Are child molesters just super AFC's?

[MatureDJ]

I was wondering. I was reading about how Louisiana will be executing a child molester today (the first execution in 7 years.) The condemned was a child molester.

It seems that child molesting is a somewhat natural evolutionary trait of securing a very young woman (i.e., who will eventually grow into a proper, older fertile woman.) For men who are not at high enough status to attract a woman at a more proper age, attracting a younger one (or securing one through her parents, etc.) is a way to keep the genetic line going. IOW, a child molester does not see a girl as a girl, but simply as a future woman.

The benefits of pursuing a young woman have been expoused here many times. Many folks have commented that the best age for a woman is at the age of consent (or majority, whatever the case may be), after which time, it's all downhill. Indeed, only a few generations ago, it was common in Western society for a woman to be married off as soon as she reached sexual maturity (i.e., puberty), or even before. It is still common in many non-Western societies, and in some Religious sects in Western society such as the fundamentalist Mormons. Heck, even Jerry Lee Lewis married a 13 year old! Of course, I would think that all these societies at least demand the permission of the girl's parents to being wed.

Obviously irregardless of what impulses exist in a man to pursue very young women, modern Western Society has set up a culture in which it is very much frowned upon for a man to have a young woman - illegal in the case of below the age of consent, and even frowned upon from an ethical POV for a man that's considered too old for a coed, etc. [I'm thinking of the chick that has children from 4 different men (including a convict) that posts (or used to post) here, and has said that she would not want a 35 y.o. man dating her 18 y.o. daughter.] I wonder if the reason that child molesters that kill do so to lash out at society, since they are angry that they cannot get a regular woman (of sufficient mating value), and cannot go down to a young enough woman (that they could have in prior generations) because of society's rules (of course, they could do be doing it just to silence the witness.)

 

[Luthor Rex]

It seems that child molesting is a somewhat natural evolutionary trait of securing a very young woman (i.e., who will eventually grow into a proper, older fertile woman.) For men who are not at high enough status to attract a woman at a more proper age, attracting a younger one (or securing one through her parents, etc.) is a way to keep the genetic line going. IOW, a child molester does not see a girl as a girl, but simply as a future woman.

Sounds good in theory, not sure how much it stacks up in practice. I've read creepy "true crime" stories about men who captured little girls and would under-feed them so that their bodies wouldn't grow and they would keep their 'little girl looks' longer.

Maybe some are looking to secure a future bride, but I'm guessing most are just creepy fvcks.

 

[bigjohnson]

It seems that child molesting is a somewhat natural evolutionary trait of securing a very young woman .... a child molester does not see a girl as a girl, but simply as a future woman.

I doubt it. A true full on pedo will drop the girl was soon as she starts to look womanly and get a new one, in this case the girl was 8, so not a "young woman" by any measure, although probably at the upper range of true pedo land.

For other 'crimes' where the woman is sexually mature but 'too young', it's the term pedo that's being perverted to refer to something else.

 

[Trader]

I was wondering. I was reading about how Louisiana will be executing a child molester today (the first execution in 7 years.) The condemned was a child molester.

It seems that child molesting is a somewhat natural evolutionary trait of securing a very young woman (i.e., who will eventually grow into a proper, older fertile woman.) For men who are not at high enough status to attract a woman at a more proper age, attracting a younger one (or securing one through her parents, etc.) is a way to keep the genetic line going. IOW, a child molester does not see a girl as a girl, but simply as a future woman.

I think most child molesters are frustrated and just can't get girls so they just molest. Same thing with rapists.

The benefits of pursuing a young woman have been expoused here many times. Many folks have commented that the best age for a woman is at the age of consent (or majority, whatever the case may be), after which time, it's all downhill. Indeed, only a few generations ago, it was common in Western society for a woman to be married off as soon as she reached sexual maturity (i.e., puberty), or even before. It is still common in many non-Western societies, and in some Religious sects in Western society such as the fundamentalist Mormons. Heck, even Jerry Lee Lewis married a 13 year old! Of course, I would think that all these societies at least demand the permission of the girl's parents to being wed.

I have seen some really hot teenage girls and would consider dating young girls (girls below 18).

But there really is a big difference between a 13 year old girl and like an 8 year old girl. Even back in historical times, girls would wait until at least near the start of adolescence to get married off.

 

[Julius_Seizeher]

It's beyond AFC, they are perverted. Like the guy who shoots himself over a girl, their problems run much deeper.

