Analyze this...

[Malex86]

Ok so i've made a couple of posts about this 10 i exchanged numbers with...

we've dated twice...

first time we met had dinner and drinks with some conversation...

i played it cool and let her text me about how she's looking forward to friday (our second date yesterday)

notes: - She is a 10 (a real 10, she's literally stunning to the point people stop and stare), she's very very smart - speaks 5 different languages, business degree, works in business management and studies law...

so anyway our second date is a comedy show (russell peters), and throughout the date the conversation is pretty shallow but we share some laughs, dinner the conversation is again... there, some laughs... but no real deep connection...

now this girl is very self-aware and conserved about how not to lead a guy on or give the impression of something more...

but on the train ride home... she sat next to me and i put my arm on her seat behind her (i naturally sit like that/spread my arms out) and she leaned into me (she said how tired she was)... so i was like ok that's nice...

then we had to switch trains and the only seats left were this small seat at the back... so i put my arm round her in a hug and she put her head on my chest and fell asleep... untill the ride got bumpy and ridiculous so she sat up but still laying on me....untill she got off at her stop

anyway when she got in i got this text

"hey i got home ok, i had a cool night, thanks!"

i guess she isn't all that interested, she's very popular as well and i'm not down playing myself... i'm thinking that because she was comfortable enough to lay on me she could be interested but who knows...

additional notes: She did the choosing when we first met, lots of IOI's i just got the convo rolling and number closed

 

[Tiguere]

Where is the part about you going in for the kiss? We can't analyze...at least I won't until you post the kiss part.

 

[the305]

you are going to lose her more then likely, the good thing is you know why - you're not creating a connection. you can have every single requirement she has in a guy, but if you cant create chemistry, its not going to happen, simple as that.

start creating a connection/chemisry.

here is some suggestions:
-give her a cute nickname and try and tie it back to a moment you guys shared, she will usually give you one back as well
-do some funyn role playing from time to time, when she acts up, tell her you two are getting a divorce and you are taking the house, 2 dogs, and the car, she can have the coffe machine, because you know how cranky she is in the morning (just ranomly made that up)
-start having a conversation about your mutual interests and what shes passion about, and ask her why shes passionate about it, along with, how it makes her feel when she does xyz

now you need to turn on the smooth game
-"i dont know about you, you seem like trouble, im gonna wrap you up in some proceed with caution yellow tape, lol"
-"there just something about you.. that impresses me, and im not impressed easily"
-"its just funny how, the things you value in your life, i've always valued instinctively, but could just never put them into words, until i met you, yah i know it sounds corny but i just had to tell you"

you need to hit that level of wow'ness where shes goes back to her girlfriends and like THIS is the guy.

 

[the305]

Where is the part about you going in for the kiss? We can't analyze...at least I won't until you post the kiss part.

you don't just go "alpha male" slash 'caveman style" and go for a kiss just because you're on a date.. you go for a kiss when shes comfortable enough, you can gauge her comfort level is plenty of ways

 

[ARrocket]

notes: - She is a 10 (a real 10, she's literally stunning to the point people stop and stare), she's very very smart - speaks 5 different languages, business degree, works in business management and studies law...

Don't put her on a pedestal. She's just another girl. YOU are the catch, remember?

so anyway our second date is a comedy show (russell peters), and throughout the date the conversation is pretty shallow but we share some laughs, dinner the conversation is again... there, some laughs... but no real deep connection...

Russel Peters is the sh!t!!!!! And no I'm not just saying that because I'm Indian. Well maybe I am...

now this girl is very self-aware and conserved about how not to lead a guy on or give the impression of something more...

So why are you assuming she's not interested?

but on the train ride home... she sat next to me and i put my arm on her seat behind her (i naturally sit like that/spread my arms out) and she leaned into me (she said how tired she was)... so i was like ok that's nice...

then we had to switch trains and the only seats left were this small seat at the back... so i put my arm round her in a hug and she put her head on my chest and fell asleep... untill the ride got bumpy and ridiculous so she sat up but still laying on me....untill she got off at her stop

And this, sir, is where this got painful to read. That is pretty much the biggest IOI she can give you at this point besides going in your pants and whipping out your d!ck for you. You get what I'm sayin?

Be naughty. Be sexual. It's what she wants. She wants your c0ck. For real.

When she's leaning on you like that with your arm around her, put a hand on her upper thigh. Start rubbing a little. Get closer to her pvssy. Don't be ridiculous with it, you're on a public train. Be discrete, but be doing SOMETHING. Brush her hair back, kiss her neck, her cheek. GET HER TURNED ON!!!

Enough with all these "dates." Sooner or later you need to get her ALONE someplace PRIVATE so you can isolate. If you don't make your move soon, you will be out of the game. I GUARANTEE IT. Time to man up and take what you want

 

[Malex86]

you don't just go "alpha male" slash 'caveman style" and go for a kiss just because you're on a date.. you go for a kiss when shes comfortable enough, you can gauge her comfort level is plenty of ways

this is EXACTLY why i didn't...

i could of kissed her... but i was thinking about it 2 steps ahead of the game.

