Analyzing a simple situation

[GuanYu]

Ok here's the deal, on Tuesday I was in the bookstore purchasing my books for the upcoming semester and I ran into a hot chick I knew from high school. She was a senior when I was a freshman so we'll just say she's 3-4 years older then I am. We knew each other because she was a football assistant and I played football in HS. Anyways, she didn't even bother to say hi, but I got one of those "someone is watching me" feelings and glanced over at her behind the counter and noticed her checking me out with a huge ass smile on her face. So we do the whole howhaveubeen_blahblah and had a hearty hug. Without hesitating, she wrote her number down for me (I didn't even ask for it) and tells me to come see her sometime.

So I decided what the hell and called her tonight (Thursday). She didn't answer her phone so I figured she was just one of those people that doesn't answer unknown numbers. So, I sent her a text letting her know who it was and asked in the text if she'd want to get together for lunch next Tuesday. She replied back that she was getting her son ready for bed and would call me back, which I replied ok.

Guess what happened after that? You got it ..absolutely nothing. No text, call, nada.

Now, personally, I don't really care since I have a "bottom b!tch" and always have pvssy available to me. Truthfully, I just wanted to bang this chick and maybe keep her on the side. But, it does seem wierd that someone would give you their number without me asking for it and decide not to return calls.

I did everything right from the jump. Established early kino, waited to call, didn't call or text her back when she replied she would call me, the works. Granted it's still Thursday and maybe she's with her babbies daddy or getting some other d!ck, I don't care. I got her voicemail(the first and only time I called) and figured sending a text would be better then leaving a recorded message.

Like I mentioned, I don't really care about who she's with or anything ..I just want to get between her legs.

Does it seem like I did something wrong?
Was the text a bad move?
Could she have been intimidated because I'm a grad student and she was working at the bookstore? (She doesn't attend uni)
Should I next her now or wait?
Should I call her again?

I'm leaning towards a no, but some women are shy like that especially when they haven't seen people in 5+ years.

Maybe I got my answer when I text her asking for lunch and she didn't reply with a response, but claimed she was getting her son ready for sleep.

I know, a lot of questions and thoughts about something so simple. But, I've kinda been out of the game for 3+ years being in a LTR, but I'm ready for some desert or at least appetizers to go with my main course. Game isn't hard to establish, it's merely getting the dates and work with what's given to me. I don't plan on spending lots of time on the phone with sidegrades I get numbers from, just quick conversations then setting up dates. Will this hurt or benefit my plans? You pros help me out

 

[Phyzzle]

Oh, give it one more shot. Women don't like to call men.

When you call or text, do not mention anything at all about her not calling you back. That sort of stuff shouldn't bother you unless you're in some sort of relationship with her. As it is, she's basically a stranger to you.

But don't take it personally if she never sees you. She could have been excited by seeing an old friend and gave you her # without thinking. Then later realized, "oh, crap. He probably thinks I want to date him. Too bad I'm engaged."

 

[edger]

Ok here's the deal, on Tuesday I was in the bookstore purchasing my books for the upcoming semester and I ran into a hot chick I knew from high school. She was a senior when I was a freshman so we'll just say she's 3-4 years older then I am. We knew each other because she was a football assistant and I played football in HS. Anyways, she didn't even bother to say hi, but I got one of those "someone is watching me" feelings and glanced over at her behind the counter and noticed her checking me out with a huge ass smile on her face. So we do the whole howhaveubeen_blahblah and had a hearty hug. Without hesitating, she wrote her number down for me (I didn't even ask for it) and tells me to come see her sometime.

So I decided what the hell and called her tonight (Thursday). She didn't answer her phone so I figured she was just one of those people that doesn't answer unknown numbers. So, I sent her a text letting her know who it was and asked in the text if she'd want to get together for lunch next Tuesday. She replied back that she was getting her son ready for bed and would call me back, which I replied ok.

Guess what happened after that? You got it ..absolutely nothing. No text, call, nada.

Now, personally, I don't really care since I have a "bottom b!tch" and always have pvssy available to me. Truthfully, I just wanted to bang this chick and maybe keep her on the side. But, it does seem wierd that someone would give you their number without me asking for it and decide not to return calls.

I did everything right from the jump. Established early kino, waited to call, didn't call or text her back when she replied she would call me, the works. Granted it's still Thursday and maybe she's with her babbies daddy or getting some other d!ck, I don't care. I got her voicemail(the first and only time I called) and figured sending a text would be better then leaving a recorded message.

