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She drank all those drinks too, supposedly to be on his coin...
Annoying date - walked out
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Online dating just means trash women no lo ger have to be attractive or have value. They just need to be there.
You did come across as being a bit of an uptight guy. The date obviously went on too long. Bar dates are crappy anyway. Was it your sugestion? if it was hers then that is a fail rigjht there.
She wanted to flirt and you didn't much. When she made the shower comment you should have called her bluff and said. "ok let's go". She wanted to get drunk and f*ck. Tag, you're it for tonight.
If you just didn't like her you should have bailed sooner rather than 6 drinks and food.
I agree with @deesade (never thought I would say those words LOL) but the chase is the fun part. When it is being thrown at you it ca? Be remarkably unnatractive).
You did come across as being a bit of an uptight guy. The date obviously went on too long. Bar dates are crappy anyway. Was it your sugestion? if it was hers then that is a fail rigjht there.
She wanted to flirt and you didn't much. When she made the shower comment you should have called her bluff and said. "ok let's go". She wanted to get drunk and f*ck. Tag, you're it for tonight.
If you just didn't like her you should have bailed sooner rather than 6 drinks and food.
I agree with @deesade (never thought I would say those words LOL) but the chase is the fun part. When it is being thrown at you it ca? Be remarkably unnatractive).
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Yeah noted. Drinks are dine imo for a guy to pay for. But a full meal for nothing in return? Nah. So what are you trying to point out exactly?
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I understand op, I had a similar date it terms of disgusting stuff from her part thankfully she understood Im not the kind of guy she could say "you might be lucky" as if my sex life depends on her.
In that case, she was pretty goodlooking but the amount of disgusting stuff she told me like sleeping on public squares while travelling or hooking up with a gipsy and spending the week in his camp really killed my libido, after such things not even a 90s porn star in her best moment could make me horny.
Her behaviour seemed borderline to me between the desire to fvck and the desire to test you and create drama for her amusement, that "hope you showered cause you might get lucky" its a huge red flag, it basically tease you in order to control you while subcommunicating that its her deciding if you have fvck or not.
In that case, she was pretty goodlooking but the amount of disgusting stuff she told me like sleeping on public squares while travelling or hooking up with a gipsy and spending the week in his camp really killed my libido, after such things not even a 90s porn star in her best moment could make me horny.
Her behaviour seemed borderline to me between the desire to fvck and the desire to test you and create drama for her amusement, that "hope you showered cause you might get lucky" its a huge red flag, it basically tease you in order to control you while subcommunicating that its her deciding if you have fvck or not.
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As long as trashy women continue to get validated by men there will be trashy women.
Sadly OLD is a free validation service for women. They dont even need to go on dates to have ridiculous numbers of men fawning over them.
Sadly OLD is a free validation service for women. They dont even need to go on dates to have ridiculous numbers of men fawning over them.
Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.
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I like setting boundaries in life--whether its dating or business----- because it works 90% of the time ----and at the very least keeps your self-esteem and dignity intact. I value my personal boundaries, dignity, and self esteem over sex/beautiful girl.
I may be uptight sometimes, but use it to my advantage in a situations when its warranted.
Example 1 date. My instinct was to dump this cvnt flat and let her deal with the mess left behind. She wasn't complimenting me, she was negging me, trying to act cool and trying to get the upperhand on me. She was a jerk, but I became a bigger jerk by pulling the "trigger" and walking out.
I was uptight because I sensed she didn't "wasn't feeling" it with me. I sensed it.
She didn't sell me and I didn't sell her. It was break even.
I didn't get laid, but kept my dignity intact. The key is to listen "between the lines." What is really being said and watch their actions.
Example 2 date. My date a few months ago. She sold herself to me. She made me laugh, she bought me a shot, but I kept the bar tab separate from hers. I cracked a few jokes and one-liners, I told her a few entertaining stories, I was engaged in the conversation, was friendly, but not overly enthusiastic. She was engaged and friendly. I was relaxed and light-hearted--not mean or deep. Kind of serious when I first met her though. I didn't smile much. Just smirked.
