Anyone needing to get laid, do yourself a favor and do this...

[Asterisk]

I'm considering this. I'm skinny and I workout, but I'm not quite ripped yet.
What's the response ratio for guys with no shirtless pics?

 

[XMinister]

I think the only reason I got away with a shirtless pic is because of the mask. Otherwise, I would have looked very douchy. Shirtless pics at the beach or something where you need to be shirtless is a good way to do it. Bane is usually shirtless or in a tanktop, so I had an excuse. It looks like I'm not trying to be serious, haha

I can't speak for anyone else, but that picture has worked for me.

I'm just goofing around on there to be honest. I just got the tab open while I'm working on my blog to change the pace of the day, haha.

There is a lot of potential on there if you play your cards right and stick to the plan of the masters in this thread.

 

[Asterisk]

You have much better bulk than I do, tho.
I'm a friggin twig, I only have a slight four-pack showing.
Chicks might think they'll break me if post a shirtless pic!
I might just have to rely on my style and humor.
What do you think I could expect without a shirtless pic?

 

[Purefilth]

You have much better bulk than I do, tho.
I'm a friggin twig, I only have a slight four-pack showing.
Chicks might think they'll break me if post a shirtless pic!
I might just have to rely on my style and humor.
What do you think I could expect without a shirtless pic?

Depends on your face - I have no shirtless pic and with Ninjas intro msg suggestions, or even my own random tailored - I get a decent response rate. ALSO FOUND THAT OCCASIONAL SMOKER CHANGED TO NON-SMOKER gets a better response rate too.

Responses don't=lays/meets though

these are the flakiest chicks in the world bro dont put any heart into it, just take it for what it is. They flake, easily distracted overly entitled and mostly warpigs.

Good luck

EDIT: just as a disclaimer - I don't meet/fvck any girls off the net, I do just fine IRL

 

[Packers2010]

i made a profile the other day ( i haven't fapped in 10 days. made a commitment not to jerk it till i get a girl. )

i used NNs profile and i spammed his message. IT WORKS. just look at the crappy pictures i put up. most of the girls say. " thanks" or some rubbish to my email. MY problem is then trying to go for the number. i don't think my profile is good enough to get that.

here is my profile pictures. my profile text is just NN profile i changed it a little to suit my tastes.

http://ak0.okccdn.com/php/load_okc_...00/75x333/636x894/0/10478598735528103222.jpeg

http://ak0.okccdn.com/php/load_okc_...00/160x46/721x607/0/15862870391373728959.jpeg


since i used to be a " 2 faps a day keeps the wet dream away guy" i desperate to try anything. can some one coach me or help me get this stuff done. it might not work for me though.. i am still a noobie. so i don't have epic game like some of you guys do. but i am getting A LOT better.

 

[Stagger Lee]

It's all about looks guys. I can spam girls, there's no such thing as a method other than escalating on girls that reply, and get as many as 5 meet ups a week on POF with my good pics. But I don't look as good as I use to in person so get very few lays. Marmel probably looks as good in person as his pics.

If you can get meet ups and lays off pof after meeting in person, then you can get them from cold approaches. Most of my lays use to come from cold approaches. I don't have the looks anymore with advancing age and thinning hair, so meet ups from pof get me nothing more often than not. It's like you have to be L6-7 to even be in the game and be an L7+ to get an HB5, but that's the reality in a promiscuous/female hypergamy system.

There's really no method other than looks+numbers game+escalating. If you are not getting replies and/or the girls aren't allowing you to escalate then you don't have the looks required.

 

[foreverAFC]

It's all about looks guys. I can spam girls, there's no such thing as a method other than escalating on girls that reply, and get as many as 5 meet ups a week on POF with my good pics. But I don't look as good as I use to in person so get very few lays. Marmel probably looks as good in person as his pics.

If you can get meet ups and lays off pof after meeting in person, then you can get them from cold approaches. Most of my lays use to come from cold approaches. I don't have the looks anymore with advancing age and thinning hair, so meet ups from pof get me nothing more often than not. It's like you have to be L6-7 to even be in the game and be an L7+ to get an HB5, but that's the reality in a promiscuous/female hypergamy system.

There's really no method other than looks+numbers game+escalating. If you are not getting replies and/or the girls aren't allowing you to escalate then you don't have the looks required.

advanced age? you are 33 bro, time to hit the gym.

 

[Stagger Lee]

advanced age? you are 33 bro, time to hit the gym.

Females are screening attraction on a guy's face, so aging skin, thinning hair, and other hard facial markers of aging. I'm the same fitness and physique I've always been.

 

[Asterisk]

Well, you could always wear a John F. Kennedy mask, He was pretty good with the ladies.