Like I mentioned, I don't really care about who she's with or anything ..I just want to get between her legs.

Does it seem like I did something wrong?
Was the text a bad move?
Could she have been intimidated because I'm a grad student and she was working at the bookstore? (She doesn't attend uni)
Should I next her now or wait?
Should I call her again?

I'm leaning towards a no, but some women are shy like that especially when they haven't seen people in 5+ years.

Maybe I got my answer when I text her asking for lunch and she didn't reply with a response, but claimed she was getting her son ready for sleep.

I know, a lot of questions and thoughts about something so simple. But, I've kinda been out of the game for 3+ years being in a LTR, but I'm ready for some desert or at least appetizers to go with my main course. Game isn't hard to establish, it's merely getting the dates and work with what's given to me. I don't plan on spending lots of time on the phone with sidegrades I get numbers from, just quick conversations then setting up dates. Will this hurt or benefit my plans? You pros help me out

Ms. Chicky here's a big FAT waste of time.

You shouldn't have "asked" her if she wants to go out for lunch, because as anyone would tell you here, it doesn't display confidence. "We'll have to hang out", something along those lines would've been better..not a question. That is a game killer.

Even if she's engaged to someone, she could've still answered your question when you asked her "if she wanted to grab lunch". And she could've called you back like she said she'd do. I don't think this was a case of "oh sh*t, this guy prob. thinks I want him, too bad I'm engaged".

You know what? This chick sounds like what else?, a good-for-nothing(besides a good hard f*cking) attention wh*re. She most probably wanted to see if you'd call her, and by doing that would indicate and confirm for her in her mind that you "want" her, hence her ego get's the feeding it needs.

 

[Mr.Positive]

You know what? This chick sounds like what else?, a good-for-nothing(besides a good hard f*cking) attention wh*re. She most probably wanted to see if you'd call her, and by doing that would indicate and confirm for her in her mind that you "want" her, hence her ego get's the feeding it needs.

I'm thinking it's too early to tell yet. Anything could be going on with her, maybe a friend got into an accident or something...I don't see anything gained, by giving up too early.

Be bold, give her another call. Calling twice is bold and confident, but I wouldn't call a third time..

 

[lookyoung]

I would give it another shot, Just don't call right away. Call 4-7 days later. When you do call leave her a voicemail. Usually you weed out the attention hors that way. Attention hors love texting.

Hey its Guanya and its about (state time). Than make up something ( I am actually about to workout but I just wanted to call to talk to you. Give me a call whenever you get a chance.

And than don't call her ever again unless she calls you.

A girl giving a guy her number does not necessarily mean anything. Many times girls give there number out just for the attention with no intention of ever hooking up with you. In my clubbing days I used to get a number from 7 different girls a night and get a date with only 1 of them.

You really did not do anything wrong. As far as talking to girls on the phone. Talk to them and develop some rapport especially girls you meet from a coldapproach. If your a good phone talker woman sometimes feel a connection with you even though its over the phone.

Good luck. Let us know how it works out.

 

[Metro3pilot]

Paralysis by analysis

who cares my man, she's 1 of 1000's of women ...just keep truckin, and if you get bored, try to get with her another time.

:rockon:

 

[GuanYu]

thanks for the tips all. I don't think I'll be calling her again. Afterall, she did say she'd call and if she were truly interested there's no reason for her not to call.

I'm just trying to get extra chicks in bed without much effort(2-3 dates at most) because I'm not really in the mood to put in a lot of work with girls I don't have any intention being in relationships with. I just don't have the time right now.

 

[STR8UP]

Common courtesy isn't something that women tend to extend in the beginning stages of contact.

I agree with the others....chicks don't like to contact in the initial stages. I would give it one more shot but NOT with a text.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

She replied back that she was getting her son ready for bed and would call me back, which I replied ok.

NEXT.

 

[logic1]

Common courtesy isn't something that women tend to extend in the beginning stages of contact.

I have to disagree with this. Mature women with respect and character will return calls and follow up on what they say. Oh yes, there will be some that say you cant go by what a women says. You are right especially with the low qaulity, bottom of the barrel types. But the higher qaulity women will do what they say.

Given they are the minority out there, but they do exist.