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear All,
I believe Men who would seek their gratification with children are those who find it difficult to have a relationship with someone their own age and are trying to recreate previously satisfying adventures from their childhood.In keeping with Kiplings Idea that the female is the deadlier of the species,our Predeluvian ancestors would leave the punishment of child molestors to their "Ladies".
Many would rationalise the popularity of homosexuality amongst Britains ruling class,on the fashion for sending young Men away to boarding schools,which are breeding grounds for Sodomy,.If a Mans first experience was with another man and if his background makes a "Normal" relationship with a Woman difficult,then he may well turn to his own sex,in later life.

 

[Inquisitus]

Lack of sex leads to all sorts of perversions: pedos, mass murderers, rapists.

The game is saving lives.

Are you fukkin' serious? There's something wrong in the head of a pedo, mass murderer, or rapist.

 

[Inquisitus]

I was wondering. I was reading about how Louisiana will be executing a child molester today (the first execution in 7 years.) The condemned was a child molester.

It seems that child molesting is a somewhat natural evolutionary trait of securing a very young woman (i.e., who will eventually grow into a proper, older fertile woman.) For men who are not at high enough status to attract a woman at a more proper age, attracting a younger one (or securing one through her parents, etc.) is a way to keep the genetic line going. IOW, a child molester does not see a girl as a girl, but simply as a future woman.

The benefits of pursuing a young woman have been expoused here many times. Many folks have commented that the best age for a woman is at the age of consent (or majority, whatever the case may be), after which time, it's all downhill. Indeed, only a few generations ago, it was common in Western society for a woman to be married off as soon as she reached sexual maturity (i.e., puberty), or even before. It is still common in many non-Western societies, and in some Religious sects in Western society such as the fundamentalist Mormons. Heck, even Jerry Lee Lewis married a 13 year old! Of course, I would think that all these societies at least demand the permission of the girl's parents to being wed.

Obviously irregardless of what impulses exist in a man to pursue very young women, modern Western Society has set up a culture in which it is very much frowned upon for a man to have a young woman - illegal in the case of below the age of consent, and even frowned upon from an ethical POV for a man that's considered too old for a coed, etc. [I'm thinking of the chick that has children from 4 different men (including a convict) that posts (or used to post) here, and has said that she would not want a 35 y.o. man dating her 18 y.o. daughter.] I wonder if the reason that child molesters that kill do so to lash out at society, since they are angry that they cannot get a regular woman (of sufficient mating value), and cannot go down to a young enough woman (that they could have in prior generations) because of society's rules (of course, they could do be doing it just to silence the witness.)

Historically, women have married as young as 13. However, note that by that age, women go through puberty AND people live much shorter lives prior to the modern period.

Personally, I'd question the judgment of a 23+ year old wanting a girl that's 13 - 16. Anything over that (well, maybe 17-18) is fair game.

Going pre-pubescent is rightly a criminal act. That's just disgusting.

Molesters kill the child because they've done two criminal acts, the molesting and usually kidnapping. What's a third if it's the only chance at getting away?

 

[penkitten]

i do not believe that child molesters are afc's.
here are some reasons:

1. afc is short for average frustrated chump.
child molesters are not average guys, and average guys are not child molesters.
an average guy would never hurt a woman because he is having a hard time scoring. he may be frustrated, he may whine about it and he may become jaded.... but instead of hurting someone, he would probably go to a strip club, get an escort or follow some ljbf chick around.

whereas a child molester is messed up in the head and doesn't think on the average brain wave of fellow man.

2. lots of child molesters are married. so therefore, they can get women and aren't desperate. (whether they really get off on what a small child looks like or causing them pain or just having control over another person.... who knows, i'm not qualified to say....)

i don't even want to get into the whole, what percentage of child molesters kill their victims debate.

i just don't think that it would be very fair to classify sick nasty child molesters as normal average frustrated guys who just haven't learned how to be smooth with the ladies yet.

 

[Stagger Lee]

I think child molesters-bona fide ones who are interested in prepubescent girls and not just the PC definition of being attracted to anyone under 16 or so. Do have a disorder basically similar to any other sexual disorder like homosexual, or the various other ones. Why they have this disorder is probably some combination of nature (poor development) and a bad enviroment (nurture).

What irks me about this, putting aside the age and consent thing, is how the mainstream argues homosexual behavior is basically "normal" and that pedophilia and rape is the worst thing in the world. I do not agree with that at all like most things PC. If they are executing pedophiles who have not killed anyone then it seems like Salem witch-hunting type mentality.

Let me give another example, if you are caught with "child" pornography that may have even been produced somewhere else where it is legal then they throw the book at you. But you are allowed to have all kinds of violent and other types of video which I won't even mention the types. Sometimes I think the people who prosecute child molesters are bigger perverts than the pedophiles.

