Approaches, how do you feel about them as a Mature Man?

[lookyoung]

Also I want to say being more than 5 years older than a girl who is under 25 is generally a handicap in itself, mostly due to society programming but also human nature to want people most similar to yourself and the physicalities of aging. I'm not trying to discourage any older guys, I'm just saying you older men are having to make up for that with your other qualities.

I disagree with this keto. I am 31 and have success with girls up to 11 years younger than me. I have dated at least 15 girls who were 8 years our younger than me over the last 1 or 2 years. It could be a handicap with a few girls, but the biggest handicap is being able to be compatible with them. Most girls that age want to have fun and they are not steady. There heads are all over the place. What she like on sunday she may not like on monday.

The girl that I have been seeing who is 11 years younger than me has been on spring break this week and is going to accept a job as a waitress at a bar/lounge when she gets back and thats a deal breaker for me. She knew how I felt about it and took the job anyway. So if she wants to come over and fvck we could do that, but there will be no dates and she will never have the best of me.

 

[ketostix]

I disagree with this keto. I am 31 and have success with girls up to 11 years younger than me. I have dated at least 15 girls who were 8 years our younger than me over the last 1 or 2 years. It could be a handicap with a few girls, but the biggest handicap is being able to be compatible with them. Most girls that age want to have fun and they are not steady. There heads are all over the place. What she like on sunday she may not like on monday.

What can I say. Guys who are in their 30's that don't "look 30" can PU 21 year olds. I do it some too. I believe you do too. But every guy says age doesn't matter and that they can PU 20 year old girls but I don't personally know too many that do or are actually out there doing it. What I do know is most every 30 year old would want to PU 21 year olds but 10 to 1 it's the younger guys PU most of the younger girls.

 

[guru1000]

What can I say. Guys who are in their 30's that don't "look 30" can PU 21 year olds. I do it some too. I believe you do too. But every guy says age doesn't matter and that they can PU 20 year old girls but I don't personally know too many that do or are actually out there doing it. What I do know is most every 30 year old would want to PU 21 year olds but 10 to 1 it's the younger guys PU most of the younger girls.

I look my age and have a current army of 21, 25, 27. The 21 year old is the best suited candidate thus far. Guess this puts a hole in your theory.

 

[reset]

Women's ADDICTION is a MAN who they can have a great time with. If you can perfect this skill, you will have 90% of opening, rapport and IL in the bag.

I think this is the case, which means it trumps age/class/ whatever. It's the girl's horny chemicals. They don't think logically "well he's three and a half years older/younger/not a millionaire" etc. They don't do that in the heat of the moment. That may come after as they are rationalizing their behavior, but if in the moment they are turned on and want you, then that's what they want. Has nothing to do with man-logic.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I think this is the case, which means it trumps age/class/ whatever. It's the girl's horny chemicals. They don't think logically "well he's three and a half years older/younger/not a millionaire" etc. They don't do that in the heat of the moment. That may come after as they are rationalizing their behavior, but if in the moment they are turned on and want you, then that's what they want. Has nothing to do with man-logic.

I agree. If a guy fulfills a woman's immediate (whatever they may be) needs he's in; no man-logic involved.

 

[DJCT]

I agree. If a guy fulfills a woman's immediate (whatever they may be) needs he's in; no man-logic involved.

Agree.

 

[##17]

Honestly? I used to be much better/willing at approaching a while ago. I'm not positive why this is the case, actually.

It could be the age factor. If an 18-year-old guy approaches a girl who looks like she could be 18 but is really 16 (or 24), it's fine as long as he carries himself well. But if a 35-year-old guy approaches a girl who looks 25 but turns out to be 18, he comes across as a creep.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Approaches, how do you feel about them as a Mature Man?

I never saw the point of bothering random girls. I would never go out and try to mark up a big list of failed approaches and number closes just to show how hard I am trying.

The point of approaches, as I see it, is to be able to engage in conversation and laughter the majority of the people who happen to be in your life at any given moment - for the sake of enjoying it yourself. It's a give and take. Being able to make a girl laugh, especially at herself, is what she gets out of talking to you. Fun is what you bring to the table. If you are confident that any girl will have a good time around you and work at making that true, then you become a "fun guy" in women's eyes. I don't feel like I do "approaches." I just talk to the people around me.

 

[grinder]

Like any skill as you do it more it becomes natural. Here’s an old post I made on the way I used to approach. It’s very regimented but was a summation of what I had learned. I mutated it significantly and stopped thinking of the steps and just felt it as a natural process. It’s just normal everyday stuff now that I use all the time in varying degrees. I don’t use a book to get numbers I use my phone and because I am satisfied in my current relationships I just don’t approach much now.

