Anyone ever recovered from a Failed escalation

mbas44

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I dont just mean like failing to kino,etc. Im talking like girls basically inviting themselves back to your place, and you fail to even kiss her. Im asking from more a theoretical perspective if its even possible. Ive had this happen to myself 3 times in my life(twice this year, beyond pathetic I know), but has anyone ever had things get this close to intimacy and failed and eventually gotten with the chick? It seems something gets screwed up big time when this happens and its almost beyond recoverable. I know in my case everytime its happened its led to a very percievable shift in attitude from the girls where even the slightest slip up or sign of weakness on my part led to coldness. Unless Im wrong, these are pretty much dead ends once this happens. thoughts?Just thought it was an interesting topic.
 

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Don't fail to kiss her. If I'm alone with a woman and I feel like kissing her she's getting kissed. Even if it ends there and never goes any farther you kissed a hot woman and didn't wuss out like a chump.

Also there is a very good chance they will immediately reciprocate. And then there is the way that will work on her mind over time, the fact that you just dominated her that way and took what you wanted.

Be warned and don't push it farther than a kiss if they don't reciprocate.
 

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Driggs said:
Don't fail to kiss her. If I'm alone with a woman and I feel like kissing her she's getting kissed. Even if it ends there and never goes any farther you kissed a hot woman and didn't wuss out like a chump.

Also there is a very good chance they will immediately reciprocate. And then there is the way that will work on her mind over time, the fact that you just dominated her that way and took what you wanted.

Be warned and don't push it farther than a kiss if they don't reciprocate.
Yes, I am aware that for myself I royally *****ed out in these scenarios. THe last chick invited herself back to my place. I think thats probably the biggest IOI there is, unless im mistaken. And that was my point, shes putting herself out there and then when you dont even act on it its probably the worst rejection a girl can get, hence my point about it being irretreivable. Id love to be proven wrong as I think it would take a near superhuman effort to make something happen after you dont follow through like that.
 

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It has happened to me a couple of times, just make sure that you create opportunities to be alone together in the future and use kino, seductive language and go for the kiss close and keep taking it further until you sleep with her. But while you're planning on meeting that chick and trying to get her into bed after a failed escalation, you should be out there approaching and trying to hook up with other chicks. Approach, approach, approach.
 

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CJ 101 said:
It has happened to me a couple of times, just make sure that you create opportunities to be alone together in the future and use kino, seductive language and go for the kiss close and keep taking it further until you sleep with her. But while you're planning on meeting that chick and trying to get her into bed after a failed escalation, you should be out there approaching and trying to hook up with other chicks. Approach, approach, approach.
Oh I am, I just thought it was an interesting topic(well to me at least since its happened to me a few times) and was wondering if anyone had actually managed to turn these things around. thx.
 

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Driggs said:
Don't fail to kiss her. If I'm alone with a woman and I feel like kissing her she's getting kissed.
Sounds like a court case waiting to happen.

But for the OP, when you dont have much experience and you invite a girl back to your place, I could see how hard it would be to get her to kiss you. She may be sitting on the other side of the sofa and you can feel awkward about that but relax because chances are she wants to kiss you...

These days I dont get nervous, when a girl comes back to mine, I go to the kitchen, get some water and just act normal. Then dont say anything and just lead her to my bedroom, she knows why shes there, skip the BS.
 

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Mr Wright said:
Sounds like a court case waiting to happen.

But for the OP, when you dont have much experience and you invite a girl back to your place, I could see how hard it would be to get her to kiss you. She may be sitting on the other side of the sofa and you can feel awkward about that but relax because chances are she wants to kiss you...

These days I dont get nervous, when a girl comes back to mine, I go to the kitchen, get some water and just act normal. Then dont say anything and just lead her to my bedroom, she knows why shes there, skip the BS.
yeah thanks. in the most recent case, the girl invited herself back to my place..the girl was sitting on my other couch(I have 2) and actually invited herself to come sit next to me..we..cuddled for 2 hours watching a movie..then she asked to come lay in my bed..where i..cuddled a little more... :down: ..yes I know i was a flaming faggot. Hence my question in this thread..when youve ****ed up THIS badly, not just failing to escalate, but basically ignoring a girls advances to this degree, Im feeling like its irretrievable. Thanks for the tips btw.
 

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I met a girl for the first date at a bar and we had 1 drink each and then leave to go somewhere else. As we get to my car:

HB: You can't drive, you've been drinking!
Me: I'm ok
HB: Well if your lips are numb then you know you're tipsy and shouldn't drive
Me: Ok

Go to another bar and have some another drink and then go out to eat somewhere and 2 hours later we're back in my car and I'm about to drive away.

HB: you drank more! how are you going to drive?
Me: I want to see if you lip test work. touch my lips (as i'm leaning in)

SHE FUC*ING SLAPS ME!!!!!!!!

I'm soooo confused kinda pissed but laugh it off. I playfully slap her back... akward as sh*t...

pull up to her car which is less then a 5 min. drive and she won't get out. just keeps talking and talking and shi*t testing me for a good 20 min asking me "are you a player". She leans over to hug me and then when she pulls back starts making out with me. Then invites me back to her place.

in her bed she keeps saying "I dont know who you are" and "I can't believe you're in my bed" sh*t like that. try making moves on her and she says I can't on the first date. I can't I can't. Im like stfu and we're playing tug-o-war with her panties for literally 15 min. and I gave up. Went home the next morning and havn't seen her since (2 months ago) shes been dying to see again and basically promised that we'll f*ck next time and I don't even care to answer her calls.
 

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Espi said:
There have been several times a chick has refused sex but relented a few weeks later (or in very rare cases a few YEARS later).

Another reason for spinning plates. Occupy yourself with as many different women as possible and good possibilities usually happen.
Oh well in my case the chick didnt refuse anything..I just didnt make any move. In fact she was the one making all the moves lol. I think thats different than if the man at least attempts something but she refuses sex-at least then she sees him in a sexual light no matter what. Im talking about times where the guy(for whatever reason) is getting all the signs yet doesnt even attempt a kiss.
 

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mbass...... This should be pretty easy to solve. Invite her back to your place again. She will probably sit close to you again. Then she will want to cuddle. After you cuddle for a while, gently rub her hand with your index finger, then just hold your hand gently on top of hers. After a few minutes, put your index finger gently in her hand. She will probably hold it (think of how a baby holds your finger). Then let her do that for a few minutes. Hold hands after that. Then at some point gently kiss her hand. Then gently kiss her cheek. Then do it again. If she likes that, she will either kiss you on the lips gently or you can kiss her on the lips.

Just soft kisses. Spend a few minutes doing that and when you both get really worked up the kissing will become more passionate. When she invites herself to your room, keep kissing passionately, grab her waist and her a$$. Keep feeling her up (above the waist) until she finally grabs you or grinds against you. She will probably start grabbing you and trying to pull your belt off. From there just go with the flow.
 

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Aristippus said:
mbass...... This should be pretty easy to solve. Invite her back to your place again. She will probably sit close to you again. Then she will want to cuddle. After you cuddle for a while, gently rub her hand with your index finger, then just hold your hand gently on top of hers. After a few minutes, put your index finger gently in her hand. She will probably hold it (think of how a baby holds your finger). Then let her do that for a few minutes. Hold hands after that. Then at some point gently kiss her hand. Then gently kiss her cheek. Then do it again. If she likes that, she will either kiss you on the lips gently or you can kiss her on the lips.

Just soft kisses. Spend a few minutes doing that and when you both get really worked up the kissing will become more passionate. When she invites herself to your room, keep kissing passionately, grab her waist and her a$$. Keep feeling her up (above the waist) until she finally grabs you or grinds against you. She will probably start grabbing you and trying to pull your belt off. From there just go with the flow.
Hey thanks. Actually did invite her over actually just last week for "massages" (gave her one last time)she seemed receptive but in the end didnt actually come over. This is kinda why I made the thread..It just seems like shes real hesitant now, and Ive read in other places where if you fail to escalate the first time when they are wanting it, it could be game over. I have no doubt in my mind if I could isolate her again it would be ON, but the problem is getting to that point. And yes, I am "spinning plates" as it were, just was wondering if anyone had actually overcome something like this. Mostly its made me realize to strike while the iron is hot and dont expect second chances.
 
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