Approaching 10's

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I work in an small area of a city where I frequently encounter '10's on the street. It is the nature of the area and its layout, its many boutiques and its reputation - this all results in a very high density of extremely beautiful women in a small area. In the mornings on the way to work, afternoons at lunchtime and around 5pm it is a nice place to be.

In approaching, I achieve vastly different results depending on whether we encounter each other walking head-on versus whether I approach from an angle. I get good results when approaching at an angle. However, I have had little success at stopping 10's head-on.

This, in itself, is not a problem.

The 'problem' is I tend to see more 10's head on than I do in any other situation. I have been been hit with three 10's in a span of 10min as I'm walking down the sidewalk. This has happened several times. It is simply too much to ignore.

I want to know if there is any advice anyone has on stopping 10's head-on.

Alternatively maybe someone knows some way I can change the universe so it presents me with more 10's in my periphery instead of walking right at me.
 

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Yo Oldsalt,


Off the top of my head, the way I usually do it is just hit'em with some face to face DIRECT Game. But one way you can turn a direct hit into a periphreal hit is to simply "casually" double-back and FOLLOW her ass 'til she gets where she's going.

But you have to be covert, super-sneaky with this tactic though. Don't let her SEE you following her or you're dead in the water----THEN you would definitely be certified "weird". lol

But if she DOESN'T see you, just wait until she stops in a mall, or a store, or even on the elevator back to her office. Then hit her with a situational opener or a "passing" comment------THEN go for the lunch date and/or the number close .

I've often found it BETTER to ask for a lunch date sometimes rather than the phone number. The REASON it sometimes works better is because by asking for MORE than what I expect (an instant lunch date), I usually wind up with what I wanted in the first place (the phone number).

So try the "follow her until you can get a better angle for a more indirect approach" strategy. This is really VERY easy to do, actually. Because MOST women I meet on daytime approaches are usually so tuned OUT of their surroundings and FOCUSED on other things that they rarely notice a random guy in a crowd------ "UNTIL" he does make his approach.


March on.
 

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I think we need pics - that's a lot of HB10's which is statistically rare, even in environments like you mentioned?
 

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Your 10, my 10 and others 10s are all slight different - it's all a matter of personal taste for what YOU call a 10.
 

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The reason your results are poor on the street is you have almost no material to open with, you have no legitimacy. That’s why I seldom do street approaches.

A VU demonstrates, hitting a moving target is hard, why not wait until it is stationary? All these “10’s” have to be going somewhere, why not go in the shops?

For reference on street approaches try jwhite’s entries in the Bible. The “Excuse me, are you single…” approach had a very low success rate, but the success rate is 0 if you don’t approach.

Here is something I have used by accident in my downtown and now have used it a few times:

I really did have an appointment, was dressed well, and carrying a nice leather attaché with the letter in it with the appointment address, and I could not find it. I stopped anyone I could see (hb’s too) to ask directions. I took out my letter, got closer to let her read the address, then I chatted her up. Went for the number close and…….did not get it.

I have gotten one or two digits using this prop, got one coffee date, but, nothing after that. The success rate is going to be low, if you can deal with that then happy hunting.
 

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Victory Unlimited's right. Yea, just be direct with her...and be face to face. Go up to her directly from the front.
 

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Thanks for the suggestions. It is a tough type of appraoch for this type of woman. And I have never seen any 'expert' address it. I guess most wouldn't bother trying because it is so diffcult. Common sense.

I'm writing from a foreign country. (Don't ask... I'm not telling.) Can't post pics but I kid you not-- these women are top-notch and some models you would know have been 'discovered' walking these very same streets. I use 10as a term to mean a woman who dresses and holds herself out like a 10 AND has the looks to back it up. These women do. And I am very fussy.

The best thing is that here people mostly all low key... it's not not like NY or LA. So you might say the ***** shield comes down a little quicker. My accent doesn't hurt either. :)

It has been lots of fun approaching these women so far. But I don't have heaps of time to spend following women into shops... once I almost did. But it felt strange changing my path to follow her. The women who work in the shops are often knock-outs too, or at least very cute- so yeah I do go in. But I like to go in beforehand and flirt with the women behind the counter before I go marching in one day after some random model-type I see on the street. Maybe I can make the women working there jealous. :)

Anyway it was a lingerie shop. I hadn't been in there before. So I did not go.

Sure the easiest approach is in a shop or a supermarket. But this is not where I see 10's in rapid succession. More likely a 7 or 8 here and there. Totally different type of woman. As so many have said before, these women are usually even more guarded initially. It takes more work, more time to get their guard down.

