Anybody here had plastic surgery?

[teebear]

I'm not embarrassed to admit it. I got a nose job and a chin implant several months ago. My appearance is vastly improved and remarkably - continuing to get better as the healing advances.

I really had to. I had this otherwise healthy self esteem that was weighed down with the realization that my schnoz was giving me a -1 or -2 in the looks department. My looks were limiting my options, no doubt about it.

Needless to say, the turnaround has been remarkable. Anybody else take the plunge? How did it change your life?

 

[glass half full]

No, but I have the same issues. About how much did it cost? Any complications? I would love to know more...

 

[teebear]

No, but I have the same issues. About how much did it cost? Any complications? I would love to know more...

It cost me $9600, all-in. No complications and remarkably little pain or discomfort. No black eyes and I was back to work in 10 days.

My surgeon was top-notch, probably one of the best in my area. It pays to do some research ahead of time. You'll get a feel for your surgeon's character and competence when you meet him to discuss your wishes.

I'm beyond happy with the result and I'm only halfway through the healing stage. I looked good enough to return to work after a couple of weeks and nobody could tell that I had something done. People just kept asking "have you lost weight?" I looked better, but nobody could figure out why! Now the healing has really taken hold and I'm starting to see the final result emerging. Like I said, I'm beyond happy.

It goes without saying that my dating life improved significantly after the surgery. I felt brave enough to try online dating about one month after surgery and I got several hits right away on the strength of a single photo. I dated three women in two weeks and slept with two of them on the first date before quitting online dating. I have absolutely no fear of making cold approaches now and I have been very successful getting numbers and dates. I converted one of those early dates into a plate and I probably don't have to explain the advantages of spinning plates to you. It pays, trust me.

It's great to have game but there's no denying the reality of needing to look your best. I made up my mind recently to learn how to dress better and that has taken on a life of its own. If the cost of surgery is too high you can still improve your attractiveness just by dressing better. Having done both, I would say that dressing better has had an even bigger impact on my success than plastic surgery.

 

[mangotot]

OP: Are you now picking up a lot more chicks then before?

 

[teebear]

OP: Are you now picking up a lot more chicks then before?

That's a great question. I'm approaching and attracting much better looking women than I did before so it's more a matter of quality than quantity. I'm also dressing much better than in the past so that's helping too. I would go as far as to say that dressing better has helped as much as the surgery did. The surgery eliminated a lot of the self-consciousness that was undermining my game, however.

I still have significant challenges but I do OK in spite of them. I'm older (49) and I'm not very tall - only 5' 7". Those limitations impose a reality of their own but I have used a lot of what I have learned from the manosphere to improve myself and enjoy a satisfying dating life.

@glass half full

I typed up a somewhat detailed answer to your post but when I submitted it I saw a message flash onscreen about moderating or something like that so my reply might be posted later. If it doesn't appear later I will respond tomorrow. I have a date tonight and won't be at the computer until late, if at all.

 

[mangotot]

^ Looks like to surgery was a 'quick fix' for solving inner game issues. Which is good given age (not disrespecting) of OP. How comes you didn't have these procedures say at 25?

 

[teebear]

I didn't have the resources at age 25 that I do now. I became acutely aware of my "problem" at age 16 and suffered from it for the next 32 years. I got married in my early 30's at which time it became a moot point though it's telling that on my wedding night the MC (my brother-in-law) made fun of my nose in his speech at our reception. I laughed along with everybody else but it was pretty degrading.

When my marriage ended last winter and I realized that I would be back on the market again I said to myself "enough is enough" and made the call.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I don't think there is anything wrong with plastic surgery as long as the goal is to fix a real, significant flaw in your appearance. It only becomes a problem when people get addicted to plastic surgery and start getting dozens of procedures to fix minor issues. That's how you get the "androgynous mannequin" look.

 

[teebear]

I don't think there is anything wrong with plastic surgery as long as the goal is to fix a real, significant flaw in your appearance. It only becomes a problem when people get addicted to plastic surgery and start getting dozens of procedures to fix minor issues. That's how you get the "androgynous mannequin" look.

Agreed 100% It was not a vanity thing with me at all. I built up a good life for myself despite the cards I had been dealt. I just felt that I had gotten about as far as I was going to go on character alone.

 

[VladPatton]

I don't think there is anything wrong with plastic surgery as long as the goal is to fix a real, significant flaw in your appearance. It only becomes a problem when people get addicted to plastic surgery and start getting dozens of procedures to fix minor issues. That's how you get the "androgynous mannequin" look.

Exactly. Next thing you know you fückin lift a leg every time you smile!

 

[teebear]

Exactly. Next thing you know you fückin lift a leg every time you smile!

LOL I've never heard that before. That's hilarious, truly!!

 

[teebear]

No, but I have the same issues. About how much did it cost? Any complications? I would love to know more...

