Are all women bad?

[Blackdon]

To set the record straight, I am not a feminist
To set the record straight again, I am not an advocate of AFCism
To set the record straight again, I am not here for a popularity contest. I will speak my mind as I please and I will not be intimidated by any Militant attacks and critisms to my views and opinions.
I am here to bring some objectivity and open mindedness to the forum. The mature members of the forum will stand behind me, when I strongly suggest that men are partly to blame for their problems with women.

I understand the fact that most men on this forum have a painful past with Women. They were either painfully rejected or dumped, and they have carried this bitterness with them, to the extent that they don't want to listen to any objective views and opinions.

This brings me to the Question I want to raise. Are all women bad? Most 'Men' come to this forum and make blanket accusations about women, without being sure of exactly what type of women they are talking about.I would like to clarify on this.

There are two catagories of women:The Good ones and the Bad ones.The good ones are the giving,caring,loving and understanding ones. The bad women on the other hand are the callous, abusive, manuplative and selfish ones. And most of the embittered 'Don Juans' are here because of the latter. I know some people are going to raise their voices in protest to this and shout. "women are the same." This is partly true and partly wrong. It is partly true because women have exhibited universal behaviour. And partly wrong because women come from different political, social and Economic backgrounds; because of this therefore,we can not afford to generalise.

Some women are initially good. So some unscroplous men take advantage of these good women and abuse them in relationships. Because most of these women are loving,submissive, caring,giving and unselfish, men naturally take them for granted, use them and dump them. It is just natural for people to take advantage of nice people whether men or women. This creates a Female version of Average Frustrated Chics, who have learnt their lessons about men the hard way. These are the women who have their scores to settle with men. And should they land on AFC men they vent out all their revenge on them hence the bitterness that is poured out on this forum.

Where I come from, we have a saying that as you point a finger of accusation at some one, the other four finger are pointing at you. So as we come here to point fingers at women we should know that the other four fingers are pointing at us.

I don't want to be misunderstood here.I am not advocating for meekness and supplicant behaviour in our interactions with women. This should never suffice, for a true man is supposed to have a back bone, is supposed to lead, to be in control,in charge and to be confident in relationships.And not just in man to woman relationships,but also in man to man relationships. Short of this he will not be happy,because he will be taken advantage of and he will become everybody's door mat. Unfortunately the so many men here who have memorised methods and techiniques of how to be a Man only act on them in situations where they are with women, and when they get to interacting with fellow men they go back to their spineless behaviour. Be a man at all times even when you are sleep.

Unfortunately these 'scripted men' if I am to borrow Pook's Words, think to succeed with women they have got to be mean and abusive. Which is WRONG. As men we shouldnot be abusive just for the sake of being abusive. To avoid this we should learn to be assertive and not aggressive, and we should learn to communicate our boundaries with a tough voice. And whoever can't respect our boundaries, man or woman should be done away with; Without resorting to abuse.Agressiveness should only be turned to when all options of force by peaceful means have been exhausted. It is only through genuinly accomplishng this that we can come here and claim to be real men.

 

[horaholic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmddrHpTomI
The Cramps: All women are bad.

Best song EVER.

BTW, R.I.P. Lux Interior (the lead singer, who died of heart disease four days ago.)

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Looks like the NLGers got bored with talking about themselves again.

 

[decades]

troll

 

[STR8UP]

I'll spend a couple of minutes entertaining the troll.....

Are all women bad? No.

Are some women good? No.

How can this be, you ask?

Because "good" is a subjective measure and one man's "good" is another man's garbage.

You meet a girl. "Wow, I met a great girl. She's sweet, loving, kind, caring, feminine....everything I ever want in a woman". You find two or three of these who end up swinging from your branch to another and you stop handing out the label of "good" so freely.

I am here to bring some objectivity and open mindedness to the forum. The mature members of the forum will stand behind me, when I strongly suggest that men are partly to blame for their problems with women.