I see the most 10's on the street. I'm out walking this one select area everyday in the AM, around noon and 5PM because of work. The chance is just too good to pass on.

Angle approaches have worked great. There is an open square and everyone is crossing paths. I have had even women who tried to walk away and then couldn't. They would turn back. Awesome.

There have been some strange things I did not expect in my street approaches of 10's:

It can work even from behind. But be careful. In one case she turned around and her face did not match her otherwise 10 appearance... maybe a 5 face and she was stuffing her face with a sandwich. I just said nevermind.

Then there was another time... This must have been some freak accident and took me so much by surprise I blew the opportunity. I walk past this '10' and as an experiment I try not to pay attention to her. I don't just mean not looking but not giving off any indication that you want to look. Try that. Not easy. I managed to do it, but after she passed I gave in to the temptation and I turned around to look. And then SHE turns around to look at the same time. She was drop dead gorgeous and very tall and was like a deer in the headlights. I was like WTF!? This can't happen. I am embarrased to say I did not do an about face and start walking toward her. I was just too surprised to see her turn around and the moment came and went her face imprinted in my mind.

It is the head-on see-you-coming 'approaches' where I have been simply ignored. There is no moment of suprise where your eyes meet. It's too predictable I guess. Not really an approach. I mean you are both walking toward each other anyway. Just not exciting.

What happens is that they often don't stop. Very easy for them to just pretend they can't stop. When you look that good you are getting checked out by every guy in the area and as you walk you tend to walk quickly and look like you are in a rush.

They could be tuned out or it could be that they see you from afar and they just assume you're just like every other dumbass who is checking them out. I simply don't know.

But I have one more experiment to try. It is rather off the wall. But given the results I've gotten so far, I think you have to throw out rationality when it comes to this. Props usually have some male-derived rational basis behind them. I don't use props. She'll have checked you out thoroughly before she even realises you have a prop.
 

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Are you sure you can't tell us which country this is?

If you're reserved about that, feel free to PM me. It would be interesting to compare notes on the extent to which this works in different cultures. It definitely is a factor - don't let anybody tell you otherwise. But so is whether you are a native of that country, whether you have the allure of the outsider/foreigner about you. If the combination is right, it could work anywhere. It's amazing how different people's success rate will be when attempting the same style of approach. I suppose that's why it's ridiculous to allow one failure or rejection to get you down, because there are just too many variables. Eventually you will get lucky.

Would just be interesting to know, anyway.
 

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I'm writing from a foreign country. (Don't ask... I'm not telling.)
To hell with that...I'm asking! Just where are you walking where you can't throw a rock without hitting a 10?

You might be an old salt, but I've been around the block myself (I like to think). And I can't say I've been anywhere with nearly as high a concentration of 10s as you say. (Lots of pretty girls, yeah, sure...but not 10s.)
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
Ukraine!!!!!

LOL u know mr Deus, i read your posts before about saying u have no confidence.......but i gotta say, u got a witty sense of humor - try applying that to girls

you obviously made a good crack at Sparky0000 there, and uv've made a few witty humor posts before.

Try combining that with some ****iness and girl will start melting for u

making these kinda jokes with ****iness makes u seem like you are above them, and the confidence will grow as u keep doing it
 

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So Old salt,ith so many 10's within your reach and anxious to hook up with you in a foreign country how do you find time to hang out here?
 

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Victory Unlimited said:
Off the top of my head, the way I usually do it is just hit'em with some face to face DIRECT Game. But one way you can turn a direct hit into a periphreal hit is to simply "casually" double-back and FOLLOW her ass 'til she gets where she's going.
You got your right way to go on a HB10 right here man, be direct :up:, do know that when you do a direct you have to make sure that the girl shows you HER qualities, not other way around, cause she will be bored... (I suppose you got some DJ skill so you'll be able to do this...)

If you see this girl has an air over herself, you feel this girl knows she's hot, then I would advice you to go undirect, give her a small neg to get her gaurd down, and then use a more direct approach once you feel her gaurd is down, then try being more direct... good luck mate
 

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Calling a girl a 10 is putting her on a pedistal. Stop doing that. She is just a girl who you want to have sex with. That's all she is until you get to know her more deeply. Your luck will improve if you take this attitude.
 

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Luveno said:
Calling a girl a 10 is putting her on a pedistal. Stop doing that. She is just a girl who you want to have sex with. That's all she is until you get to know her more deeply. Your luck will improve if you take this attitude.

Wisdom!
 
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