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thedeparted
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Yeah, sure. But the bltch that really burns you in the end is known as "Mother Nature."
See, whatever some girl did to you, it was just more or less motivated by her genes. She got the feeling you weren't the bigger, better deal that would raise her eggs into some kind of greatness. She used you to get a little more wealth or status or access to better quality sperm. She hurt your feelings b/c she didn't care about your feelings which are inconsequential to her struggle for life in this world.
And she did all that because she is a dauther of Mother Nature, who cares nothing for the feelings of any man, or his many unmet desires, and watches unblinking as your heart is ripped out by a soulless little cvnt -- or eaten alive by a hyena.
Life, you see, is not for the weak, and hardly allows time for regrets. Go kill a hungry hyena or fvck another little cvnt and you won't feel like any more self-pity. You'll feel like a man. Best way to be a DJ.
See, whatever some girl did to you, it was just more or less motivated by her genes. She got the feeling you weren't the bigger, better deal that would raise her eggs into some kind of greatness. She used you to get a little more wealth or status or access to better quality sperm. She hurt your feelings b/c she didn't care about your feelings which are inconsequential to her struggle for life in this world.
And she did all that because she is a dauther of Mother Nature, who cares nothing for the feelings of any man, or his many unmet desires, and watches unblinking as your heart is ripped out by a soulless little cvnt -- or eaten alive by a hyena.
Life, you see, is not for the weak, and hardly allows time for regrets. Go kill a hungry hyena or fvck another little cvnt and you won't feel like any more self-pity. You'll feel like a man. Best way to be a DJ.
Dated the drama queen of all drama queen once. The only response I can give you is to learn from it. Easier said than done. If emotions are involved, you will be hurt.
I learned from my experience, and learn how to spot trouble from miles away. My life has never been more peaceful. Now when my lady throws a fit, I am better at handling the situation.
Listen to your sig: Stop worrying, u create problems that dont exist
I learned from my experience, and learn how to spot trouble from miles away. My life has never been more peaceful. Now when my lady throws a fit, I am better at handling the situation.
Listen to your sig: Stop worrying, u create problems that dont exist
Are there PEOPLE I wish I had never met? Most definitely. But i can't think of any of my relationships with women that I regret. I learned from every single one of them, especially the bad ones. Made me who I am today.
Beating yourself up isn't gonna hurt her, it's only going to hurt YOU. Get rid of those thoughts.
Beating yourself up isn't gonna hurt her, it's only going to hurt YOU. Get rid of those thoughts.
My ex ripped my fvcking heart out... and in hindsight I wouldn't have it any other way. It was like a wake up call for me. If she hadn't hurt me the way she did, I might still be a weak chump. To say I learned from it would be an understatement. It took a while, but that event caused me to grow in ways I never thought possible. No regrets, just experience.
jophil28
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Oh no.. not more faddish "genetic imperative" stuff from the 'evolution psych' school . When are you people going to stop offering this nonsense as a plausible explanation,and a justification for women's atrocious behavior.thedeparted said:
Behavior is a CHOICE , even for a woman..
Hahaha.....yea, it's a choice kind of like eating a cheeseburger as opposed to a chicken sandwich is a choice. Regardless of what you choose, you have to eat.jophil28 said:
If you are stranded on a raft adrift in the ocean and the only food you have to eat is the fish you catch, you start out by eating the flesh, but after awhile your body craves vital nutrients so you start to gravitate toward the eyes, liver, and skin to allow you to get other vitamins and minerals.
If all behavior is a "choice" as you describe it, you wouldn't be alive today.
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Great metaphor. Anyone who thinks that humans are anything less than a product of evolution, natural selection, and genetic imperative is deeply delusional. Strong culture can counteract genes in some circumstances but right now we have pretty much the opposite. Our culture says "eat more, fvck more, kill more, get rich and conquer" which is just an echo of the DNA that drove us out of the trees, out of Africa, and into the dog-eat-dog civilizations. There is a reason wars are perpetual, genocide inevitable, and beautiful women are always in demand. And there is no time in history when a weak Omega male was desirable, and there never will be.STR8UP said:
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Well I got married and divorced once. Married my college gf after graduation based on a stupid sense of "doing the right thing" as we had been dating for a while and parents started knowing each other (from the same town). My only regret is that I didn't learn about Tom Leykis (or similar male-awakening philosophies) sooner. Of course it would have been even better if my own dad had the same wisdom and had instilled it in me beforehand. I totally lost out on my early-20's playing the role of the boy-husband. But oh well, you can't change the past.
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Absolutely goddamned right.STR8UP said:
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You're too analytical. Put down what Deangelo thinks you should read and get involved with real people in real situations.thedeparted said:
Evolution and biological responses only control so much.
jophil28
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WE still have free will as humans and we have a choice to exercise it or not ..thedeparted said:
I need to pay my bills and I have a choice. I can rob a bank or get a job.
If I rob and get caught I doubt whether your argument will get me released from prison.
Our legal system is set up to encourage and discourage choices which are in the interest of harmony and order (thats my theory, anyways)...it punishes those who make poor choices. Therefore it agrees impilicitly that choices are available in the first place.
None of us are slaves to out nature, or our nuture.
You guys have been indoctrinated at college by loonie leftie ideology for so long that you cannot think for yourselves anymore.
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Last fall I found the only girl who ever got me. She was the one. In all of my 32 years I never never have found a connection like that one.
I had the best Christmas ever with her last year. She told me she would love me forever and ever. After a few months she was talking about having kids. And believe me, this was the only woman I would have ever considered marrying or having kids with. She was not a bpd woman....I've met a few of those since then....anyway...
For reasons I'll never know or understand she broke it off with me this past spring.