Nobody is denying that men are not to blame for the way things are today. But I highly doubt you are going to add any "objectivity" to this forum.

I understand the fact that most men on this forum have a painful past with Women. They were either painfully rejected or dumped, and they have carried this bitterness with them, to the extent that they don't want to listen to any objective views and opinions.

You can keep your assumptions to yourself.

I came here because I was researching body language. There was a hot little bartender that would give me all of the classic signs of interest, and I wanted to know what it all meant.

This brings me to the Question I want to raise. Are all women bad? Most 'Men' come to this forum and make blanket accusations about women, without being sure of exactly what type of women they are talking about.I would like to clarify on this.

Oh, please...."accusations", haha. I'm pretty sure you're either a woman or a mangina.

There are two catagories of women:The Good ones and the Bad ones.The good ones are the giving,caring,loving and understanding ones. The bad women on the other hand are the callous, abusive, manuplative and selfish ones.

And all women fall into one category or the other, right?

This is possibly the most clueless and uninformed AFC statement ever. And the sad thing is, there are a lot of otherwise smart guys even on this board who really believe that women are either one or the other.

For every guy out there doting over his new sweetheart this valentines day, there are half a dozen or more men from her past who felt they were betrayed by her.

I know some people are going to raise their voices in protest to this and shout. "women are the same." This is partly true and partly wrong. It is partly true because women have exhibited universal behaviour. And partly wrong because women come from different political, social and Economic backgrounds; because of this therefore,we can not afford to generalise.

Cannot afford to generalize eh? I say we can't afford to ignore this "universal behavior" that women tend to exhibit.

Some women are initially good. So some unscroplous men take advantage of these good women and abuse them in relationships. Because most of these women are loving,submissive, caring,giving and unselfish, men naturally take them for granted, use them and dump them.

Now I'm about 99% sure you are a woman.

It is just natural for people to take advantage of nice people whether men or women. This creates a Female version of Average Frustrated Chics, who have learnt their lessons about men the hard way. These are the women who have their scores to settle with men. And should they land on AFC men they vent out all their revenge on them hence the bitterness that is poured out on this forum.

Sounds like someone is portraying women as perpetual victims. It's usually women who do this.

You sound more like a woman with every paragraph.

 

[wait_out]

People displace their anger against people they can't touch, onto those they can. This goes for men and women alike.

Men and women alike can be good, bad, or selfish. True evil is different. I was reading Persepolis today about the Iranian Revolution; they would take young women with "anti-Islamic" tendencies, and send $5.00 dowries to their families so they would understand their daughters had been raped before being tortured and executed. This is men of course doing this -- though women were both willing and coerced accomplices.

People do terrible, terrible things to each other, and normal people will do almost anything given enough pressure or compulsion. In our society most small betrayals between us are much more banal and insignificant -- but that doesn't mean we are fundamentally better or more moral people deep inside.

Women are the same. Do I trust most men? Definitely not. Are men capable of great evil? Definitely. Are women the same? Yes.

Given I distrust the great majority of men to act ethically and right outside of compulsory social boundaries, I distrust the great majority of women to act ethically and right outside of compulsory social boundaries. That doesn't mean they're worse than men, and it doesn't mean I feel a need to take revenge on them. But idealizing women once and hoping they'd be a way around they self-serving and callous behavior of men caused me a lot of pain.

Dehumanizing women provides a way to justify selfish and anti-social behavior against them. Humanizing women frees us from holding ourselves to unrealistic standards of behavior, misconceptions, and inferiority complexes. Since they're on the same scale of good --> bad, what constitutes which and the "true" nature of women is a hard subject and impossible to answer. The only honest thing here is to look at your own motivations and decide why you truly want to f*ck a lot of women for whatever you offer in return.

Either way this is a politically loaded topic and fascinating one. If you really want to push some buttons, talk to ideological feminists about partner abuse in lesbian relationships. Or ask if Ted Bundy would be a PUA hero if he wasn't a serial killer. People are people. End of story.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Don't feed the trolls.

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