any countries with women that's worth the truble? experiences please?

[Newbee2]

Asians have their benefits... that said it's NOT the most trust worthy people. Just the loose face culture is shocking. Regarding LTR material, yes you can find, but not many. The culture gap is BIG, and double standards are gross.

Clearly we have different preferences regarding women, but looks is only temporary with women. Sure some have longer shelf life than others..

Yes "man up" "self improve" "game" it's all very good, but if you want a strong construction, you need good material, n solid ground to build upon. Can't make a ho a house wife... the carrusel riders in the west is used n abused, mind f**ked, and feminist indoctrinated.

Likewise the thai soap's in tv is f**king them up, soon they will be more drama monsters than their western counterparts.

Maybe somewhere in the jungle, there is intact human females wating to be discovered

 

[Newbee2]

Could people elaborate on experiences with women of different culture, so we gather more experinces, than opinion's?

Fact's not opinions..

people who thinks only self improvement, will make any girl worth while.. should stay as they wish.

I don't fancy any particular race above others, but I very much hope that different culture and upbringing, would make a more suitable female for LTR / marriage potential. I know I'm responsible for my part, but I prefer working with decent material, if I try and build something.

I don't suffer from grass is greener symdrome. I'm very realistic..

There are more down to earth females than the norm here in the west.. if not we are f**ked.

Low SMV, females with entitlment symdrome, acting way out of their league.. with a f-up mindset, and nothing to offer in return, they can f themselves... I'm not an emotional tampon, for their princess problems on social media. All facade, no substance, NO Thanks! When the wall is finished, with these... we are left with an old grumpy dead weight, that we have to drag around, and cohabitate with. Only to be nagged, endless drama etc. For crying out loud, there must be better choices than this dystopia

 

[Seattle4Life]

Could people elaborate on experiences with women of different culture, so we gather more experinces, than opinion's?

Fact's not opinions..

people who thinks only self improvement, will make any girl worth while.. should stay as they wish.

I don't fancy any particular race above others, but I very much hope that different culture and upbringing, would make a more suitable female for LTR / marriage potential. I know I'm responsible for my part, but I prefer working with decent material, if I try and build something.

I don't suffer from grass is greener symdrome. I'm very realistic..

There are more down to earth females than the norm here in the west.. if not we are f**ked.

Low SMV, females with entitlment symdrome, acting way out of their league.. with a f-up mindset, and nothing to offer in return, they can f themselves... I'm not an emotional tampon, for their princess problems on social media. All facade, no substance, NO Thanks! When the wall is finished, with these... we are left with an old grumpy dead weight, that we have to drag around, and cohabitate with. Only to be nagged, endless drama etc. For crying out loud, there must be better choices than this dystopia

I think the level of poverty vs. wealth they are in factors a lot more than their ethnicity.

 

[Spaz]

Not interested in asian girls on asian countries, definitely not my cup of tea.

I guess we have to agree to disagree about eastern Europe that its in my experience still better than western Europe, big cities are lagging 5 years in terms of waste while second tier cities up to 10.

To say that "there is plenty of data" to support what you say its not showing plenty of data btw, may I ask you which eastern and western european cities you visited in the last 5 years for more than 3 months? Did you happen to find fat/ugly women with attitude in the same amount in London and Warsaw? in that case I would suggest you to see an eye doctor.

I have no knowledge of asia (except for turkey) therefore I'll take you are saying about it.

I've read abt what you said abt Sweden, whilst it's true that the women there are more masculine then say France it's mainly because of the men that's there.

Women are just mirror images of men.

And if you're truly spent any sort of quality time in Stockholm, you'll notice how beautiful the men are, flawless hair grooming, up to date fashion sense, fantastic taste in shoes and watches.

And they'll spend a fvckton of time dressing up just to go clubbing.

While Spaz is the total opposite of that.

Wanna take a wild guess who gets the girls ?

Btw, since u r asking, I travel to Sweden at least 3-4 per year for years now.

 

[Spaz]

Could people elaborate on experiences with women of different culture, so we gather more experinces, than opinion's?

Fact's not opinions..

people who thinks only self improvement, will make any girl worth while.. should stay as they wish.

I don't fancy any particular race above others, but I very much hope that different culture and upbringing, would make a more suitable female for LTR / marriage potential. I know I'm responsible for my part, but I prefer working with decent material, if I try and build something.

