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Island

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What do you do if you're short, average looking, poor and of lower social standing? Improve yourself right? Yes, but that takes time. Obviously you'd try to use your personality to it's most advantage. I am all of the above and I don't think my chances are not good. I'm also returning to a conservative and religious society and the likes of me are worth jack****!

Do you have any helpful tips for this?

BTW, by your reckoning do I stand a chance with older female European expatriates?
 

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I know a guy, he's highschool dropout, skinhead, broke, smokes pot, drinks and hates the world. He's about 5 feet tall and ugly as hell.

Guess what? He can talk and gets the babes.
 

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Serious?

Wow. Are the women cheap and dumb or is he the master? Because from experience, in a conservative society the women look at your social standing first.

But on the same tangent, how do I recognize those flaky chicks?
 

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This is simple bro.

You can only control yourself. You can't control others. Just go for what you want. Try hard enough, and you'll be rewarded.

You might want something more said...but there's not much to say.

You suggested improving yourself. And you're right on. But you need to do that regardless of how you look, and regardless of women in general. Women will be a beneficial side-effect of improving yourself. And yes it takes time. In fact its a lifetime endeavor. But anything worthwhile takes a while (I just coined that ;) )

I won't deny that looks don't matter. And yes, you will need to rely on your personality more to get chicks. But this is no different than any other guy. The only difference is an attractive guy might be able to get by with looks for a longer period of time than a more homely guy, but in the end it comes down to personality.

Don't think of yourself as "jacksh!t". The likes of you are only "jacksh!t" as long as you allow them to be.

Some older female Eurpoean expatriates might find you repulsive, some might find you sexy. You can't directly control how they view you- so control what you can.

Now get out there and nab some expatriates!
 

Island

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Thank you

I really have to work on projecting ease and confidence. I type smooth right? Somehow when I speak I actually stutter and flub for a moment or two.

So.......any of you guys travelled lately?
 

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Re: Serious?

Originally posted by Island
Wow. Are the women cheap and dumb or is he the master? Because from experience, in a conservative society the women look at your social standing first.
Well, it's not like he pulls the chicks from official banquets with 20 spoons to each plate...

He's good at getting college chicks, they love him. The chicks are decent - pretty, non-slutty good looking gals. But of course they don't show him to the parents. :)
 

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Cannot be??!

What do the babes do with him? Hang out for a while out of curiosity? They don't actually **** him do they? Are they easy or just moderately easy girls?

On a tangent, a lot of posts from the masters here advocate listening to a woman so you can detect emotional cues to make the "connection" (haha!). Is it possible to fast forward this process without the yakity yak? I hate to admit but in my natural state I prefer to do the talking. I think I may be able to work this to my advantage. Perhaps I could tell interesting anecdotes, personal stories? Have any of you tried this similar approach?
 

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Re: Cannot be??!

Originally posted by Island
What do the babes do with him? Hang out for a while out of curiosity? They don't actually **** him do they? Are they easy or just moderately easy girls?

When I say he's getting girls, I mean he fukks them and they like it and they come back for more. Generally.

What kind of chicks? If you can imagine a chick having reasonable fun at a party, a beer and a boyfriend or two from highschool, he can bang the chick.

Well, they're just put off at first, but the guy is confident. He doesn't look at the b1tch shield or anything, just comes up and talks to them.

He voices his opinions on life, which are somewhat true and funny, and very interesting. The girl wants to listen to him, and ends up in front of him on a couch. Once he's one on one, she starts to like him and at the end of the night he kisses her.

I've seen him get 3 chicks like this. He even got my target once - bastard.

On a tangent, a lot of posts from the masters here advocate listening to a woman so you can detect emotional cues to make the "connection" (haha!). Is it possible to fast forward this process without the yakity yak? I hate to admit but in my natural state I prefer to do the talking. I think I may be able to work this to my advantage. Perhaps I could tell interesting anecdotes, personal stories? Have any of you tried this similar approach?
I think it all depends on personal styles. Some get the chick to talk and then feed it back to her. Some tell stories to convery personalities.

If telling stories is your thing, full ahead then. Try it, it'll work.

Cheers
 

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Your friend

Your friend sounds like he's smart enough to become rich if he put effort into it!
 

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He's a smart guy. He's making a deal about a club.

Gotta love his spirit.
 

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I used to feel the same way. I'm not the best looking guy around. I'm kinda fat, but in a linebacker way. I asked myself, why would a girl want a fatass like me?

Then I saw some guy with no legs macking on someone decent. And she seemed to like it. He had no legs! Talk about a disadvantage! But he was still confident. Then there were people who were fatter than me but weaker. And finally Ice's friend. Where does their confidence come from? What in them tells them that they are desirable?

Maybe inspiration like this. Maybe practice. I don't know. Just keep plugging away.
 
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whatever you guys do - don't b your own worst enemy - let the girl get the chance to reject u b 4 u bring yourself down - i have seen many many many men who r average or below average with average or better than average chicks - slutty hos (usually club/bar hos) who think they r cute want guys that fit the all-american stereotype crap but there r many girls who r not looking just to get laid but looking for something more with substance - personality/wit/charm/strong/masculine/humor/positive attitude etc..
if u r poor and r worried about social standing then try to improve it slowly over the years and if a girl sees u r attempting to improve yourself they actually see that as positive and actually dont look at your current status but see your future potential - u must show them that your potential is greater than your current standing and r on the right path to make it a reality.

improve your physique - lift weights or lose weight - these r 2 easy things that can be done today at no cost - something else that is free is expanding your vocabulary and making your rap smoother and stronger and exude more confidence - read the dj bible.
 

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Originally posted by Island
What do you do if you're short, average looking, poor and of lower social standing? Improve yourself right? Yes, but that takes time. Obviously you'd try to use your personality to it's most advantage. I am all of the above and I don't think my chances are not good. I'm also returning to a conservative and religious society and the likes of me are worth jack****!


Go out and practice your DJing till you're better , asking us to tell you you're money isn't going to make you money.
 

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Haha

I just wanted to know if you're all rich and good looking!
 
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