Anybody up for writing a sample match profile??

[DinoCassanova]

Yeah so I'm still into the online game ( BUT....... on the other hand , thanks to this community and Style's book , etc, I'm also finally getting back into the real life game), and I've got an ad up on that match site. I've been tweaking it and changing it from time to time. Right now I've gone the very soft mellow "AFC" route w/the ad. I've had , let's say, moderate success w/it. Several "winks", a couple emails, but the emails were from non-HB's and the winks were from decent-looking chicks but they live like WAY too far away to even bother chatting with. So, my question here is this: does anyone think they can come up with something , even just a sketch , for what I should try now as my profile because I am tired of the AFC sounding profile, and I want to go back to the more DJ-sounding profile, but at the same time, w/this particular site, I've found you can't go overboard w/the too ****y routine. The girls there aren't having it, plain and simple. I mean, sure you can run an ad like that (and I've tried) but I found I just didn't get as many nibbles or bites as when I came off like a sappy AFC. Hook me up gentlemen. If you live in the area, extra incentive here, I will guarantee some sort of double date action here and that'll obviously be to both of our benefits. Thanks. Later......

 

[DinoCassanova]

By the Way

I'm 30 yrs old, from the near west suburbs. I'm a single guy, not into anything serious right now, so I'm open to dating and meeting new people. If something special develops with someone I'm definitely open to the possibilities. I like women who are confident, flirtatious, down to earth, non-dramatic. I think I would like to get into a good relationship eventually, with someone who is solid, yet understanding and nurturing, and who knows what she wants right now, so that we could help "anchor" each other, and get each other through the long winter. ( Personally I hate winter). What about you?

^^^ Text of current ad in AFC form . As I said above, it's been having so-so success. But I DID try one before w/a totally ****y a$$hole approach, the way Style suggested, but that did not garner any responses. I'm telling you most of the girls on match are uptight and are very leery of any guy who's talking anything that sounds remotely game-ish. These are girls who've had it with the club scene, for the most part , and want a relationship. So you've got to tell them what they want to hear right???? I mean, I DON'T really want a real serious LT commitment, but I look at like this; if I'm on there I'm selling something and the product is myself. And , you can gauge what the "customer" seems to want in general, so if you want responses don't you have to give them at least something close to that?? ~Dino

 

[Egoist]

I think the trick is to be really confident and ****y without appearing like an arrogant player...

maybe be ****y and confident but stress that you dont have much time to meet women because you are so into your career/lifestyle, etc?

i dont know, something that tells them you're not a player?

 

[DinoCassanova]

Egoist ~ I put a new match profile up , another experiment. I think this one is much less AFC'ish than the old one was. I took a couple of your points of advice. Also, I used Style's idea of not posting an actual pic of yourself but instead using like a sketch, or a painting, or something like that , and then telling them to ask you for a pic on their own time. Here's how the new one reads, I think it's a decent balance between not being TOO ****y for the audience, so to speak, (as I said I know how these match dot com females are), and yet not coming off as just another AFC on there. If I end up getting laid once or twice from it then it's worth the effort :


I'm not that crazy about having many of my pic(s) up on the Internet, after a sort of "stalking" incident that occurred not too long ago. Anyway, me and why you'll want to know me: I'm smart (book & "street") , funny, easy on the eyes, creative , romantic, legitimately single, take good care of myself (but not "metro"). I'm a smooth talker and can talk you into just about anything once I get going. ;-) Hey, I said just ABOUT anything, so keep your minds out of the gutter. I'm a good conversationalist and I have a sexy voice. In fact, it's so sexy I sometimes leave mySELF voice mails and listen to them repeatedly. :-0 So why am I single?? It's pretty simple really. The same reason there's so many good-looking and perfectly desirable girls on here; I like to think of those of us who use online dating as the elite and extremely selective few. Kind of like the Marines. We're not just settling for anybody. We're not swinging at our first pitch (or in my case even our third or fourth; I'm taking forever at the plate actually), but that's because we can afford to be choosy. As to what I'm looking for, or what my "type" is.... well, that's why there's the "about my date" section isn't it?? I tried to sketch out what I'm looking for (and NOT looking for) as best as possible, right there in that section. If you don't fit those basics, OR you do but you happen to live like 50, 60 miles away from me (use mapquest if you have no clue where you live in relation to the city and the very near western burbs), then save us both the time. I'm not interested in going on a mini-road trip just to go out to dinner with somebody new one night. Otherwise, drop me a line or a "wink" sometime if you like and we'll just take it from there. If not , thanks for stopping by and good luck to you.

 

[Egoist]

Originally posted by DinoCassanova
Egoist ~ I put a new match profile up , another experiment. I think this one is much less AFC'ish than the old one was. I took a couple of your points of advice. Also, I used Style's idea of not posting an actual pic of yourself but instead using like a sketch, or a painting, or something like that , and then telling them to ask you for a pic on their own time. Here's how the new one reads, I think it's a decent balance between not being TOO ****y for the audience, so to speak, (as I said I know how these match dot com females are), and yet not coming off as just another AFC on there. If I end up getting laid once or twice from it then it's worth the effort :