This was the first time (second date) she got comfortable enough to get close and relax...

i was thinking i could tilt her head back and kiss her but that would of been an ego move... and she MAY of gone home and thought... "So the first time i get close to this guy he kisses me, how do i feel about this? this is too much too soon."

just my opinion

 

[ARrocket]

you don't just go "alpha male" slash 'caveman style" and go for a kiss just because you're on a date.. you go for a kiss when shes comfortable enough, you can gauge her comfort level is plenty of ways

She seems quite comfortable already. I'm sure Tiguere is not advocating just blindly going in for a kiss, you gotta warm her up first through your kino and your charm!!!! He seems to have her somewhat warmed up, time to finish cooking her, and then stick a fork in her because she will be done!

PS: Dude I can't believe you just typed out "slash"

 

[Malex86]

When she's leaning on you like that with your arm around her, put a hand on her upper thigh. Start rubbing a little. Get closer to her pvssy. Don't be ridiculous with it, you're on a public train. Be discrete, but be doing SOMETHING. Brush her hair back, kiss her neck, her cheek. GET HER TURNED ON!!!

My hand was on her upper thigh and i rubbed it/caress.... the best way to describe it was like she was snuggling up to her daddy (no weirdness, you know what i mean lol)

I know for sure if i started rubbing her ***** she would of saw red and got very mad... she seems respectable, not a throw away fukk...but i am going to need to escalate to a kiss soon

Enough with all these "dates." Sooner or later you need to get her ALONE someplace PRIVATE so you can isolate. If you don't make your move soon, you will be out of the game. I GUARANTEE IT. Time to man up and take what you want

well it was only the second date... early next week because we both initially met on our lunch break i;m going to give her a text while at work saying... what time you taking lunch? lets get coffee...

then i'm going to make it more frequent, more casual if i get that far... and bring her over one night

 

[Malex86]

-"its just funny how, the things you value in your life, i've always valued instinctively, but could just never put them into words, until i met you, yah i know it sounds corny but i just had to tell you"

you need to hit that level of wow'ness where shes goes back to her girlfriends and like THIS is the guy.

Damn that's a good one....

from here how do i slip that in? it's something i should of done yesterday...

fukk

 

[Malex86]

few extra things: I've got both her phone numbers, including her work phone which apparently not many people have, she told her how to pronounce her name properly which not many people do and she appreciates how i remember, i got her to tell me a little bit about life back home in Finland... i should of dug deeper though. She still doesn't know much about me besides my job.. . which i guess is good

she also said she hates being approached by guys while she's out shopping but she said there was "something different about me"... the truth is she was checking me out but she won't admit it...

but i'm worried i fukked up this second date because i was kinda quiet although when i did talk i made her laugh.... i just wasn't acting alpha enough... and i know this, i wasn't grabbing her etc and teasing... i think it's because i had to piss real bad for the majority of the date lol...

but she knows i make the decisions when we're out and i take authority... i told of the waiter infront of us in a diplomatic way coz he fukked up... maybe she liked that...

damn i must be crushing

 

[the305]

ARrocket; yeah i may have jumped the gun a bit on his response - although i would always suggest warming up to a point where theres noo doubt at all, cause that segways well into getting her into bed as well, since you guys have such a solid connection and chemistry built up. I do this with chicks all the time, I have the process down to a week or two max, and its 5-6 different girls at once.

I don't just bang girls because they hot, if i don't actually enjoy their company, i friendzone them, im not a very good liar, i cant fake the funk with a annoying ass model no matter how hot.

Ofcourse its all relative though with the whole, when to make a move when not to.

---

Malex86: Hmmm best option is to just slip it in on the next conversation - its better when its said in person

Something else i usually say is: its so hard to make friends nowadays, remember when we were kids and it was just like check yes or check no if you wanna be my friends, nowadays its like , who do you know that i know? whats your credit score? Do you have a 401k started yet? - but seriously you're really cool, im glad we met, and its kind of exciting to not know what the future holds for us, huh?

THATS game, and its funny how you will rarely ever see "puas" give advice like this, to hit a REALLY deep level, where you just KNOW you got this chick by your finger

 

[Malex86]

ok so i wait a couple of days then text her casually to say... "let's do lunch together today"

this good?

 

[DanelMadr]

First, congrats man. I'm really happy for you and envy you in a good way.

Second, get the f@ck out of here. Stop thinking about her, what to do or what not to do, how to get to her, what it means when she does this....STOP.
The reason for you to stop thinking is to stop worrying. You have to stay cool in order to be your best and you can't do that when you are scared of the future outcome.

Just do what you feel right to do in a way 'what would Maximus Decimus do' aka in accord with wisdom this forum teaches. You know what that is, you don't need reassurance. Just stop thinking, let your fears evaporate and go for it.

 

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

friend zone!!


"I had a cool night, thanks!" sums it all up for me.
Either get the kiss or get denied trying because each second that passes she sees you less of a potential sexual partner and more of a "just friends" type of guy.