At the end of the night she granted me three wishes..I told her exactly what I wanted.(smiled then)
She gave me the best sex at the end of the date and I didn't have to buy her drinks or anything.
Some women are into you and some aren't. But I believe someone ALWAYS gets sold. She got sold.
I may be uptight sometimes, but use it to my advantage in a situations when its warranted.
Example 1 date. My instinct was to dump this cvnt flat and let her deal with the mess left behind. She wasn't complimenting me, she was negging me, trying to act cool and trying to get the upperhand on me. She was a jerk, but I became a bigger jerk by pulling the "trigger" and walking out.
I was uptight because I sensed she didn't "wasn't feeling" it with me. I sensed it.
She didn't sell me and I didn't sell her. It was break even.
I didn't get laid, but kept my dignity intact. The key is to listen "between the lines." What is really being said and watch their actions.
Example 2 date. My date a few months ago. She sold herself to me. She made me laugh, she bought me a shot, but I kept the bar tab separate from hers. I cracked a few jokes and one-liners, I told her a few entertaining stories, I was engaged in the conversation, was friendly, but not overly enthusiastic. She was engaged and friendly. I was relaxed and light-hearted--not mean or deep. Kind of serious when I first met her though. I didn't smile much. Just smirked.
At the end of the night she granted me three wishes..I told her exactly what I wanted.(smiled then)
She gave me the best sex at the end of the date and I didn't have to buy her drinks or anything.
Some women are into you and some aren't. But I believe someone ALWAYS gets sold. She got sold.
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I dunno about you guys, but I see a lot of insecurity in there, especially with the dude in the santa shirt...
-If she was fat and ugly, why did you take her on a date?
-Sounded like she was just fvcking with you and you probably could have tapped it
-After a few drinks? Sounds like she got out of hand fast. All of dates I have been on, the women will drink 1-2 with one exception
-What is the big deal with the sexual innuendos text? If it started that early, you should have just had a drink or two and had her at your place
Then questioning the chemistry? smh...
-If she was fat and ugly, why did you take her on a date?
-Sounded like she was just fvcking with you and you probably could have tapped it
-After a few drinks? Sounds like she got out of hand fast. All of dates I have been on, the women will drink 1-2 with one exception
-What is the big deal with the sexual innuendos text? If it started that early, you should have just had a drink or two and had her at your place
Then questioning the chemistry? smh...
Why tell her she is not attracted? She will believe you.
Walking away was ok, but stiffing her with the tab was really lame. You should have dropped a $100 bill on the bar (you stiffed the bartender too) and then walked out, like a man with options and a job. You basically stole drinks from the bar and forced a woman to pay for you. You proved her right!
Walking away was ok, but stiffing her with the tab was really lame. You should have dropped a $100 bill on the bar (you stiffed the bartender too) and then walked out, like a man with options and a job. You basically stole drinks from the bar and forced a woman to pay for you. You proved her right!
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"Stiffing her was lame...you stiffed the bartender too, you forced a woman to pay for you."
I walked out without much thought --- other than this chick is starting to annoy me.
She can deal with it.
I walked out without much thought --- other than this chick is starting to annoy me.
She can deal with it.
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Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.
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you left, and you left her with the bill. I would've done the same thing. **** it. I like to **** girls who I atleast have something in common with. It ain't all about getting laid just to get laid sometimes.
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Did you leave because "there is no chemistry" or because you didn't want to **** her?
The only way to actually know if there is chemistry is to try to **** her and not to ask her.
But if she was just repulsive to you, I get it. Next.
The only way to actually know if there is chemistry is to try to **** her and not to ask her.
But if she was just repulsive to you, I get it. Next.
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Me too. This thread is about allowing trashy people to drag you down to their level, and then trying to claim some sort of victory out of it.
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My thoughts are....you guys talk about having to teach females how to treat you and OP did just that.
As a female I can guarantee you that this female now has some PTSD surrounding dating and HER attitude on dates. She can text him her smoke screen BS later all she wants, she WILL think twice about behaving in this manner ever again on a date, as she well should. She thought she had the upper hand. (I'm assuming) She thought her T&A were going to get her a free pass to be an a$$. She thought wrong. OP has definitely made an impression on her ego and she wont forget this. It's a good thing.