I'm not that crazy about having many of my pic(s) up on the Internet, after a sort of "stalking" incident that occurred not too long ago. Anyway, me and why you'll want to know me: I'm smart (book & "street") , funny, easy on the eyes, creative , romantic, legitimately single, take good care of myself (but not "metro"). I'm a smooth talker and can talk you into just about anything once I get going. ;-) Hey, I said just ABOUT anything, so keep your minds out of the gutter. I'm a good conversationalist and I have a sexy voice. In fact, it's so sexy I sometimes leave mySELF voice mails and listen to them repeatedly. :-0 So why am I single?? It's pretty simple really. The same reason there's so many good-looking and perfectly desirable girls on here; I like to think of those of us who use online dating as the elite and extremely selective few. Kind of like the Marines. We're not just settling for anybody. We're not swinging at our first pitch (or in my case even our third or fourth; I'm taking forever at the plate actually), but that's because we can afford to be choosy. As to what I'm looking for, or what my "type" is.... well, that's why there's the "about my date" section isn't it?? I tried to sketch out what I'm looking for (and NOT looking for) as best as possible, right there in that section. If you don't fit those basics, OR you do but you happen to live like 50, 60 miles away from me (use mapquest if you have no clue where you live in relation to the city and the very near western burbs), then save us both the time. I'm not interested in going on a mini-road trip just to go out to dinner with somebody new one night. Otherwise, drop me a line or a "wink" sometime if you like and we'll just take it from there. If not , thanks for stopping by and good luck to you.

i like it. better than before..

also keep in mind, and this is speaking from personal experience with those, just make sure you close them ASAP when they bite.

Its very easy to become chat buddies online if you dont meet/talk to them right away.

 

[Socialreject]

Heh well..

Coming clean on aspiration for a family of your own are one way to convey that you are not an arrogant player. But the rest of your profile needs to be smooth otherwise you just come off soft or new age guy.

I was in the online dating scene for a while. Had a bunch of dates with various types of women. But to be perfectly honest, i have bad experiences with the online dating scene (except for a few women who were quite nice). There is a lot of narrow minded, emotional or psychologically challenged women in online dating scenes. Man haters and the likes. The ones who make these kind of profiles where they mention they are NOT candidate for ONS are usually the ones who ARE candidates for exactly that, but will prolly make you sry for it afterwards ;-)

But yeah that's just my experience of course and like a said there were quite a few decent females among them as well. Although no LTR material so they came and went (hehe) and some stuck around to become casual friends.

I found that my profile attracted most reply when it was AFC'ish. C&F never really got me much attraction. But c&f profile did get me more replies when i took initiative on starting a conversation with a woman, but then they were fairly guarded (story of my life ^^). In the end it's best to do a mix and change your profile often. Women only read interpretations of your profile anyways so one day AFC style will push a button and the next she will want a hard core macho profile. And they ALWAYS LIE about what they want from a guy. I've sent slightly AFC msgs to women who claimed to be much more into 'nice guys' then 'macho types' and they simply ignored me or blew me off and when you're ****y they either show interest, get offended and flame you or get offended and then start being interested...

Online game isn't really my thing basically but yeah if you're good at it it's definitely worthwhile.

 

[DinoCassanova]

I found that my profile attracted most reply when it was AFC'ish. C&F never really got me much attraction

>>> I hear you man. As much as you hate to sound like an AFC online , it seems like you really almost have to on match at least for max attention. The majority of girls on there are looking for AFC's, amazingly. But, I'm tired of playing around w/my profile now, so I'm just going to let it run for awhile the way it is above and see what happens.

 

[al77]

Originally posted by DinoCassanova
I found that my profile attracted most reply when it was AFC'ish. C&F never really got me much attraction

The majority of girls on there are looking for AFC's, amazingly.

Guys, what you are saying is just your perception of unreal online reality. Yes, it might look that way but...

You have to consider that if you use a pay site, obviously the site attracts 1000s of other dudes. All those dudes flood all available females with AFC like letter "Hi.. I am John.. Just want to say Hi, check out my profiel and let me know.." Sure, since John didn't bother to put up a killer pic and a real funny profile he lost most of his chances even before he started to write his email.
But he lost it completely when he wrote an AFC "Hi I am here" letter!

So in the nutshell:
a) Have a killer pic. There are many ideas how to do that. Of course we are all lazy to actually implement them, but female do not care, they want killer pics.
b) have a funny profile. I would not go for ****y one too much.
Save it for email correspondence, then she will know "he is not afraid of me". If you do it before you talk to her, it is kind of odd: like if you are not afraid to lose all women... which is again odd and unnatural. Some females might proceed to "Aha, he is againts women! He is too ****y!"
c) have some good ideas what to writ ein your first emails. If you don't say anything, or mail a form letter it is obvious you didn't put any efforts in it. Similar to the situation when you approach a women from your car... rolled down the window "Hey...You want a ride? I am John by the way..." What are the chances she'll respond "Sure!"??
d) A contrarian approach: use a free site like Matchdoctor or Plentyoffish. Or at least not a well known site.
Females there do you receive many letters, so they are not much spoiled with attention.

 

[al77]

Originally posted by DinoCassanova

1. I'm not that crazy about having many of my pic(s) up on the Internet, after a sort of "stalking" incident

2. I'm smart (book & "street") , funny

3. and I have a sexy voice.
In fact, it's so sexy I sometimes leave mySELF voice mails and listen to them repeatedly.

4. If you don't fit those basics, OR you do but you happen to live like 50, 60 miles away from me (use mapquest if you have no clue

5. I'm not interested in going on a mini-road trip just to go out to dinner with somebody new

I am sure you are very familiar with C&F concept. But the implementation always needs some work. Try to read you profile from a female perspective, try to guess what she would think:
1. "Ohhh.. he is..saying.. what.. he is crazy? and stalking on teh Internet??" thats a female logic at work.
2. It sounds like "I have a killer body all chicks want me"...it is just over ****y and too straightforward. Needs to be more subtle here.
3. "Ohhh.. is he gay"? thats a very likely female thought.
4. "Why is he so negative?"
5. "Is he saying he doesn't want to buy me a dinner?"