I don't suffer from grass is greener symdrome. I'm very realistic..

There are more down to earth females than the norm here in the west.. if not we are f**ked.

Low SMV, females with entitlment symdrome, acting way out of their league.. with a f-up mindset, and nothing to offer in return, they can f themselves... I'm not an emotional tampon, for their princess problems on social media. All facade, no substance, NO Thanks! When the wall is finished, with these... we are left with an old grumpy dead weight, that we have to drag around, and cohabitate with. Only to be nagged, endless drama etc. For crying out loud, there must be better choices than this dystopia

It all depends on you as a man.

That's my experience.

You create a world around you that fits ur idea of happiness etc, find a woman that wants to live in that world you have created, believes in it, admires you for guiding and leading her in that world.

But that world cannot be stagnant, stale or boring.

It's a world that grows over time, she might hate it later or fall more in love with it later in life, it doesn't matter - it is ur world, ur creation of paradise on earth, she can either follow you or leave you.

And that's how I live my life.

 

[MrMoney]

The fanboys should head to Asia.

A former friend of mine, he was always targeting one specific type of females, young chill girls who would like to play video games, watch movies and do drugs. Essentially he was looking for someone who would not confront him for being a lazy manchild. Went from one relationship to another, girls always leaving him once they got older and smarter. From what I've heard, he now hasn't been intimate with a woman for a long time. Which is sad, and obvious, because no sane woman wants a 35 year old manchild. The root cause that makes him fail with women is clear, but unless something huge and life changing happens, he most likely chooses the easy way out, by consuming porn and perhaps looking easier options from elsewhere in the world.
An extreme example perhaps, and it might be completely different case with OP. But still, I don't think the discussion should be about spoon-feeding answers for "where all the good women at", the question in that situation should simply be "what can a man do to improve himself?". But a difficult question to answer without knowing OP personally.

 

[Spaz]

A former friend of mine, he was always targeting one specific type of females, young chill girls who would like to play video games, watch movies and do drugs. Essentially he was looking for someone who would not confront him for being a lazy manchild. Went from one relationship to another, girls always leaving him once they got older and smarter. From what I've heard, he now hasn't been intimate with a woman for a long time. Which is sad, and obvious, because no sane woman wants a 35 year old manchild. The root cause that makes him fail with women is clear, but unless something huge and life changing happens, he most likely chooses the easy way out, by consuming porn and perhaps looking easier options from elsewhere in the world.
An extreme example perhaps, and it might be completely different case with OP. But still, I don't think the discussion should be about spoon-feeding answers for "where all the good women at", the question in that situation should simply be "what can a man do to improve himself?". But a difficult question to answer without knowing OP personally.

All you can ever hope for; that 1 of the readers see the folly of it all and change path.

Take comfort in that.

The rest will remain the same and get the same results time over time...each time blaming circumstances other then themselves.

It is natural selection at play.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I've read abt what you said abt Sweden, whilst it's true that the women there are more masculine then say France it's mainly because of the men that's there.

Women are just mirror images of men.

And if you're truly spent any sort of quality time in Stockholm, you'll notice how beautiful the men are, flawless hair grooming, up to date fashion sense, fantastic taste in shoes and watches.

And they'll spend a fvckton of time dressing up just to go clubbing.

While Spaz is the total opposite of that.

Wanna take a wild guess who gets the girls ?

Btw, since u r asking, I travel to Sweden at least 3-4 per year for years now.

From a genetical point of view I saw in scandinavian countries the best looking men especially when it comes of facial traits, the right ratio between masculine frame and good proportion yet that doesnt change anything about how women behave, they are polluted for cultural reasons being feminism strong as fvck there while political correctness is a religion.

We got it you are cool, suave and you get women everywhere (basically like every user in this board except for me and mike32), great for you really but we're talking about which countries offer the best chances for men in general for both short term relationships and long term ones.

I didnt make a list but from 1 to 10 but gave different countries a different "color", all the guys working with me agree on such rate except non white guys that dont particularly like certain areas that I do and like certain areas that I dont.

Whoever say that an average english guy working an average job that struggles in london will fail in poland or ukraine by default simply cause he cant get any in his own country, its moronic beyond salvation.

How is it even possible to imagine that countries under feminist propaganda for less than 10 yrs can produce the same women that countries under such propaganda for half a century can, how is it even possible to think that women used to see their mothers and father togheter will turn the same as women used to see from forever their father being devaluated and kicked out from home from bossy mothers.

