AMOG Strategy, harlequin-jitsu

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Jrock's 'I almost got killed because I had game' post over on MM Forum in FR is something of a disturbance to me.

Guys like that, they're going to end up killing someone, even if it's themselves. I don't know about you but I don't like violence toward anyone.

Many Amogs & WBAFCs, no matter their size, they're still just a screwed up adolescent kid on the inside with a great deal to learn about how to be a decent human being.

I've gone up to the primo alpha of a set of guys that were hunting me down, I've said something to him, he's laughed like a hyena, told me I'm alright & then insisted I roll with him & his 'crew' & been to what seemed like every VIP room in the city.

If you're going to be a PUA you have to handle yourself, your social tools & any Peacocking you might do can create extremely jealous AFCs, some of whom are not your average guys... they could be drug dealers, former convicts & when I visit certain areas, I run into a lot of soldiers & they're usually at war with themselves & at the very least, any guy they don't like the look of.

If you're going to be working in one area or one city for a while, I advise you to make a connection with doormen, Dj's club owners, get familiar & handshake happy with anyone that looks like they could be your rival or **** block on any other day. Find powerful people, find their passions, usually more power, & let them talk about themselves to you for ten minutes, then tell them who you are, about your company or your club/bar/ambitions/car, anything that they will respect & then they like you & even if you **** up & they don't like you, they WILL respect you & that's enough.

I used to work in security, close protection & other things so I'm lucky in that I know a great deal of doormen & others like me. 7 years ago I was in a pizza shop after the clubs kicked out, I was with a girl that I'd effectively time-bridged there, an arrangement I'd made from within a club called on Boar Lane Leeds called NATO. A Squaddie & his three giant friends sat down at the table next to us & very quickly took a disliking to me, I was in a suit & doing well with the girl. The main alpha, a drunk & dangerous Royal Marine started running his mouth... The girl suggested we leave & I was about to agree with her when I saw four doormen from NATO entering & ordering their food. I knew three of them on first name terms, one of them, Maurice was in particular not the sort of bouncer you'd want to get on the wrong side of.

When he came over to me & said hi to me the big sod that had it in for me shut his hole & as my friend told the girl I was with was in 'good hands' I quipped, "She hasn't had my hands yet Maurice but I'm glad you know of my reputation." The doormen went to sit at the table in front of us & I looked over at the Squaddies, I asked them where they all worked out since they were all huge. "Army gym" said one of them.
h "Really, a Commando are you?"
"That's right, Royal Marines..." (they told me their regiment out of York though I forget it now)
h "Yeah, so you're on leave?"
"Aye... & you should be too."
h "Maybe not, here..." & I gave him my card & asked them:
"If you boys wanna earn some extra crust sometime give me a call, I always have work for guys like you." Now I never met a man that wasn't interested in earning money, especially on the side & even when a guy's thinking about smashing your face in he'll do it twice as fast if he's been paid to do it.

The Marines' attitude changed immediately. Their first question was:
"What the ****'s this about" I gave my answer as I stood up to leave & helped the girl put her jacket round her shoulders. Their next question was:
"When's a good time to call."

Do you think that could have worked only work for me? If a guy made up a story about his history, but still had the cards made that backed it up... if the doormen hadn't entered like they did here, do you not think that any person could have won the favour of the drunk soldiers?

It is not in human nature to be violent, violence is something that animals resort to when we are in fear. It is human nature to be good to yourself & others. It takes less energy being a good person than it does to be a marauding destroyer. I'm no different to you. You can be far beyond where I am. I train with riot police at the House of the Divine Warrior, Bujinkan Kokoro Dojo www.bujinkan.co.uk & in Aikido I'm senior grade & have trained with the Japanese Senshusei. I used to do Submission fighting & train with people like Les Allen who you could search on Google or on www.sfuk.net

Dealing with Alphas is what I'm best at.

If any PUA wants a better way to deal with Amogs or if they just want to perfect their game with their inner strength, all you need to do is study. Pick an art form, whatever works for you; it can be Yoga, Tai Chi Chuan, Wrestling, Submission Fighting, Karate, Boxing & so on. Get some cardio done, swim 60 lengths of a pool, but whatever you do... don't limit yourselves.

It is not human nature to limit ourselves; we are designed to be, unlimited.

Anyone in that reads this if they would like a month free at Kokoro Dojo or would like information on our affiliates in the USA then PM me, we're linked up with Bujinkan in Atlanta. It's more than combat Jiu Jitsu as anyone that clicks the link will see. Bujinkan is for sure the art of fighting without fighting. It gives me a power behind my eyes. As Syren will testify, no Amogs want to be violent. In fact they're usually great guys in other situations.