To the op "NEXT". Her actions are telling you everything. Takes 2 minutes to return a phone call or text!!! She has a habit of doing this and it wont change.

I could not stay in business or stay socially connected by not returning phone calls!!!

 

[joekerr31]

im with RT, the moment you heard 'son' you should have run for the hills.

moreover, given she has a son she should be JUMPING at the fact that you are giving her the time of day.

sounds to me like she was just flirting with you for the fun of it with no real intentions of acting on it.

and you might say 'no no, it was real. she was in to me.'

but so what. lots of chics might be dating one guy and flirting their *ss off with other guys just to boost their ego up. they have no intention of actually going out with the other guy, they just want to know that he WANTS them.

which is why, in my opinion, when a woman IGNORES (which is what she did) a direct request to go out, you should next her.

even if she is interested, she's telling you right from the get go exactly what you can expect from her moving forward - which is complete rudeness and lack of common courteousy.

for a chic with a kid, displaying this behavior is even worse!

 

[jophil28]

But, it does seem wierd that someone would give you their number without me asking for it and decide not to return calls.

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Welcome to the world of " The Ditzoids" ...

Who knows why she did not get back to you BUT you do know that she does NOT do what she promises. That should be a dealbreaker without a second guess.
Quit trying to figure out WHY a woman acts the way that she does. It is a freakin minefield.

Believe her actions,and to date her behavior is extremely inconsistent - Even if you could convert her into a FWB she would probabl;y be erratic.

 

[GuanYu]

just received a text this morning,

"R U still trying to go to lunch tommorrow?"

I haven't replied yet, but leaning towards calling her back and setting this up. I don't have anything to lose and pvssy to gain. I'm guessing she was testing to see if I'd be hasty and call her back after she never called me.

What you guys think?

 

[mintxx]

analyse complex situations. not simple ones

edit: i call it GPS, golden ***** syndrome

why is pvssy censored for gods sake

 

[TheFlyOne]

Go for it!

 

[MacAvoy]

Go for it!

I agree. She might have gotten tied up with her kid and as Str8Up said "Common courtesy isn't something that women tend to extend in the beginning stages of contact. I agree with the others....chicks don't like to contact in the initial stages. I would give it one more shot but NOT with a text."

I would move away from txts with this women. Women use it as a crutch. Call her to confirm the date & time of the date. If she doesn't answer, txt her "call me when you get a chance to confirm our lunch date" or just "call me when your free, I tried calling you"

 

[GuanYu]

tried calling her back the same day she text, around 7pm or so since I was at work. She never answered. Ah well, win some lose some.

I really wanted to bang this chick too, but if she doesn't know how to answer her phone instead of sending text messages there doesn't seem to be much hope.

At least I got 2 more numbers today to work with. We'll see what happens but i think this chick is a lost cause.

 

[potato]

Did you notice a pattern here? She only responded to your text and only replied with text. I know a few people like this - they just text, never talk on their phone.

There is this woman that I’ve known for about 4 years. I don’t think that we have ever talked on the phone, although we have had many lively chats via text messaging. Currently her phone plan is text only. Try to call and you get a message as if her phone was out of order, yet you can text her all day long.

 

[jophil28]

Common courtesy isn't something that women tend to extend in the beginning stages of contact.

Yeah. I agree - why is that ?
Perhaps their discourtesy is borne from their belief that they are a prize that you are pursuing, and if they like the game that you are creating then they will act more respectfully towards you as they warm up.
That seems to suggest that women do not have any innate regard for men as human beings UNTIL the guy becomes valuable to them . Then they "reward" you with improved behavior.

Maybe I am being too harsh ?

 

[joekerr31]

Yeah. I agree - why is that ?
Perhaps their discourtesy is borne from their belief that they are a prize that you are pursuing, and if they like the game that you are creating then they will act more respectfully towards you as they warm up.
That seems to suggest that women do not have any innate regard for men as human beings UNTIL the guy become valuable to them . Then they "reward" you with improved behavior.

Maybe I am being too harsh ?

nope, bang on the money. they are setting the frame. making the guy chase them. your basic playing hard to get.

its basic behavioral conditioning. if they disrespect the guy in the beginning and he puts up with it, then they know they can behave however they want in the future nad he want leave.

women are experts at sizing up a man and what he will put up with. men on the other hand are horrible at sizing up a woman and judging what they will end up dealing with