Another Thought on Younglings

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I woke up this morning thinking about something I posted last night, that is apparently still under moderation. I came down pretty hard on guys our age who don't have it together.

Here's why.

There's a mindset that pervades American culture in which couples are expected to build a life together. A couple gets married out of college, goes through a series of ****ty jobs, ****ty apartments, ****ty amounts of debt, ****ty diapers, ya da ya da. They tackle these things as a couple, and overcome them together and make something better for themselves over the years. It's part of our cultural process. It's expected.

When you, a man in your 40's or 50's, meet a girl who's still at the age where she's building a life out of nothing, there's a disconnect. She doesn't know how to handle it. Society hasn't prepared her for this.

Some girls don't want that struggle of building a life together; or at least, they don't want someone to share the load.

This is why money, status, and maturity all matter. Because the younger girls who are attracted to older men -- and man, are they out there! -- are not looking to BUILD a life with somebody. They are either looking to build their own lives independently, or they're slackers and gold-diggers who just want to move into the life that you've built for yourself, already.

I'm dating three girls now, all much younger than me (okay, two and a half girls -- one's away at college but she comes back for winter break next week), all of whom have their own thing going on. Their own careers, their own adventures, no interest (at this point) in kids or moving in together, etc.

I've been through a series of dates with younger women, and I turn and run if she has no job, no aspirations, or if she asks me to take her shopping. (Americanized Asian women are the worst at this, BTW. Wow. Which is a shame, because gray hair and a Porsche are apparently catnip to Asian women.)

But if you don't have yourself -- your finances, your home, your physique, your kids, your ex-wife situation if you have one -- together, then it's just drama for a younger woman. She doesn't want to help you sort your life out. She doesn't want drama. She wants things simple.

If she wanted to baby along somebody who has no money and no position in life, and spend the next ten years patting him on the shoulder and saying things like, "It's okay, baby. We'll make it work somehow," she'd be dating someone from her work, or she'd be out at a dance club hitting on some 25-year-old who's carrying six figures of law school debt, living with roommates, and driving a car he still makes payments on. Somebody who wears square-toed shoes and a digital watch and still thinks that drinking Maker's straight makes him mature.

Girls who want guys our age don't want all the trappings of guys their own age. Some of you are making yourselves nuts trying to "compete" with guys in their 20's. That's insane. The gym culture especially feeds into this.

Get yourselves together. Accumulate what women want, then offer it. They will come. And come. And come. Because one other thing you can offer that a 25-year-old can't -- and they know this -- is an encyclopedic knowledge of ways to bring them to orgasm.

Have fun.
 

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Hi Pierce,
Bluddy good post mate...generally concur with all you say.....Do feel you are a bit tough on Asian Women though...Many excellent Women amongst them..Loyal to the extreme...never bring one in,too hard to house train....
Get one who has married a dead beat...she will have done the hard yards with him,represents good value to you...certainly Mainland Chinese Women I know,are just not into Cars at all...wealth,education,stability,status and social standing are what floats their boat!
 

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It's something I've noticed with Americanized Asian girls, girls whose parents emigrated, or "half-gen" girls, meaning they were born overseas but raised here. At least in the area where I live, many girls of these two generations in the 25-35 range are extremely materialistic, fussy, and expect to be pampered. I'm fairly well-off but I'm not up for throwing away my disposable income. She can find some other sucker.

I don't really have a thing for Asian girls but I like taut ballerina physiques with A-cups, and it just so happens that Asian girls have 'em. It's a pity that most of them seem to be crazy. But that's for another thread.

Cheers.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
So true, and I've only dated down 7 years max. You are cheap housing to them. Even the educated ones.
I'm dating down 20 years. Well, ****ing down, anyway. I'm *dating* down 12 and 15 years right now, respectively.

It's really not about housing. That's not what I'm getting at. The girls I'm dating don't want to move in with me. They don't even want me to buy them nice things; they've never asked.

I do have a nice place to spend a weekend, a boat to watch the sunset on with a bottle of wine, season tickets to the symphony, a car that's a kick in the *** to drive this time of year with the leaves turning, but these are things that I would have anyway, without them. "Hey, I have an extra ticket for the symphony on Saturday. You should come." "I'm doing a half-marathon Sunday, but I was thinking to grill a couple of swordfish steaks on my yacht afterwards. Meet me at the finish line."

I have a full life that does not include them; they tag along because I'm apparently awesome.

The important thing is, they're not looking to start from the ground floor and build the very beginnings of a life together with a guy my age. And I see a lot of emphasis placed on getting yourself into a position where you appear to be an ideal mate, and that, in my recent experience, just doesn't happen at this age. You are no longer an ideal mate by any current socially-accepted measure. You have to play the game differently from the schmo's in their 20's who are looking for The One.

I'm just saying get yourself together and become someone who's fun to be with. The house, the sportscar, the boat, the hobbies and interests, are all part of that.

Maybe I'm not saying this right. I'm not saying let your FB's move in, I'm not saying buy girls nice things. In fact, I advise running away from the clearly-materialistic ones. Having nice things and a lifestyle where you can enjoy them, though, is part of being competitive. We have a corner on that market. Or at least, by this age, you should.
 

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I should add, too, that I'm a fairly recent widower so I missed the last 15 years of dating advice. Maybe I'm doing this wrong.

But I'm smashing three young hardbodies including a co-ed who says she has to get on her phone and look up some of the things I do to her, so I'm guessing I'm not.
 
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