like a half dozen partners in their LIFE for American women. This sort of "logic" makes me wonder what number of partners is not "bad for you" if you're under some magic arbitrary age.

Having sex too young is bad for you. Some people are mature enough to handle it, some aren't. They set the age at 18, figuring everyone should be of the level of maturity to make the decision.

OK, who set "IT" at 18, hmmm? Do you have any clue WTF you're blathering on about, or do you just try to make pleasant noises?

http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm

 

[Da Realist]

Ok, I'm going to weigh in on it: child molesters are ****ed up. If they are attracted to kids who haven't even developed yet physically or mentally, they have to be emotionally stunted somewhere. I have worked with kids all the way to high school and have younger kids around in my life; nothing they say is just that captivating. Why? I've been in the real world, so all the talking they do is comes down to "been there, done that."

As far as the whole "overdeveloped" child thing goes, I think usually it comes from guys who don't have kids. All I know is I had a hand in raising some in my life and I wouldn't let some 20 year old and up guy come to pick up a girl I've seen crawling around in diapers. Same would go for a boy because I know that nothing that kid can say would interest someone that old. In fact, they're around because they see some overdeveloped kid they can take advantage of. They can either have a female they can keep in the house all the time that will do whatever they want or a male that can't dominate them.

 

[PappyS]

In your head, being a killer is fine but molesting is bad?

Most people don't have the screw loose in their head that enables them to kill another human just because they feel like it.

The reason regular people don't indulge their urges to beat every a-hole they meet into a bloody pulp is because it would inconvenience their lives. In jail people are already inconvenienced so they can do what they want.

Relatively decent people locked up for b.s. crimes get brutalized in the worst way by psychopathic guards and prisoners all the time. So if a really despicable person, like a sadistic power-hungry pedophile who tortures young children who did nothing to him, were to get it, then it isn't a big deal.

As far as the whole "overdeveloped" child thing goes, I think usually it comes from guys who don't have kids. All I know is I had a hand in raising some in my life and I wouldn't let some 20 year old and up guy come to pick up a girl I've seen crawling around in diapers. Same would go for a boy because I know that nothing that kid can say would interest someone that old. In fact, they're around because they see some overdeveloped kid they can take advantage of. They can either have a female they can keep in the house all the time that will do whatever they want or a male that can't dominate them.

Some of underage teenagers like to hang around older people or adult venues and do adult things. Let's say a physically mature 17 year old boy goes to a strip club and lies about his age. Then he pays a 24 year old stripper to "molest" him. You can't exactly call the stripper a pedophile. The same thing applies to girls. If girls are physically developed and impersonating adults in adult venues then grown men will sleep with them. Don't let your well-developed kids be in adult situations and then cry "pedophile" when adults have sex with them.

 

[Poonani Maker]

What if "she tells you she's 18" and you hit it, and she turns out Not to be 18, but 16, and then rats you out, and now, you, as a hated MALE in society, have to defend yourself to the death, while only this non-consensual underage incapable-of-making-a-decision-for-herself female has to maintain her LIE?

What then??

 

[penkitten]

when most of us think child molester, we are thinking of someone molesting a small innocent child , not some 16 yr old girl that is old enough to have children.

 

[bigjohnson]

when most of us think child molester, we are thinking of someone molesting a small innocent child , not some 16 yr old girl that is old enough to have children.

I couldn't agree more, unfortunately that's not the way 'sexual offender' laws are generally written. I knew a rather unsavory individual once who, when he was drunk off his ass and buying more beer at the age of 23 in a 7-11, was asked for proof he was over 21. He unzipped his pants and flopped his **** out "does this look under 21 to you?"

While I'm not condoning this idiocy, I don't think he deserves to be a 'registered sex offender' for the rest of his life either.

Drawing "the criminal line" at 18 is IMO way to far into making a nanny State and absolving parents of their responsibilities. I'd rather see the law only get involved in more extreme cases and let parents, their older kids, and the civil system be enabled to sort the rest out, perhaps.

 

[squirrels]

Molesting children has nothing to do with "AFC" or "DJ".

Come on, man.