I really dont understand how the impact of culture, laws and social settings can be denied with a "women are the same everywhere"....guess from this point of view men should be the same everywhere too.

If women are the same everywhere how comes certain countries have a 50% divorce rate while others dont? so as I say culture and laws have an impact when it comes of women behaviour.

 

[Spaz]

From a genetical point of view I saw in scandinavian countries the best looking men especially when it comes of facial traits, the right ratio between masculine frame and good proportion yet that doesnt change anything about how women behave, they are polluted for cultural reasons being feminism strong as fvck there while political correctness is a religion.

We got it you are cool, suave and you get women everywhere (basically like every user in this board except for me and mike32), great for you really but we're talking about which countries offer the best chances for men in general for both short term relationships and long term ones.

I didnt make a list but from 1 to 10 but gave different countries a different "color", all the guys working with me agree on such rate except non white guys that dont particularly like certain areas that I do and like certain areas that I dont.

Whoever say that an average english guy working an average job that struggles in london will fail in poland or ukraine by default simply cause he cant get any in his own country, its moronic beyond salvation.

How is it even possible to imagine that countries under feminist propaganda for less than 10 yrs can produce the same women that countries under such propaganda for half a century can, how is it even possible to think that women used to see their mothers and father togheter will turn the same as women used to see from forever their father being devaluated and kicked out from home from bossy mothers.

I really dont understand how the impact of culture, laws and social settings can be denied with a "women are the same everywhere"....guess from this point of view men should be the same everywhere too.

If women are the same everywhere how comes certain countries have a 50% divorce rate while others dont? so as I say culture and laws have an impact when it comes of women behaviour.

Yes the swedes has the best looking guys but sadly the most effeminated too - you didn't get my hint at my previous post hence the directness of this.

If there's anyone here from Sweden, no offence man, it's just is to me.

My meaning throughout this thread boils down to this; women will mold their entire being to suit to the man provided he displays all the leadership traits of a masculine man + high EQ.

As such it doesn't matter if that man is in London, Azerbaijan, Timbaktu or on the future colony of Mar's, he will be desired, admired, lusted over by young or older women in said places.

Sure you can find a woman that has been imbued with all the ideal womanly traits that men the world over dream of - this traits can only ever be produced in countries with strong masculine leadership there. However that woman has been exposed to high levels of masculinity, knows it and expects leadership. The question you and everyone here should ask, are you up to the task ?

If not, you will fail with the perfect woman.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Yes the swedes has the best looking guys but sadly the most effeminated too - you didn't get my hint at my previous post hence the directness of this.

If there's anyone here from Sweden, no offence man, it's just is to me.

My meaning throughout this thread boils down to this; women will mold their entire being to suit to the man provided he displays all the leadership traits of a masculine man + high EQ.

As such it doesn't matter if that man is in London, Azerbaijan, Timbaktu or on the future colony of Mar's, he will be desired, admired, lusted over by young or older women in said places.

Sure you can find a woman that has been imbued with all the ideal womanly traits that men the world over dream of - this traits can only ever be produced in countries with strong masculine leadership there. However that woman has been exposed to high levels of masculinity, knows it and expects leadership. The question you and everyone here should ask, are you up to the task ?

If not, you will fail with the perfect woman.

Thats not the point we were talking about, Op asked a precise question.

I will say it pretty straight, an average looking men with an average work has basically no value unless he accept post walls or fat women in most western countries, in such countries women would rather be chads play toy than his special one.

In other countries with a different culture and a different demography that same man could get a much better deal in terms of short terms and long terms, I dont understand whats so complicate to understand unless you feel the need to tell us the story of the top tier that gets everything everywhere.

Well no sh1t a 6'2 millionaire that looks like brad pitt would score anywhere, but about the average man which is about 70% of men?

The guy asked if there are countries where dealing with women its worth the hassle and I said that in certain countries normal women are still affordable from normal men while they are young and attractive and at the same time the local culture and law makes sure they treat them good while in others they tend to be overweigh, ugly and feminists while being a pain in the ass to deal with.

What is so complicate to understand?

Op asked in which country dealing with women is still worth the hassle, the question is simple so is the answer unless we are looking for reasons to brag or repeat some dj catchphrase.

Do you believe planes full of average british, italians and spanish going east are a coincidence or its due of what the average woman in their countries is and behave?

The first users to reply got the point but apparently it was not so clear what he asked for.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yes the swedes has the best looking guys but sadly the most effeminated too - you didn't get my hint at my previous post hence the directness of this.

If there's anyone here from Sweden, no offence man, it's just is to me.

My meaning throughout this thread boils down to this; women will mold their entire being to suit to the man provided he displays all the leadership traits of a masculine man + high EQ.

As such it doesn't matter if that man is in London, Azerbaijan, Timbaktu or on the future colony of Mar's, he will be desired, admired, lusted over by young or older women in said places.

Sure you can find a woman that has been imbued with all the ideal womanly traits that men the world over dream of - this traits can only ever be produced in countries with strong masculine leadership there. However that woman has been exposed to high levels of masculinity, knows it and expects leadership. The question you and everyone here should ask, are you up to the task ?

If not, you will fail with the perfect woman.

Th3 culture effiminated them. Basically masculine behavior is outlawed. For crying out loud they can't even spread their legs to alliw room for their balls.

 

[Spaz]

Th3 culture effiminated them. Basically masculine behavior is outlawed. For crying out loud they can't even spread their legs to alliw room for their balls.

I honestly don't know how the culture emasculated large sections of the males there.

Over the years I've often wondered about it, perhaps it's the extreme cold that made most people stay in and not go out, perhaps it's as you say or perhaps boys had too much female programming whilst growing up, no one can be certain for sure - not even the swedish man, they of course blame the girls behaviour.

1 thing I know for certain, huge numbers of swedish males has opted to work overseas and seems like only the effeminated ones decided to stay - that's my perception.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I honestly don't know how the culture emasculated large sections of the males there.

Over the years I've often wondered about it, perhaps it's the extreme cold that made most people stay in and not go out, perhaps it's as you say or perhaps boys had too much female programming whilst growing up, no one can be certain for sure - not even the swedish man, they of course blame the girls behaviour.

1 thing I know for certain, huge numbers of swedish males has opted to work overseas and seems like only the effeminated ones decided to stay - that's my perception.

I honestly don't know how the culture emasculated large sections of the males there.

Over the years I've often wondered about it, perhaps it's the extreme cold that made most people stay in and not go out, perhaps it's as you say or perhaps boys had too much female programming whilst growing up, no one can be certain for sure - not even the swedish man, they of course blame the girls behaviour.

1 thing I know for certain, huge numbers of swedish males has opted to work overseas and seems like only the effeminated ones decided to stay - that's my perception.

Why would you leave your own country if your "the man" there? You see the laws there are several times worse than the USA. They literally opress masculinity. As you noticed the smart guys left the country.

 

[Spaz]

Why would you leave your own country if your "the man" there? You see the laws there are several times worse than the USA. They literally opress masculinity. As you noticed the smart guys left the country.

It's not just the law's.

I think Singapore has more oppressive laws against men and yet their society seems balanced somehow.

In the past the Scandinavian men would travel and kidnap women from other areas thus providing offspring with genetically superior genes via gene variations that has greater mutations which made the men amongst the most feared but they can't do it now hence the degradation of their genetic pool - this is what some told me, perhaps true or perhaps not but many swedish man that's in their 40's has married a 2nd wife producing beautiful smart kids.

 

[Newbee2]

Perfect woman.. you are stretching it too far, putting these words together... fairly good woman, is a 10. Better does not exist.

Yeah most men has been feminized in scandinavia, and women are not in their right place.. I'm from there, and I don't want any of these women. Sure they are pretty, but but thats not enough for LTR marriage potencial.

These women cannot be beaten down to anything that resembles a balanced masculine or. feminine in relationship. The social conditioning is simply too strong. Divorce too high, and the wellfair is too good. Meaning a single mom will have more money living alone, than in courtship.

I have choices in my home country, but why settle for a disaster wating to happen?

That's why I'm searching around, for the best possible option

black, white, yellow or brown I don't care...

I like brown though, poco bias'ed

 

[Spaz]

Perfect woman.. you are stretching it too far, putting these words together... fairly good woman, is a 10. Better does not exist.

Yeah most men has been feminized in scandinavia, and women are not in their right place.. I'm from there, and I don't want any of these women. Sure they are pretty, but but thats not enough for LTR marriage potencial.