Not a day goes by that I don't think of her and hope she contacts me. But I know she never will. I wish the hell I'd never met her.
I've dated 4 girls since then with each lasting a month or two. But none of them compare or even come close to the connection I had with her.
Talk about a case of Oneitis huh?
I know I have it and it's for someone who will never reciprocate my feelings again.
This Christmas sucks. I can't even listen to the radio or turn on the damn tv because of all the Christmas stuff reminding me of her and it makes me feel like sh1t knowing that more than likely those things don't affect her at all.
So what can I say to console you since you obviously are experiencing something similar?
The way I look at it for myself this first Christmas since the break up will be the hardest. Afterwords it will all just be a distant memory. Time does help.
Also, like some of the other guys said, it's important to learn a lesson from it all. With my situation, I ask myself all the time "WHY?" or "WHAT DID I DO WRONG?". I mean here I had this so called perfect girl and I blew it with her....or did I? Maybe I didn't blow it. Maybe it was her fault. Maybe I did the best I could and the end, it was this so called perfect girl who had the flaws and old Truman was in the right this time. So maybe that's the lesson I learned from this one: Regardless of how great a woman might seem, I'm not automatically at fault when something goes wrong.
One last thing...I think it helps to get your mind of the girl. At some point you just gotta say "To hell with her". The focus should be on YOU and making your life awesome.
Hume's fork Jophil. Free will is either caused by something or not caused by something. If it is caused by something it is not independent of its cause and therefore not "free". If it is not caused by something it can be considered a random unpredictable thing, not subject to choice, therefore there is no way to "exercise" it.
Yea, I don't understand the reason why people so strongly oppose this idea. When you understand a little bit about what makes people tick, it's easy to make a correlation between basic biological urges and the way people behave the way they do.thedeparted said:
Exactly.
If we could truly "conquer" our biological urges, then women would actually DESIRE the romantic nice guys that they SAY they are looking for, and us guys wouldn't choose women based upon such shallow criteria as LOOKS.
Society can try to bend us and shape us all it wants, but it is truly no match for the mechanisms that have ensured our survival for tens of thousands of years.
True, but a lot of people tend to ignore or downplay the role biology plays in everything we do.KarmaSutra said:
They like to think that as "higher beings" that we are somehow "above" the basic drives that were responsible for the success of our species.
Biology is neutral. It is neither good nor evil. The structure of our modern society tries to push and pull our natural impulses, but rest assured no matter what artificial rules society tries to impose on us, everything will eventually be equalized by nature.
Too bad there's no jail for a wife who cheats or a girlfriend who lies to you.jophil28 said:
You argue that we are all free to choose, that when biology tells us that it is in our best interest to do something that we can choose NOT to do it because society tells us different, but you fail to acknowledge that you, me, and every other person to walk the face of the earth has been driven by biological urges from the day you are born until the say you die.
Are you going to deny that you have never in your life reconciled a decision where biology was telling you to do one thing but you knew that society wouldn't approve? Of course you have, and so has everyone else.
According to your way of thinking we should all follow society's rules. The same society that tells us to worship women and "play it safe" when it comes to money?
Go for it dude.
True to form, the other side of the argument completely ignores the fact that no one ever made the claim that any of us are slaves.
And my "indoctrination" came from my real life experiences and observations, not "loonie leftie college ideology".
I do see where you are coming from. All this talk about it's all biology, genetics, evolution and nature is one theory. But some people seem to argue that human nature is dark or at least harsh and that somehow is a good thing and will result in better survival. I don't buy that argument. Human nature also has a positive side too. Indulging in bad behavior, poor choices, and short-sidedness doesn't result in positive outcomes.jophil28 said:
I don't know where people get the idea that modern society is following nature anyway especially in regards to male/female inter-relations. There's very little with modern society intuned with the natural order. I don't believe women make good choices, or pick their mates on actually having the best genes. I don't think women's behavior can be justified by it all being a grand scheme of nature. If anything, nature would dictate that women shouldn't have choice and would be acquiescing to males' agenda. Point is people might have a natural tendency to do stupid and destructive things, but that doesn't make it right or justifiable.
One of the reoccuring themes in the historical accounts in the Bible was that when the society followed certain rules and standards, they had stronger leaders and the society prospered. But when they took an anything-goes no standards attitude, they'd had poor leaders, the society suffered and was invaded by foreigners. Even if you are an atheist or evolutionist and don't believe the God part, you can still see the lesson from 5,000 years of a society's social experience. The cycle sure seems to be coming true today in western society: no standards of conduct leading to poor leadership, societal decay, and being overtaken by foreign nations.
It just seems like a better argument would be that evolution or nature didn't intend for women to have the position and influence that they have today, and therefore it will bring a bad outcome.
If you take two female identical twins, separate them at birth and send them to two completely different cultures, a feminist one like the US and a non-feminist one, then tell me that wouldn't make a huge difference in how they behave and think. You grossly under-estimate how much people are a product of their nurture/enviroment/culture. How long did it take Germany to to become nazified and then de-nazified? Not long. People are very responsive to their enviroment. There's all kinds of ideas, theories and fads that can come along, but they're not all equally valed. Just because a situation has been in fore for 40 years or so doesn't mean it's the grand and correct scheme of nature.thedeparted said:
puma183
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There is some truth to this. My theory is that the blatant irresponsible behavior that we are seeing from AW's is due to the divorce laws that got legislated in the 1970's. Like Keynisian Economic Actors, these women have figured out the rules of this environment, figured that they can get away with murder in their marriages/relationships, and have started behaving this way. Change back the laws (i.e. the environment) and these behaviors will be rolled-back overnight. Just like the nazification/denazification of Germany.ketostix said:
