This.
And CALL the woman before the date. A 5 minute phone call will greatly reduce flakes.
With women I've met in person, I haven't called them before a date.
My simplified, typical approach process is this. This could be bar or non-bar. Since the early 2010s, I have done more non-bar approaching.
- Approach woman
- Have good conversation
- Around the 5-15 minute mark, ask her to do something together. This is often getting drinks in a bar, but could be an activity date if the conversation has uncovered a mutual passion for the same activity. Usually, it is drinks in a bar.
- Once she has agreed to a date, ask her for her phone number
- Send text identifying myself so she has my number
I have not typically done a phone call in this process. It could be done after I've sent a text identifying my number and in theory she has entered that number as a contact in her phone. Some women enter new men's numbers into their phone immediately, others let them sit as a random number sequence for a bit. There have been times where the woman would text me a few hours before the date to ask me if it was still happening. This behavior is more common with swipe app sourced women than real life sourced women. The real life sourced woman has a greater feel for you and doesn't always need the validation.
Over the years, I've felt that there is more babysitting involved with women to get them to show up on dates. I don't recall in the early to mid-2000s when people has basic candy bar type cell phones that there was much calling in between a real life approach and a planned date time.
Plus you can’t get stood up if it’s not a date .
Incorrect. Your male friends can stand you up/flake on plans. It's also possible for a guy who you've met for the first time and you plan to get together with more flake before your first get together.
