An observation on attractive and higher status women in their early 20s.

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Maybe I am thinking too much into this but I look back at it and it kind of struck me. This past Thursday, I was chatting up this tall hot blonde at a bar near me which is mostly college kids, even though the nearest college is 10 miles away and has its own bars which makes zero sense to me. I talk to this girl and she said that she hates going out to college bars and prefers higher end nightclubs.

I notice this so much with women in their early 20s that are attractive and higher status. I am talking about the rich sorority girl from a wealthy family or the girl with model-tier looks. It is almost like they proactively go to places where they are likely to find these creepy older men that society complains about that prey on women rather than just staying in the venues and places they will find men their age at. Even higher status fraternities that throw wild parties do not attract these girls to them as much.

I've seen this in so many major cities where the best looking women in their early 20s are going to the very nightclubs, venues, and places where they are bound to run into a lot of older men rather than just staying in places where they will find men their own age.

Now I am not saying that these women are proactively seeking older guys or guys much older than them. I do, however, find it odd that they will go to the very venues and places where older men are likely to congregate.

This is the US of all places.
 

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I haven't seen this as much as you have seen it.

This seems like a milder version of Seeking Arrangement in real life.

Older men are only creepy to women if they aren't good looking and/or wealthy. If you are an older man who is at least one of those two, your approaches on these attractive and higher status women will be decently received. There's no guarantee of getting same night sex or a date out of these interactions, but you'll avoid being harshly rejected.
 

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My former co-worker has been on one of those sugar baby websites and i am surprised at the nature and quality of the women on there.

I am not surprised at all that some women are seeking this out in a more organic fashion by hanging out at places where they can find older men
 

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These girls are smart they realise guys their own age can't offer them much other than sex and most guys in their early 20's can't even do that well

When I was in my early 20's I was a fvcking idiot with women , looking back I fumbled so many ridiculously hot girls from either being over eager or saying something stupid

Most young guys are like this and the really attractive girls get bored of it fast

They are looking for more of a challenge and also a better class of lifestyle two dynamics usually only an older man can provide

Women don't primarily value men on looks , its more what you can do for them financially , emotionally , psychologically etc
 

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It’s not about wealthy woman per se, but more about woman who aren’t healthy in their mind.

They can be poor or wealthy. Their status don’t define it.

These kind of girls suffer from some kind of mental disorder and aren’t right in their head psychologically, it has nothing to do with whatever your guys here are coming with. Woman like this take every D from ugly guys to old ass creepy guys

So don’t try to come up with ridiculous threads like this, we have more then enough of it
^^ How the h3ll did this forum go to sh1t overnight? Someone tell me.

Ridiculous? How about you actually step outside of your room for once this week once you are done watching cartoon porn and then come talk to us. Until then, you know nothing about life, women, dating, and sex. The only thing ridiculous here is you commenting when real men are talking. Go make up theories about how the distances between your eyes determine your dating success and let those of us who stepped out of our homes in the past 48 hours have an opinion.

Jeez, morons like this ignorant phuck are taking this forum down the toilet.

Yeah sure women like that take D from "ugly guys to old ass creepy guys", somehow you still didn't make the cut.
 

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These girls are smart they realise guys their own age can't offer them much other than sex and most guys in their early 20's can't even do that well

When I was in my early 20's I was a fvcking idiot with women , looking back I fumbled so many ridiculously hot girls from either being over eager or saying something stupid

Most young guys are like this and the really attractive girls get bored of it fast

They are looking for more of a challenge and also a better class of lifestyle two dynamics usually only an older man can provide

Women don't primarily value men on looks , its more what you can do for them financially , emotionally , psychologically etc
I keep hearing back and forth versions of this. However, I often hear that the best looking women in their early 20s go for guys in their early 20s. I am not saying that is true or false. I am saying that it seems like despite all that, they are proactively going to places where there are likely to be older men. I just never got it.

Why not just stay at the college bars?

Why not just stay at college oriented venues?

Why go to places where the older men are?
 

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Because these women want a "Tupac with a degree" or an anomaly male and think they are too cool to hangout/bougie to hang out in the spots with the commoners. They hangout at these places hoping Mr. Anomaly shows up and sweeps them off their feet or something close enough does. They don't want an older guy, they want a guy their age with the money & wisdom of an older guy, energy and suave of a high school drug dealer or younger 20s hipster, and beta submissiveness of a middle-aged husband. Spoiler alert, they aren't going to find him and end up 40 years old with a bunch of dogs in a crappy 2–3-bedroom 1 bathroom house. They are going to butt their heads with every close enough hybrid until they give up and settle for some Rich Blue-Collar Bubba named Rudy in their 40s. I know this forum gets emotionally triggered by TV shows, but Stacy from Love is Blind is a prime example of this and I am glad Izzy called her @$$ out on it after that failed wedding lol. These women think they are exceptional because they are spoiled rotten to the core from daddy and society and are just Petty Bourgeoisie Street Rats pretty much.

This is literally my friend, she pays 3k in rent to live in a penthouse despite making 60k, only goes to rooftop bars/lounges, only flies first class, exclusively dates anomalies or older rich men with the cringy young bro energy and Viagra flush, and dresses like she is going to party with the Great Gatsby lol.