*** LOL - the reply that I typed up yesterday finally appeared. I can't figure out how to delete this post so please ignore the double-post. ***

No complications to speak of and the pain was minimal. I was back to work in 10 days. People could tell that something was different but it wasn't obvious. I got asked "have you lost weight?" a lot. I looked good 10 days after surgery though it takes about a year to heal after a nose job. My appearance has improved dramatically in the 8 months since the surgery. I have been called good looking more often in the past 6 months than the entire 48 years that preceded them. The return on investment has been off the charts for me.

The surgery cost $9600, all-in. The nose job alone would have been about $8400. I'm glad that my surgeon recommended the implant. The whole point is to balance your features and he accomplished just that. It pays to shop around for a good surgeon.

 

[englishman]

It cost me $9600, all-in. No complications and remarkably little pain or discomfort. No black eyes and I was back to work in 10 days.

My surgeon was top-notch, probably one of the best in my area. It pays to do some research ahead of time. You'll get a feel for your surgeon's character and competence when you meet him to discuss your wishes.

I'm beyond happy with the result and I'm only halfway through the healing stage. I looked good enough to return to work after a couple of weeks and nobody could tell that I had something done. People just kept asking "have you lost weight?" I looked better, but nobody could figure out why! Now the healing has really taken hold and I'm starting to see the final result emerging. Like I said, I'm beyond happy.

It goes without saying that my dating life improved significantly after the surgery. I felt brave enough to try online dating about one month after surgery and I got several hits right away on the strength of a single photo. I dated three women in two weeks and slept with two of them on the first date before quitting online dating. I have absolutely no fear of making cold approaches now and I have been very successful getting numbers and dates. I converted one of those early dates into a plate and I probably don't have to explain the advantages of spinning plates to you. It pays, trust me.

It's great to have game but there's no denying the reality of needing to look your best. I made up my mind recently to learn how to dress better and that has taken on a life of its own. If the cost of surgery is too high you can still improve your attractiveness just by dressing better. Having done both, I would say that dressing better has had an even bigger impact on my success than plastic surgery.

So your half way through the healing stage, but you've had enough time to start internet dating, sleep with 2 women, quit online dating and turn one into a plate.

Sorry, I smell a rat! Sounds like BS

 

[teebear]

So your half way through the healing stage, but you've had enough time to start internet dating, sleep with 2 women, quit online dating and turn one into a plate.

Sorry, I smell a rat! Sounds like BS

I'm not sure what part sounds like BS to you, perhaps the "healing" part?

Like I said, I took 10 business days off work (plus weekends for a total of 14 days) and I was good-to-go after that. Everything that was done was done inside my nose and nothing had to be broken which is the part that gives some people black eyes. My surgeon explained that it takes about a year for all of the swelling to go down and for the skin to settle over the new structure. I don't doubt it one bit because as recently as one month ago I felt that the tip of my nose was too big but lately it has really started to refine and take on a more pleasing appearance. I get nothing but compliments on it now, especially from those who have known me for a long time.

As for the rest of it, it wasn't hard at all. I joined PoF, dated three women in the first couple of weeks and had sex with two of them. I still bang one of the women every two or three weeks and I continue to meet and date new women. I tried online dating because everybody insisted that it was the way to go but I didn't like it that much. I am very confident and have zero issues with cold approaches. I was like that before the nose job, honestly. The surgery wasn't a magic bullet - it just eliminated the anxiety I felt about my looks. Empirically speaking I look better than before and that really helps but since the surgery I have invested in good clothing, got a better haircut and internalized the principles expressed here and other sites like the Blackdragon blog. I'm not a PUA in the sense that I can walk into clubs and get girls to go home with me though I haven't actually tried that yet.

I still have challenges to deal with. I'm 49 years old, I'm only 5'-7" and I have three kids living with me 50% of the time so I likely won't be pulling cheerleaders or lingerie models but I'm doing okay anyway. I was married for 15 years so being single again, playing in a rock band (two actually) and sleeping with multiple women is a dream come true, as you can imagine. No BS about it - it's just cause and effect.

 

[englishman]

Sounds like more BS... I think your probably a women.

 

[teebear]

Sounds like more BS... I think your probably a women.

I'm missing something here. What would a woman hope to accomplish by posting this?

Dude. My wife left me, I felt terrible for a couple of months and then I decided to do something about it. I got my nose fixed, bought some decent clothing and started having success with women.

Isn't that the whole point of self-improvement? Does it sound like cheating or something? I just can't understand what's so hard to believe. Please enlighten me!

 

[glass half full]

thanks teebear!

 

[Rubirosa]

I'm going to rep the OP for his articulate postings, unselfish candor, and his participation on this board which is based on the idea of male self improvement and the resulting positive results with the opposite sex.......