Back to the question, I do think there is an element of AFC in pedophilia, just like there is an element of AFC in homosexuality.

 

[Inquisitus]

What irks me about this, putting aside the age and consent thing, is how the mainstream argues homosexual behavior is basically "normal" and that pedophilia and rape is the worst thing in the world. I do not agree with that at all like most things PC. If they are executing pedophiles who have not killed anyone then it seems like Salem witch-hunting type mentality.

Pedophilia does not have the murder sentence in NA. The guy probably killed his target.

Homosexuality is consensual. That's their business.

Let me give another example, if you are caught with "child" pornography that may have even been produced somewhere else where it is legal then they throw the book at you. But you are allowed to have all kinds of violent and other types of video which I won't even mention the types. Sometimes I think the people who prosecute child molesters are bigger perverts than the pedophiles.

Possession of child pornography itself is illegal regardless of whether the material was legal in the region of production. They throw the book at you because it's a universally despicable act.

Back to the question, I do think there is an element of AFC in pedophilia, just like there is an element of AFC in homosexuality.

You gotta be attracted to pre-pubescent girls (or boys) to be a pedophile. Normal people are not sexually attracted to pre-pubescent people. Having pedophilia is separate from being an AFC.

 

[katatonia]

I think it just a psychological 'problem' in which people are extremely attracted to children AND have a strong uncontrollable psychological urge to have sex with these children, like a fetish. People can be attracted to all sorts of weird **** (feet, scat, etc.) so it's no surprise that people can be attracted to pre-pubescent children.

Child porn shouldn't be illegal to possess btw. It's just plain retarded and anyone who supports that view needs to rethink their fail morals and stop listening to the brainwashing media so much. Producing it is another issue and should probably be outlawed but as we know the law isn't going to stop things especially amateur children leaking onto the internet. Yes it is 'fvcked up' to think that people would fap over children but who are you to judge what they are attracted to? Plus I would estimate about 0.1% of people who have child porn on their computer are actually child molesters. Do you hear millions of people crying because some people are attracted to feet and fap to it? Nope. Looking at child porn or even masturbating over it is completely different to going out onto the streets and preying on random young children.

Beastiality is illegal too in some countries... how dumb is that? Who really gives a crap if the guy down the street is watching a dog fvcking some chick from behind? Moralfags that's who.

 

[Inquisitus]

Child porn shouldn't be illegal to possess btw. It's just plain retarded and anyone who supports that view needs to rethink their fail morals and stop listening to the brainwashing media so much. Producing it is another issue and should probably be outlawed but as we know the law isn't going to stop things especially amateur children leaking onto the internet. Yes it is 'fvcked up' to think that people would fap over children but who are you to judge what they are attracted to?

What's the logic in possession being and production not? The whole point of those laws is to cut off supply by outlawing demand. Besides, i think producing under age porn is illegal too.

Plus I would estimate about 0.1% of people who have child porn on their computer are actually child molesters. Do you hear millions of people crying because some people are attracted to feet and fap to it? Nope. Looking at child porn or even masturbating over it is completely different to going out onto the streets and preying on random young children.

This is why child porn is rightfully banned.

From Wikipedia;

According to the Mayo Clinic, approximately 95% of child sexual abuse incidents are committed by the 88% of child molestation offenders who meet the diagnostic criteria for pedophilia.[8] A behavioral analysis report by the FBI states that a "high percentage of acquaintance child molesters are preferential sex offenders who have a true sexual preference for children (i.e., pedophiles)."[15]

Pedophilia hurts our off-springs. It doesn't get more personal than that.

 

[katatonia]

What's the logic in possession being and production not? The whole point of those laws is to cut off supply by outlawing demand. Besides, i think producing under age porn is illegal too.

Well I'm assuming it was outlawed because minors are 'too young to make up their own mind'? Which KIND OF makes sense; way more sense than making it illegal to simply possess at least.

Do you really think making child porn illegal stops the entire supply? L O L

This is why child porn is rightfully banned.

From Wikipedia;

According to the Mayo Clinic, approximately 95% of child sexual abuse incidents are committed by the 88% of child molestation offenders who meet the diagnostic criteria for pedophilia.[8] A behavioral analysis report by the FBI states that a "high percentage of acquaintance child molesters are preferential sex offenders who have a true sexual preference for children (i.e., pedophiles)."[15]

Pedophilia hurts our off-springs. It doesn't get more personal than that.

Wait, are you saying people that are attracted to younger children are most likely to be the people that molest them? NO WAI I also heard that most overage girls that are molested are by people who are attracted to overage females!

