Another POF Date tonight - Plan on getting buzzed beforehand and going for Kiss

[Reyaj]

I'll post back on how this goes. This girl is a very attractive red head who replied back very slowly to POF messages but finally gave me her # and we are meeting tonight.

I am going to try and go for the kiss unless its obvious I can't get it. I want to keep posting examples to see if we can come up with anything concrete. I also want to recount all my past experiences (are as much as I can remember) and post an official journal with lesson. I know I've been saying this for a long ass time but stay tuned.

I'm doing it for me as only real world experience can be confirmed.

 

[Reyaj]

Ok the kiss attempt didn't happen. We end up meeting for drinks... She greeted with a hug I wanted to sit up at the bar so i could kino easier but the bar was full so we had to sit at a table. I hate that when you have this barrier in between...

Well anyway I thought i was doing good... I had the girl talking a lot about her rock climbing hobby and then she told me she was a vegan and went into this long rant about eating healthy and how dairy and meat were bad. I teased her a bit how I love meat and blah blah blah Anyway I asked her if she wanted another drink and she said no she'd be drunk. From my experience its usually not a good sign when a girl doesn't want another drink but this girl was very thin so I kind of believe it.

Anyway I am thinking I am going to try a kiss if I could get isolation. I end up paying for the drink and I told her I parked a little far away and asked her if she could drive me. She seemed taken back a bit but said she could. We got in her car and she drove me back. I was going to go for a kiss close when she pulled her car next to mine but she said "awkward car hug" and sort of turned her head... I just didn't feel the vibe she wanted it and it felt awkward so I didn't do it.

Anyway i basically don't see what i can do here... but I texted her for the hell of it after "nice meeting you tonight, hope you made it home safe" she responded after a bit "Yes I did. nice meeting you too, thank you for the drink!"

I think either this girl is not into me or she wants to be courted... Should I just text this girl one night to hang out and try to invite myself over there? Nothing to lose right

 

[Reyaj]

I forgot this girl said she is flying to Florida today to see her mother. I sent her a text earlier "hope you have a nice trip to Florida. We should plan something when you're back"

How AFC was that? lol

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Not doing it right.

You don't drink. Keep witts about you. If she's getting bombed, next her.

You want to be forged in the fire.

You want to feel for when to kiss, when to push, pull or next a girl.

Three times, no sex, I next her on the grounds of low libido /sex drive, and new girls turning 18 everyday.

When you meet, did you hug? Does she reciprocate? Does she lean on or out? A girl leaned out on a hug, leaned in to kiss me at the end. I did not reciprocate.

Is she on the early or later side of 20?

These are key factors for depicting female motivation. You want top form SMV not cratered SMV or declining. You want fun, horny, and party years not babies, bills, and divorce.

 

[Reyaj]

Yep she hugged me solid. She is 29. She was just kind of weird.. She is a vegan and has all these crazy health theories. I thought it went well though, i think I made her feel awkard at the end asking to go into her car.. A lot of times with girls this works but she seemed like it was a weird request.. So maybe that's why.. She answered my first text with what i posted above, I sent that 2nd text 2 days later which she didn't respond to, and then i sent another text a few days ago "or not "

No response.. She is pretty but flat chested and kind of annoying with her health views. All an experiment.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Not doing it right.

So, your going to throw off brain chemistry and grow dad bod to kiss a girl?

Is your testosterone that low?


You go in to kiss because that's what you want. You lead. She follows or next set.

Life's too ****ing boring not to try.

If she doesn't reciprocate, you assume low sex drive, and you discard on said fact.


Her fertility and biology is failing her. Top form is slipping away usually by 23. Not saying you won't hit it. Just she's begun to get fat.



Turn into the skid. You want to think. You want to breathe into your balls. Feel the anxiety or discomfort. Breathe into it. Be forged in the fire.

Masculinity gets women wet. Not cowardice girlie men needing to be inebriated to kiss her. She can find men 50+ using viagra.

Hot cold? Take **** out. Take that ambiguity.

 

[Reyaj]

I actually met this girl without having a phone conversation at all. Usually most girls I end up meeting I talk to them on the phone first and I build IL.

We had a pretty convo, but i think i need to work on conversation where she gets aroused. They call it "Romantic questions" Anyone have any advice?

I definitely think i messed up by asking to get in her car.. I should have just walked her to her car and if I was going to try a kiss try it then and there.

 

[malz1]

Don't worry about the kiss so much on your next date. It's an unnecessary goal to move things forward. Would have also tried to take her home the same night.

 

[Mazer]

Yes, def some AFC moves on your part. Go for the kiss mid-date, Its unpredictable, chicks love shiit like that if they are interested. Most guys wait until the end of the date. Don’t be that guy. Stand out. It will also determine if she is truly attracted to you so you aren’t wasting your time. I went from zero plates to four plates, all started with a kiss mid date. Have no fear bro!

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

Ok the kiss attempt didn't happen. We end up meeting for drinks... She greeted with a hug I wanted to sit up at the bar so i could kino easier but the bar was full so we had to sit at a table. I hate that when you have this barrier in between...

Yeah what I learned from my last PoF date is that you should check out the venue before you go there and assess whether it's good for cultivating an intimate atmosphere and so on. It's surprising how much of a difference that can make.

Last PoF date I had was at a really nice pub with good food, but the table was f*cking massive and it made the whole date feel very cold and distant, we didn't even touch hands or anything for the entire date, even when she was leaning over the table to me.

There's a c*cktail bar near me that has those high standing tables with the tall chairs, where you either stand or sit rather closely on the chairs while you drink. I may go there for my next date, because it's infinitely easier to just lean in close when talking or whatever.

A bit of noise can help too, as well as hinder. Last year I was in a really loud club, I leaned forward to hear what my female friend was shouting and we ended up so close that my lips were touching her cheek. It wasn't even intentional but it worked really well.

 

[Ranger]

Maybe if you went out with the goal to have sex, at least you would have gotten a kiss or your hand in her pants. Just saying.