Grinder's Mill of Cold Approaching

 

[Omen]

What can I say. Guys who are in their 30's that don't "look 30" can PU 21 year olds. I do it some too. I believe you do too. But every guy says age doesn't matter and that they can PU 20 year old girls but I don't personally know too many that do or are actually out there doing it. What I do know is most every 30 year old would want to PU 21 year olds but 10 to 1 it's the younger guys PU most of the younger girls.

I can PU the younger ones cause I look as old as they are. I can pass for 18 easily. And i'm not picking up 20yr olds. Just 18yr olds

But seriously... what I have seen is most of them are with guys their age. You have a few that may be 17 and date a 21yr old or what not, but I dont think there are a huge amount of older guys like us really dating the younger ones. I know of ONE that is 26 and dating a 17yr old. Thing is, they make the best couple ever. They are one of those "meant to be" couples. I cant think of two better people to be with one another.

Personally, I have found that the maturity level is all across the board on these girls. Some act much older, and some you would NEVER want to take out in public unless you put a muzzle on her because she would say so many stupid things, your value would go down TONS. I know this blond who yeah, i'd hit it, but the thing with this one is that if you were successful at a business or what ever, and took her with you to dinner with business clients or what not, you would NOT want her to speak. You'd ruin a business deal in no time.

But I do think as ketostix said, the majority is the other way around. It's all the high school kids dating high school kids, and 20yr olds dating 18-23yr olds and what not. I've only dated a girl 5yrs younger than me when I was 23.

I can say that I learned a lot dating a girl that age. She was mature, but at the same time, she had so much to learn and was still growing up.

I made a comment to a 17yr old girl a while back and said... A guy my age doesn't marry a woman your age. She actually took offense to that. Why I dont know, but I think she was trying to say... I'm not a little kid.

But that's the truth. People who are 18 and 19 and what not have no business getting married. Maybe many, many years ago, but I dont think people are ready at that age. Again, to each his own.

 

[leftForDeadPhoenix]

I look my age and have a current army of 21, 25, 27. The 21 year old is the best suited candidate thus far. Guess this puts a hole in your theory.

Yeah, I know that's bs. I've seen many older looking gents with way younger ladies. I also have this hot blonde 16yo, seriously one of the prettiest women I have ever seen, who is really into me(it's legal where I live), but I am going to wait a couple of years to pursue anything with her, because I'm friends with her dad and 3 brothers. I also had another 16yo fall in love with me 3 years ago. She is one of the most smart and talented women I've ever met. Once again, I waited a few years to follow up on her. She now has a bf her own age, so I'm backing off for now, but I can tell she is still really into me.

 

[Drewskie]

Bump..... good topic, by warrior nonetheless.

 

[zekko]

When I met my current girlfriend I was 42 and she was 27.

I always have to laugh when these guys in their early 30s post that they are too old to get younger girls. It's all in your head. Once you reach a certain level of maturity, age doesn't matter as much. Then it becomes more about chemistry and common interests and values.

My experience is girls appreciate the maturity older men have. Usually guys their own age don't have their life or priorities straight yet.

 

[Reyaj]

When I met my current girlfriend I was 42 and she was 27.

I always have to laugh when these guys in their early 30s post that they are too old to get younger girls. It's all in your head. Once you reach a certain level of maturity, age doesn't matter as much. Then it becomes more about chemistry and common interests and values.

My experience is girls appreciate the maturity older men have. Usually guys their own age don't have their life or priorities straight yet.

Right On!

 

[Warrior74]

LOL. Wow. Old threads are illuminating. I don't even consider it approaching anymore. I meet so many women on a daily, regular basis, it's just talking to people and if it clicks it clicks. Just being friendly. Since I've posted this I've dated 21-35 year olds. It's not even an issue now.

 

[jophil28]

I was at a bar/club just the other night and had this girl giving me the eyes. We danced a bit, talked a lot, got a # -- she even said "you can only have my number if you promise to call." Called 2 days later - straight to voicemail, no return call.

This is a classic example of how some women # close men for sheer ego inflation.

When a man asks a woman for her #, her need for validation is met in that moment. The guy is just " ..another guy who 'wants' me.."

Then, when he calls her a couple days later on VM, her ego is boosted further " ..that guy wants me bad enough to chase me...ohhh, I am soooo hawt."
Imagine the buzz that women get when they retrieve their messages and hear some horny guy asking for a date .

She has not had to extend herself or put in any effort, but she has gotten emotional rewards from merely writing some digits on a piece of paper. How easy !

Do you still wonder why women feel so entitled to a free and easy ride through life ?

 

[Julius_Seizeher]

Do you still wonder why women feel so entitled to a free and easy ride through life ?

My grandmother always sais of the women today, "It's all about me."