 

[Proselytiser]

Dear All,
I believe Men who would seek their gratification with children are those who find it difficult to have a relationship with someone their own age and are trying to recreate previously satisfying adventures from their childhood.In keeping with Kiplings Idea that the female is the deadlier of the species,our Predeluvian ancestors would leave the punishment of child molestors to their "Ladies".
Many would rationalise the popularity of homosexuality amongst Britains ruling class,on the fashion for sending young Men away to boarding schools,which are breeding grounds for Sodomy,.If a Mans first experience was with another man and if his background makes a "Normal" relationship with a Woman difficult,then he may well turn to his own sex,in later life.

Good points here, but I disagree that simply because a man had his first experience with another man, he will experience less success than women. In fact, in many such cases the man experiences greater success. I think it's more to do with how they were socialised in their childhood - examples abound of men who were not socialised with the opposite sex until their late teens or early 20s, and who as a result have little to no success with women due to being uncomfortable around them. Perfect example would be nerds and the guys that were neglected in high school. And these guys, I'm guessing, make up the majority of people who turn to PUA and more readily accept the teachings of it.

Does this explain paedophilia? I don't think so. That's a perversion, probably caused by early childhood experiences (the only 'cause' of paedophilia that you regularly hear about is that of the molesters having once been molested themselves), and maybe there is a genetic factor.

 

[Proselytiser]

^ I'm pretty sure that they are kept in a separate ward, for the reason that most other crims are going to be out to get them (at least, here in Aus, that is the case).

 

[Stagger Lee]

^ I'm pretty sure that they are kept in a separate ward, for the reason that most other crims are going to be out to get them (at least, here in Aus, that is the case).

I can see you don't realize what the big thing about child molesters, rape and all that is really about. They don't necessarily keep them in a separate wards. The criminal justice sytem is sadistic. The guards are inclined to spread rumors among immates more than anything. All kinds of things go on in prison like rape and violence. Imagine the irony, some criminal and immate attacks another immate because the other is a convicted rapist or pedophile.

I don't really think the system or society cares about children's mental well being. Look at the public schools and all the really worse abuse that is allowed to go on there. It's just a bunch of witch-hunting really that falls diapportionately on men. Just like is used to justify the divorce and child custody laws. The welfar of children is the pretext given, but that's not the real motivation.

Like I said having pedophila desires is abnormal just like homosexuality, or as someone else mentioned having fetishes. It doesn't make the desire worse or better in itself just because of consent or not. Funny how it's OK to be gay but it's the worse thing in the world to be a pedophile.

 

[Tazman]

Like I said having pedophila desires is abnormal just like homosexuality, or as someone else mentioned having fetishes. It doesn't make the desire worse or better in itself just because of consent or not. Funny how it's OK to be gay but it's the worse thing in the world to be a pedophile.

This is actually an interesting take on the issue, but good luck in trying to discuss this with most other people. It's a knee jerk reaction to say that a pedophile is simply an evil person.

Of course no one is saying it isn't a serious problem, I have multiple family members who were victims, and I take issue with it especially because children are so innocent, but to make exceptions for other abnormal sexual desires because they involve consenting adults doesn't make sense.

I seriously doubt that people who are sexually attracted to prepubescent kids are just normal people who are sadistic and/or evil. There's obviously something wrong with their wiring, but no one cares, we'll just kill them and/or ostracize them.

I may be biased because one of my family members was convicted of this crime. This person also had this done to them when they were young, but no one cares about the history or the reasons why. After hitting rock bottom and coming close to suicide this person has completely changed their life around but can barely survive because of the lack of job opportunities and the embarrassment of having to register as an offender so pretty much everyone knows.

With that said, I don't the think mindset of a pedophile has anything to do with being an AFC.

*Don't get me wrong though, if I had a kid who was molested by someone I'd probably want to kill them myself, but I don't see them as inhuman. I see them as mentally ill people, much like people who are into other extreme fetishes.

 

[mrRuckus]

No, pedophiles don't get the death penalty here. But if I was in jail with an accused real pedophile who rubbed me the wrong way and was smaller/weaker then me I'd beat him in the face until the blood started to splatter.

In your head, being a killer is fine but molesting is bad?

Most people don't have the screw loose in their head that enables them to kill another human just because they feel like it.

 

[Tazman]

Do you realize how much lack of sex messes up a MAN's head? You do realize that most catholic priests become pedos because of the restriction on their sexuality.

So I guess it would be totally out of the question for them to have chosen their line of work because they knew they would be exposed to little kids in an intimate way, which their position gives them easy access to?