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approaching is useless and creepy

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it may work for a one night stand, if you are very good looking, and you happen to be at the right time, place, with the right girl, it may also work, if you lower your standards a lot and happen to find a desperate girl who wants sex

but is ****ing useless when it comes to getting a girlfriend, especially an average one or slightly above it, pretty much all guys out there with girlfriends, got them through their social circle of friends, they never had to approach, in all cases, they were introduced

I gave up on approaching a long time, I did a few times, and it got me nothing, all the work you have to do just for a date, which doesn't guarantee ****, so much **** has to happen just for a girl to like you, and even worse, have chemistry with you, fall in love, decide to date you out of the hundreds that tried before you

spamming your neighborhood or school with cold approaches to every young woman who walks by is completely worthless for anyone, even a 10/10 male. People think you are desperate and weird... it's not lost on neighbors an bystanders that you are walking up to every girl and using a routine.

cold approaching leads no where because like he said its currently not socially acceptable & yes people will think you are desperate and weird

I don't even look at girls anymore, or better put, I don't let them notice that I physically like them, why should I? they aren't even that hot anyway, and probably look like **** without makeup, why should i boost her ego even more, when hundreds if not thousands of guys have already done so in her lifetime, why should I give up my power to her

chances are, she is already in a relationship anyway
 

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a bit too pesimistic, dont you think?

I kind of agree with you, normally people meet their partner through mutual friends 50% of the time, 25% at college/work, 15% at bars/clubs, and 10% in any other random situation.

I dont do 'cold approaches' in the street, or in a cafe etc, but, if I am in a social environment (party, club, event...) and I see a girl I like, I open her just to chitchat. If she seems nice, talkative and receptive I may go for the number etc. If I sense she's not receptive, I just end the conversation and I spent 5 minutes of my life.

My mission is not to do 10,20,...50 approaches a month. I just do it from time to time, when I feel good, the situation fits my purpose, and so on.

Anyway, if you approach 100 girls in a month, you are very likely to end up banging a few of them...and you may find one that is gf material, so it is not totally useless. You need to be damn persistent/obssesive to do this though.
 

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latino158 said:
but is ****ing useless when it comes to getting a girlfriend, especially an average one or slightly above it, pretty much all guys out there with girlfriends, got them through their social circle of friends, they never had to approach, in all cases, they were introduced
The odds of selecting a woman that is worthy of a relationship out of a crowd by cold approach have to be astronomical.
 

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zekko said:
The odds of selecting a woman that is worthy of a relationship out of a crowd by cold approach have to be astronomical.
pretty much this

if you don't have a good social circle of friends, where they can introduce you to girls, you are fuked, you will not a get a girlfriend unless you get really lucky

many people forget that even though looks matter, is just for initial attraction, without chemistry nothing will happen no matter how beautiful you are

so many things have to happen for 2 people to fall in love, and have a relationship
 

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Speak for yourself OP. Met many women through cold approaches over the last 4, going on five years. It's hard to believe you've been here for four years and still haven't learned much.
 

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For you maybe it's useless and creepy. I see it as a natural thing to do when I'm attracted to a girl. All it takes is eye contact and a smile.

Maybe your ego is a slave to other people's opinions and thoughts and you lack balls to approach.
 

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You care too much what she thinks of you and this is screwing up your vibe. You approach with the attitude that you are doing her a favor talking to her and that she should be glad that you are paying her the compliment of being attracted to her.

Be friendly, pay her a compliment, tease her a little about something, keep eye contact think in the back of you mind that you are fvcking her (helps put you in the right mindset). Start talking about anything, read her body language... if your're getting the green light ask of her number, or a date on the spot.

I usually get good results, but my best guess is that only 1 of 5 actually makes and keeps a date with me. If I approach one woman a day, I'll get at least one date the next week.

The other thing you need to do is not worry about getting results. If you are just starting to do this you are learning, and should look at each interaction and figure out what you are doing right and wrong. Pay attention to what you are doing and how she is reacting to it.
 

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You've been here since 2011 and you're still a Negative Nancy.
 

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To me it's all about the venue. Nobody likes the guy outside some supermarket or gym hitting on every girl he sees, but in college, at a party..anywhere where you're invited and are "supposed" to be, I think anything goes.

That's a limiting belief that I have, and I acknowledge it. I just don't want to be the guy that everybody hates, standing in front of a building doing "cold approaches". That's a decision I've made.
 

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I agree. When I see guys cold approach chicks in bars and even clubs its kind of sketchy . Sure you can score a chick for a one nighter if you are a 10/10 and have a great body and dress well but unless you are famous person , usually the hit rate is virtually zero . Best way to meet chicks is from your social circle since you been perceived to already vetted as you know someone in the group . So I would encourage expanding your social circle than cold approaches.
 

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A creepy approach is a creepy approach....

Maybe you feel creepy and shes almost ready to spread for you.

You are counting yourself out before you begin.

A creepy approach beats no approach...we all are looking to get sex and money.
You apparently have found something greater than creepy sex and creepy money.

Please share or stick to ur creepy approaches until you find true love.



Creep
 

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i like people like you about how you look at sarging/approaching/whatever you call it. that means more girls for me ...yaaaayyyy
 

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Cold aproach is a myth sold to naive guys by PUA gurus

You look like crap ? Aproach !
You are short ? Aproach !
You are poor ? Aproach !
Social anxiety ? Aproach !

Oh ... and we 'teach you' for only 999$ for boot camp or some bull**** books.
But ...

There is no real statistics after what the gurus try to sell you.I remeber one famous PUA, very skilled, confident,tall and very good looking that his aproach to sex ratio is extremly small.And he looks like top guy.

Here is another guru ... looks at his stats :
http://krauserpua.com/2014/01/01/my-2013-daygame-stats/

Lays: This number is exact. I kept notes and it’s memorable enough that I don’t really need the notes.

Opens: 1,000
Numbers: 250
Dates: 60
Dates: 15
Lays: 27 new girls, 3 repeats from prior years

Anon
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so one of the best daygamers in the world has a 2.7% lay rate?

Myth must exist and be supported otherwise nobody will buy this seduction boot camps, books and tutorials.
It works - if you are hot like **** and confident and girls don't mind - but if you have some disadvantage - age,height,looks ... it's total uphill battle.
Because ... you can't show all the value while cold aproach - only looks.You can be rich and have great hobbies but if you looks not good enough you are going to be
rejected even if she would accept you in other conditions (online talk, social circle) where you could present more 'value' besides look.

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If you are not hot guy in 2015 cold aproach= creep. Girls FORGOT that guys hit on them because of online presence,social circles,clubs where they get hitted.
Daygame pickup is like something from 80ties when internet didn't exist.I see hot and young girls all the long in metro - they are glued to their phones.
 

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You always have to see things from the other perspective: If some random woman cold approached me, no matter how hot she is, I would always assume that something is wrong. Either she's trying to sell me something, or she's mentally ill, or desperate or something. There's no way in hell I would view her as a potential girlfriend/lay.

There has to be a secure environment (same friends or same school or same college or same workplace) in order to create trust. Trust is important. I never buy something nor do I talk to someone without trust.
 
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