This is not every woman, I have dated a fair amount of cleat/status chasers in the past so it kind of hit a trigger point lol.
 
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young guys are retards now
Yup the average Gen-Z social skills are shyt and awkward not saying all but from what I've heard. Dating younger gyals every now and then

These girls are smart they realise guys their own age can't offer them much other than sex and most guys in their early 20's can't even do that well

When I was in my early 20's I was a fvcking idiot with women , looking back I fumbled so many ridiculously hot girls from either being over eager or saying something stupid

Most young guys are like this and the really attractive girls get bored of it fast

They are looking for more of a challenge and also a better class of lifestyle two dynamics usually only an older man can provide

Women don't primarily value men on looks , its more what you can do for them financially , emotionally , psychologically etc
Totally agree I would also add that, we live in an era now where status and superficiality is at an all-time high. A 19 year old working at Papa johns is not gonna be able to take that pretty girl to a 5 star restaurant. The 40 year old making 6 figures can easily foot the bill

People thought i was trolling when I kept mentioning "The Country Club" When you deal with upperclass chicks there are certain places to meet them out at whether it be bars, restaurants, clubs, gala events, exclusive house parties, heck even grocery stores that the average man doesnt have access to unless he has connections.

Happy hunting!
 

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ALL women are attracted to Alpha Males and leaders.

Love and attraction is not the same as friendships or being classmates watching the same movies or being the same age.

If you could play soccer with ronaldo-messi and learn from them or play with some crappy sunday league team regardless of your level who would you play with.

Surely there is no confusion as to why women would rather meet experienced sophisticated relevant men rather than younger, immature, unsophisicated irrelevant guys.

Deep down everything is about learning and knowledge, women want to learn and hence are attacted to whoever they think has the most knowledge of life and the world.
 

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Dunno why you guys have stupid discussions around this and just not take it as a given

Till like 2-3 generations ago it was perfectly normal for a guy in his 30s ( to have his own house ) to marry a 18 years old girl

Women always digged older guys, and makes sense too. A guy in his 30s ( if he takes decent care of himself ) has better skin than a woman in her 30s ( that puts a lot of effort into her skin )

A guy in his 30s still has a youthful look, almost as youthful as women in their early 20s
 

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Women always digged older guys, and makes sense too. A guy in his 30s ( if he takes decent care of himself ) has better skin than a woman in her 30s ( that puts a lot of effort into her skin )
A guy in his 30s is still young and can look like a twenty year old if proper self care and genetics are arranged. Where I disagree is this notion that young women are dreaming about late 30s and older bald headed, salt and pepper bearded ,viagra flushed Brad. It is also extremely biased because if you struggled in HS and in your twenties and started dating later in life, no shvt you are going to assume women prefer older men.
 

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A guy in his 30s is still young and can look like a twenty year old if proper self care and genetics are arranged. Where I disagree is this notion that young women are dreaming about late 30s and older bald headed, salt and pepper bearded ,viagra flushed Brad. It is also extremely biased because if you struggled in HS and in your twenties and started dating later in life, no shvt you are going to assume women prefer older men.
If you look like sh1t in your 20s too guess what, girls will still not date you :)

Most guys in the late 20s look like their are in their 40s
 

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so why would they magically date the same guy in his 40s?
I was saying that if you are in your 40s and take good care of yourself girls in their 20s will still like you

Plus high end places are not for losers. They are high end for a reason :)

If not, then you can try your skills on the fatties or 35+ women

 
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Im not Rambo so dont associate me with this King of Beta Males. He is living a delusion, whereas im living in the reallity. Im merely speaking the truth.

I make 300k the year, have my own company, higher iq then probably most of you guys here and even proofed it, I have a girl who worships me and we have a great healthy relationship together you guys ever wish to have but cant. Im educated in various topics, you guys wont ever have the chance to understand or learn, Im a role model for many employees in my company. Im working with many great Leaders, Im not a social dud like most of you guys. I have good looks, I also have a top physique. When in fact Rambo was at least right with all the guys here, even if I cant stand this guy, he has chosen to speak facts about most of the guys here

So you guys don’t have to waste your time and reply to my posts. Im fully confident in whatever I say, so whatever you say goes to deaf ears.
Pics of $300k/year paystub? Pics of physique? Pics of you and your beautiful girl with faces censored?

All of what you said puts you in the top .0000001% of men out there, can't imagine someone as awesome as you say you are would need to post on a dating forum?

Surely your superior IQ would've alerted you to this perceived lack of congruence?
 

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I was saying that if you are in your 40s and take good care of yourself girls in their 20s will still like you

Plus high end places are not for losers. They are high end for a reason :)

If not, then you can try your skills on the fatties or 35+ women
I am never saying never lol, but you are basically a sugar daddy at that point :D
 

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I am never saying never lol, but you are basically a sugar daddy at that point :D
You are a sugar daddy no matter what ;)

Most women are terrible at finances no matter how much money they make, so you either stay single and look for the unicorn or you accept things for what they are

And now you gonna come up with some bullsh1t about your gf, but I am gonna ask you one thing: why would a guy with a perfect relationship and with a hottie would spend so much time in a place like this mainly arguing non sense subjects?
 

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