 

[marmel75]

It's all about looks guys. I can spam girls, there's no such thing as a method other than escalating on girls that reply, and get as many as 5 meet ups a week on POF with my good pics. But I don't look as good as I use to in person so get very few lays. Marmel probably looks as good in person as his pics.

If you can get meet ups and lays off pof after meeting in person, then you can get them from cold approaches. Most of my lays use to come from cold approaches. I don't have the looks anymore with advancing age and thinning hair, so meet ups from pof get me nothing more often than not. It's like you have to be L6-7 to even be in the game and be an L7+ to get an HB5, but that's the reality in a promiscuous/female hypergamy system.

There's really no method other than looks+numbers game+escalating. If you are not getting replies and/or the girls aren't allowing you to escalate then you don't have the looks required.

Its kinda funny with me, tbh...I get some super hot chicks that go crazy for me and then some average chicks don't...I do clean up pretty well tho and look pretty good in a shirt...you can't see from the pics but I have huge shoulders, upper back and chest that really grabs attention..one chick actually told me I looked like Superman...I told her women usually don't say that until after we have sex...hahaha...that was an easy lay

 

[zekko]

here is my profile pictures. my profile text is just NN profile i changed it a little to suit my tastes.

I think you're from Australia, so I'm not sure what the style is there.
But here in the States, the style for glasses has gone towards smaller lenses and frames that are less obtrusive. If you're like me, you can't wear contacts, but I think you could benefit from getting a more stylish pair of glasses.

Picking out a pair of frames right for your face takes a bit of time. I'd tell them you want something more modern looking. Usually the person who helps you pick them out will take their time with you, but sometimes they're busy and will try to rush it, don't let them. I usually bring a trusted female friend/lover with me to get their opinion too. Part of this is because I can't see without my glasses so I can't really tell what I look like trying on frames lol. Plus you and friend can take as much time as you want looking at frames, regardless of how busy the worker might be.

Also, if you have thick lenses, be aware there are special lenses that are much thinner. I would think that any eye doctor would automatically recommend these, but you never know. I have horrible vision, but my lenses are very thin.

 

[cordoncordon]

Marmel is married with kids at home, and yet he is posting a POF profile and seemingly going on different dates all the time?

Does not compute.

Don't forget this is the same guy who went F'd some ghetto hood rat customer of his from work.

Please guys, marmel is nothing to emulate. If anything he should be banned for being a douche.

Marmel don't take this personally. You give good advice and you seem like an ok guy otherwise. I would say this to any guy that was married with kids at home. Just get divorced man, for your kids sake, they deserve better than this. Think of the quality time you could be having with them instead of sneaking around, fawking skanks.

And marmel, you aware brah? You need to go on a cutting workout plan/diet. Would also on your traps and bi's. Need work. U mad?

 

[marmel75]

Lol...first of all this stuff is all happening late at night after everyone including my wife is sleeping, so I am trading computer/TV time for fvcking.

Second, anyone who knows what they are talking about knows that u start cutting in Feb or Mar to get ready for summer. I am around 12-13% bodyfat, caliper measured right now. As long as I stay under 15%, I am fine for when I cut.

Why would I be mad? I will take my size at my body fat percentage any day over some cuts. I was at 10% in the spring and a lost a lot of size and a lot of attention...by the time my shirt comes off no girl is worrying about if my abs are slightly covered by fat or not, lol...

 

[evan12]

your pic shows you are "pre-selected" , the concept that I neglected for a long time , but I found it is almost number one for a lot of women to decide the worthy of the man to go date with him .
I pretend some times I have a woman but I don't have

 

[cordoncordon]

Lol...first of all this stuff is all happening late at night after everyone including my wife is sleeping, so I am trading computer/TV time for fvcking.

Second, anyone who knows what they are talking about knows that u start cutting in Feb or Mar to get ready for summer. I am around 12-13% bodyfat, caliper measured right now. As long as I stay under 15%, I am fine for when I cut.

Why would I be mad? I will take my size at my body fat percentage any day over some cuts. I was at 10% in the spring and a lost a lot of size and a lot of attention...by the time my shirt comes off no girl is worrying about if my abs are slightly covered by fat or not, lol...

http://i54.tinypic.com/2s9x01h.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/5ajbr9.jpg

 

[Atom Smasher]

Lol...first of all this stuff is all happening late at night after everyone including my wife is sleeping, so I am trading computer/TV time for fvcking.

What are you going to do when somebody who knows you sees your profile and shows it to your wife, or worse, one of your kids sees it? Even a Google on SS will get them to your profile.