Is there room for OP's improvement in this scenario? Yep. Stiffing the bartender, and stooping to her level, agreed, these are no bueno items. Learning how to draw the line earlier is needed. But you have to live the the BS to figure out how to handle it better. Everyone has made some great points and I'm sure he will be able to handle it much better, if not flawlessly, should it ever happen again.
As a female I can guarantee you that this female now has some PTSD surrounding dating and HER attitude on dates. She can text him her smoke screen BS later all she wants, she WILL think twice about behaving in this manner ever again on a date, as she well should. She thought she had the upper hand. (I'm assuming) She thought her T&A were going to get her a free pass to be an a$$. She thought wrong. OP has definitely made an impression on her ego and she wont forget this. It's a good thing.
Is there room for OP's improvement in this scenario? Yep. Stiffing the bartender, and stooping to her level, agreed, these are no bueno items. Learning how to draw the line earlier is needed. But you have to live the the BS to figure out how to handle it better. Everyone has made some great points and I'm sure he will be able to handle it much better, if not flawlessly, should it ever happen again.
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I learned from a lot from the replies of this thread and my actions. All great responses.
I usually screen women well, but this wont happen again. I am definitely setting a limit to 1 hour/1 drink.
First dates are meet and greets only.
I usually screen women well, but this wont happen again. I am definitely setting a limit to 1 hour/1 drink.
First dates are meet and greets only.
Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.
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Sadly this kind of date is common with POF chicks. I ve had them turn up with attitude from the get go. And yes you could turn it around but quite often they are not high enough quality to be worth the effort. I agree with the OP main issue was not terminating earlier. All the subsequent bad flowed from that. When you're stuck in a hole stop digging.
As for the OLD is crap crowd. Basically depends how smart u r. I know my target demographics and how to hook them. Guys who r less cluey should go in with very low expectations and treat it as practice. And the answer is always be an opportunistic. Cute girl in the grocery line..Start talking. Be multichannel.
OLD is more important for us oldies as women tend to go out less and most of the good ones r at home supervising the family.
I d suggest young guys r going to become disillusioned if they soley use OLD.
However it's a great way to tighten up your text game and become more adaptive.
My current g/f was an intro. I chose her over 2 other downloads I had on roster. Last 3 were downloads. 3 before that were social circle again. Women r everywhere.
As for the OLD is crap crowd. Basically depends how smart u r. I know my target demographics and how to hook them. Guys who r less cluey should go in with very low expectations and treat it as practice. And the answer is always be an opportunistic. Cute girl in the grocery line..Start talking. Be multichannel.
OLD is more important for us oldies as women tend to go out less and most of the good ones r at home supervising the family.
I d suggest young guys r going to become disillusioned if they soley use OLD.
However it's a great way to tighten up your text game and become more adaptive.
My current g/f was an intro. I chose her over 2 other downloads I had on roster. Last 3 were downloads. 3 before that were social circle again. Women r everywhere.
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Thanks.....sazc
For the guys who asked me if I wanted to nail her?
She was somewhat attractive, but her personality turned me off.
I couldn't get "turned on" by her c*cky, annoying attitude.
Also, if I sense any testosterone from a woman --- barking orders, busting on people, acting like she is hotter than she is --- I'm done with her.
Some guys like alpha females. Not me.
I like a submissive, feminine woman. Nothing is sexier than a chick who feels vulnerable and is warm-hearted. It is hard to find these days -- but they are out there.
For the guys who asked me if I wanted to nail her?
She was somewhat attractive, but her personality turned me off.
I couldn't get "turned on" by her c*cky, annoying attitude.
Also, if I sense any testosterone from a woman --- barking orders, busting on people, acting like she is hotter than she is --- I'm done with her.
Some guys like alpha females. Not me.
I like a submissive, feminine woman. Nothing is sexier than a chick who feels vulnerable and is warm-hearted. It is hard to find these days -- but they are out there.