These women cannot be beaten down to anything that resembles a balanced masculine or. feminine in relationship. The social conditioning is simply too strong. Divorce too high, and the wellfair is too good. Meaning a single mom will have more money living alone, than in courtship.

I have choices in my home country, but why settle for a disaster wating to happen?

That's why I'm searching around, for the best possible option

black, white, yellow or brown I don't care...

I like brown though, poco bias'ed

Exactly my meaning, no such thing as the perfect woman.

But for the purpose of producing an offspring that's genetically superior and general happiness then get a woman that's not from Scandinavia.

A rough estimate amongst my colleagues that's from Sweden whom works as expatriates, a good 60% ends up marrying local women where they are based. Seems to work for them.

While some got married with South Americans, most ended up with Asians - Koreans, Japs, Thais, Indonesians, Malaysians and Filipinos. None I know off took any from mainland China.

Get those high cultured girls, those will be ur best bet.

 

[Newbee2]

Exactly my meaning, no such thing as the perfect woman.

But for the purpose of producing an offspring that's genetically superior and general happiness then get a woman that's not from Scandinavia.

A rough estimate amongst my colleagues that's from Sweden whom works as expatriates, a good 60% ends up marrying local women where they are based. Seems to work for them.

While some got married with South Americans, most ended up with Asians - Koreans, Japs, Thais, Indonesians, Malaysians and Filipinos. None I know off took any from mainland China.

Get those high cultured girls, those will be ur best bet.

Yes exactly, now we are talking.. there are better options around, than feminist's that's for sure..

The question is what cultures is good regarding marriage? There are good and bad everywhere.

Luxembourg 87% divorce rate, that's not a place to look for a partner in life..

Divorce Rate by Country: The World’s 10 Most and Least Divorced Nations [Updated for 2023]

Divorce is becoming more and more common. This guide goes through the divorce rate by country around the world's 10 most and least Divorced Nations

www.unifiedlawyers.com.au

Europe is worse than USA in divorce rate.. that should tell people alot.

Anyway the countries with lowest divorces, needs to be investigated for marriage potential. Not the other way around

A good strong foundation, is prefered when looking at risk / benifit factor regarding this subject. "Handle with care" because divorce, kids etc. Is a big deal. Better to start good, than waste energy on a doomed project. Aka. Turn a Ho or femisist into a housewife

 

[Spaz]

Yes exactly, now we are talking.. there are better options around, than feminist's that's for sure..

The question is what cultures is good regarding marriage? There are good and bad everywhere.

Luxembourg 87% divorce rate, that's not a place to look for a partner in life..

Divorce Rate by Country: The World’s 10 Most and Least Divorced Nations [Updated for 2023]

Divorce is becoming more and more common. This guide goes through the divorce rate by country around the world's 10 most and least Divorced Nations

www.unifiedlawyers.com.au

Europe is worse than USA in divorce rate.. that should tell people alot.

Anyway the countries with lowest divorces, needs to be investigated for marriage potential. Not the other way around

A good strong foundation, is prefered when looking at risk / benifit factor regarding this subject. "Handle with care" because divorce, kids etc. Is a big deal. Better to start good, than waste energy on a doomed project. Aka. Turn a Ho or femisist into a housewife

Those guys that I mentioned settled down with local women had to put in the effort to be better men.

These city boys had to trek through the jungles of Laos to install 250kva gensets, some got roughened up in the jungles of Burma, some had to tough it out on crappy old gunboats trying to sell marine engines for days on end etc.

This turned them from boys in men bodies into real man.

They endured and learned.

There's no shortcut.

If you want to marry some chick in some country, move there 1st, learn like the rest, be better and greater, only then start a family that would be proud to call you a husband and a father.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Those guys that I mentioned settled down with local women had to put in the effort to be better men.

These city boys had to trek through the jungles of Laos to install 250kva gensets, some got roughened up in the jungles of Burma, some had to tough it out on crappy old gunboats trying to sell marine engines for days on end etc.

This turned them from boys in men bodies into real man.

They endured and learned.

There's no shortcut.

If you want to marry some chick in some country, move there 1st, learn like the rest, be better and greater, only then start a family that would be proud to call you a husband and a father.

This is what the feminism shyt test is all about.

 

[Spaz]

This is what the feminism shyt test is all about.

What is the feminism shiet test?

Be specific so that those reading would understand.