 

[marmel75]

Have slightly modified Naughty Ninja's original series of messages and have been getting excellent results with it...in fact 4 of the 6 women I have sent this to have given me their numbers without me actually asking for it, and the other 2 responses were basically strongly hinting that they would give it to me when I asked(which I then got on the following message).

So here it is:

after sending the How's the site been treating you so far message and getting their response back, which is almost always negative, I send the following:

"Yeah, I definitely agree with you...I haven't been on here too long, and have met a few cool people, but also had the misfortune of meeting a crazy psycho stalker chick as well...that was an, well...let's say interesting experience to say the least...

Also not sure what is going on with these women who email me their nude pics on their first message, like that's going to help their chances or something...lol...kinda strange...

Well, (name if I have it) I don't know why, but I have this strange feeling you are getting ready to meet an awesome, good looking, cool guy...not sure why I get that feeling, I just do... ;-)

Matt"

Three things usually happen after this:
1) Women LOVE hearing about crazy b!tches and beg me to tell them about the story...
2) They usually say something like "Yeah, I bet you get a lot of nude pics ;-)"
3) They say "I really like this feeling you're getting...text me when you get a chance... xxx-xxxx"

Why does this work so good for me? I think its for a few reasons:

1) Women want a guy that is found to be attractive by other women. A chick stalking you definitely shows that and it also hints that you must have f*cked them really good, as women instinctively know how crazy they go for guys that can do that to them...best part is, its funny,(especially when you let them know you'll tell them the story in person...), segways right into sexual talk, because they will ask "What did you do to them to make them so crazy about you after a few dates??"---trust me THEY WILL bring up this topic on the date and want you to tell them the story, shows you aren't desperate because the story ends with me kicking the chick out of my house, telling her friends to come get her, and breaking up with her(a true story from a long time ago), and that you don't put up with BS...all in a simple story that the woman eats up...and it leads into her thinking you must really know how to f*ck based on how you slickly answer her question of what did you do...I usually respond with something like..."well, (name)...I guess she really enjoyed my techniques I've learned over the years..." or kinda chuckle and say "Well...I haven't decided if I'm going to let you find out yet...your going to have to work a little bit harder for that..." with a sexy smirk...that really gets her wheels spinning, trust me...

2) Women sending nude pics again shows that other women find you attractive and also sexual...without you saying anything about it to them...

3) Just shows you are confident in yourself and willing to let the women know what kind of guy you think you are...I mean what woman WOULDN'T want to meet an awesome, good looking, cool guy right?

Out of the 6 times I have sent this, 4 have sent back their number unsolicited in the next email, and the other 2 sent back pretty much the same as above with a strong hint that I should ask for their number...I send a short follow up email and then they send their number back.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

Have slightly modified Naughty Ninja's original series of messages and have been getting excellent results with it...in fact 4 of the 6 women I have sent this to have given me their numbers without me actually asking for it, and the other 2 responses were basically strongly hinting that they would give it to me when I asked(which I then got on the following message).

So here it is:

after sending the How's the site been treating you so far message and getting their response back, which is almost always negative, I send the following:

"Yeah, I definitely agree with you...I haven't been on here too long, and have met a few cool people, but also had the misfortune of meeting a crazy psycho stalker chick as well...that was an, well...let's say interesting experience to say the least...

Also not sure what is going on with these women who email me their nude pics on their first message, like that's going to help their chances or something...lol...kinda strange...

Well, (name if I have it) I don't know why, but I have this strange feeling you are getting ready to meet an awesome, good looking, cool guy...not sure why I get that feeling, I just do... ;-)

Matt"

Three things usually happen after this:
1) Women LOVE hearing about crazy b!tches and beg me to tell them about the story...
2) They usually say something like "Yeah, I bet you get a lot of nude pics ;-)"
3) They say "I really like this feeling you're getting...text me when you get a chance... xxx-xxxx"

Why does this work so good for me? I think its for a few reasons:

1) Women want a guy that is found to be attractive by other women. A chick stalking you definitely shows that and it also hints that you must have f*cked them really good, as women instinctively know how crazy they go for guys that can do that to them...best part is, its funny,(especially when you let them know you'll tell them the story in person...), segways right into sexual talk, because they will ask "What did you do to them to make them so crazy about you after a few dates??"---trust me THEY WILL bring up this topic on the date and want you to tell them the story, shows you aren't desperate because the story ends with me kicking the chick out of my house, telling her friends to come get her, and breaking up with her(a true story from a long time ago), and that you don't put up with BS...all in a simple story that the woman eats up...and it leads into her thinking you must really know how to f*ck based on how you slickly answer her question of what did you do...I usually respond with something like..."well, (name)...I guess she really enjoyed my techniques I've learned over the years..." or kinda chuckle and say "Well...I haven't decided if I'm going to let you find out yet...your going to have to work a little bit harder for that..." with a sexy smirk...that really gets her wheels spinning, trust me...

2) Women sending nude pics again shows that other women find you attractive and also sexual...without you saying anything about it to them...

3) Just shows you are confident in yourself and willing to let the women know what kind of guy you think you are...I mean what woman WOULDN'T want to meet an awesome, good looking, cool guy right?

Out of the 6 times I have sent this, 4 have sent back their number unsolicited in the next email, and the other 2 sent back pretty much the same as above with a strong hint that I should ask for their number...I send a short follow up email and then they send their number back.

The above tactic is 100% approved. Should be added to the main POF thread or have it's own tips thread.


I bolded the "negative" part you put because you have to realize when chicks talk negatively about POF they are trying in their own way to qualify themselves to you as if you might be their "one". Meaning they "forgot" about the other dudes they met and their other messages (even though most are full of it and haven't) that's a green light there for you on the right track so far. (They aren't going to brag about the site or other dudes to turn you off but downplay everything else. Same thing a dude would do who wants to meet the chick he's currently talking to.)

As far as the number out of nowhere..LOL I and a few others have gotten them just tossed out of the blue or before even asking....That's when you KNOW that chick is feeling you! LOL

Dudes who think these chicks are ONLY on POF and dating sites for an ego boost have ZERO clue as to what's REALLY going down on sites like POF. These chicks aren't just sitting online inactive while they wait forever for some clueless "God" who's dumb enough to actually wife them up. They are getting pounded left and right.

And the fact that Meast,Marmel, Incog and a few others who have taken the advice, added to it, met many and are pumping and dumping these nutty broads should have anyone with REMOTE common sense to now believe what I knew was 100% true before I was even on that site going berserk myself.

Use your absolute best looking/flattering pics. (Shirtless if you work out and are cut up) and do the simple quick way of grabbing numbers, meeting, then escalating on the meet and you'll see for yourself in real life.

Again: POF is literally the new Adult Friend Finder of Facebook hoes, ex-myspace wh0res and all sorts of nutty chicks looking to ride the c0ck carosel to boost their insecurities and low self esteem till they "think and hope" to find some clueless God who's dumb enough to wife their cvm dumpster azzez up. Because unfortuantely for them......It's all they know. A normal healthy realtionship was not nor ever in the cards for these "damsels in distress".

 

[Naughty Ninja]

i made a profile the other day ( i haven't fapped in 10 days. made a commitment not to jerk it till i get a girl. )

i used NNs profile and i spammed his message. IT WORKS. just look at the crappy pictures i put up. most of the girls say. " thanks" or some rubbish to my email. MY problem is then trying to go for the number. i don't think my profile is good enough to get that.

here is my profile pictures. my profile text is just NN profile i changed it a little to suit my tastes.

http://ak0.okccdn.com/php/load_okc_...00/75x333/636x894/0/10478598735528103222.jpeg

http://ak0.okccdn.com/php/load_okc_...00/160x46/721x607/0/15862870391373728959.jpeg


since i used to be a " 2 faps a day keeps the wet dream away guy" i desperate to try anything. can some one coach me or help me get this stuff done. it might not work for me though.. i am still a noobie. so i don't have epic game like some of you guys do. but i am getting A LOT better.

Forget "epic game". You HAVE TO start working out...seriously. Once you get to start looking buff/ cut up you'll see replies start going up. In the meantime put up better pics. Put up the best pics you have now on mybestpic and use ONLY the best rated ones for your POF. Try to grow some facial hair that best suits the shape of your face for a more "rugged" look. You can google different types of facial hair styles and how to trim them for the best look and a more "edgy" appearence.

 

[marmel75]

Forget "epic game". You HAVE TO start working out...seriously. Once you get to start looking buff/ cut up you'll see replies start going up. In the meantime put up better pics. Put up the best pics you have now on mybestpic and use ONLY the best rated ones for your POF. Try to grow some facial hair that best suits the shape of your face for a more "rugged" look. You can google different types of facial hair styles and how to trim them for the best look and a more "edgy" appearence.

I have to say those pics are pretty bad bro...I am not surprised by the responses you are getting...these women are looking to fvck, but you have to be someone they WANT to fvck first...

It really doesn't take much game at all...you send a few flirty texts with them, ask what their schedule is like this week, set up the date, confirm the date and time the day of, go out and kino the hell out of them starting with a big hug upon meeting, makeout, escalate sexually, and then ask them if they want to continue this somewhere more private...

its like a cookie cutter system almost...