Like in Fight Club, Tyler Durden's Homework asssignment, Start A Fight & Lose... it's not easy. People don't WANT to fight. With Bujinkan & the other stuff I've done people can pick up from me a protecting vibe. I can pacify any angry Amog because I know how they work... I used to be one. My introduction here is long-winded but you'll see why I am the way I am from it. I don't want to hear of ANY PUAs or people having **** like what Jrock went through, though he dealt with it very well & had the strength to retreat. Look at martial arts & Bujinkan. Part of the Creed of Ninjitsu is that 'Everyone feels safer with me around."

My game would SUCK without my inner confidence & spirit.

Perfect yourselves...

Peace.
 
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Hunterchilla

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interesting post.

For me people who think they are tough, or act like they are tough give off a tough guy vibe, and it attracts attention from other tough guys, this is why they get into fights.

I never been, and im pretty sure none of my friends have ever been in any of these situations before where randomely your worried about some guy going to fight you or beat you up. Especially when it comes to a situation like: you like the other guys girl or he likes your girl. For us its just instinctual just to ignore the situation and not waste time.

Probably hanging around an army base is much different though but still if you dont look for trouble it probably wont come to you. In my oppinion there is really no need to LEARN some martial art to defend your self from this.

If someone really deos WANT TO HURT YOU For something so minor, and petty, they are either nuts, or they REALLY DO want to hurt you and they will probably use a knife/gun/bottle/chair.

So basically what im trying to say is, IF YOU really have troube backing down from fights, or like to fight, or like to prove that your a tough guy, then pick up a martial art.

THERE IS NO WAY to LEARN HOW TO AVOID a FIGHT, and I think that trying to befriend someone who is trying to fight you can EVEN be more dangerous. So just ignore it, and try to get out of there. that is the best thing you can do.
 

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Sure, of course there's no need to learn a martial art. But the one thing I've noticed is that since I got into martial arts, not only did my confidence soar, my alpha grew humbly dominant & my Venusian arts are getting better all the time.

You say there's no way to learn to avoid a fight? How limited your view is of the human experience. There are some great ways to avoid a fight. Humour, Out-Alphaing, Out-Psyching... taking a course in Geoff Thompson's fight psychology (great for doormen & close protection.) Don't limit yourself. There's something to learn about everything.

I just know that some Don Juans & PUAs have a problem with Amogs & I'm here to say that you don't have to suffer them.

Being alpha is one of the key traits to attracting women.

Women look for replication & seek an Alpha with survival skills to replicate with.

You can do a ton of things, boxing, cardio, cycling, anything but do something to keep your body in shape & be alpha.

Be the prize.
 

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harlequin,

I can kinda relate to what you are saying.

The other night, I was at a bar, got chatting to a woman, got her interested, walked away.

Later in the evening, she was getting hit on by a group of 4 guys. Absolute human trash. I mean the guy was unable to compile full sentences.

So I walked past with my friends, she saw me, got up and walked up to me to say "Hello again!"

The AFCs who were talking to her got quite uncomfortable about that. So he walked over, trying to AMOG me by saying:

AFC: "oi, mate, are you and your mate a couple?"
me: "excuse me?"
AFC: "you know, like a homo, are you two gay? because you look it"
my friend: (smiling) "why? you jelous?"

now, i thought that was funny, everyone laughed, but the guy wasnt impressed. he had that look in his face that said "thats it! i'm gonna be waiting for you outside!"

So I thought, f*ck it! i'll swallow my pride and defuse the situation.

me: "hey man! i just noticed! cool top! they are in fashion now, arent they?"
AFC: "yeh mate! this is the bollocks!"
me: "anyway, looks good on you man! we're gonna hit the dancefloor, catch you later on mate"

I guess I felt better after the girl came up to me again, and I asked her to come to my friend's place with us. She agreed, but there was major LMR from her friend, so we left it.
 

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To Harlequin and Fash, you guys both diffused the situation the same way... you ignored the negative comments, and focused on their strengths. You could have insulted their AMOG, and had a few friends waiting around the corner with lead pipes waiting for you, glad to see you didn't. I've seen drunks break out right there on the dance floor, and just straight pick up chairs and hurl them into the crowd, glad none of them ever played darts though, those chairs arre hard to stop when they start spinning faster, so stopping the situation right there and than I agree, with harlequin is out-alphaing them, it is also supplicating though.

Both of you agreed they had something to offer you, their muscle(for harlequin) or fashion(for Fash), lol funny thing is, girls want that too, AND Fash diffused a gay comment by telling the guy he had a nice shirt.

:crackup:
 

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Originally posted by spider_007
i think they call it "social engeneering"
Well thats what some call it, I think it's more along the lines of social networking. They also call the ethnomethodology, "social engineering", but it is only the study of "social interactions".
 

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my theory is that if someone likes you...
they will be less likely to fuss with you.
I once had this encounter not too long ago, no-this is not
a romanic encounter!
I was having a horrid night, so i decided to go out and
clear my mind.These nights, i drink alot-get pretty hammered
hypnotized by the pulsating bass beats-i am in not even there
after a few double shots of JD and coke.
Anyways, i am standing by the bar and then i see an open
seat..i sit down. i notice a girl right in front of me to the left,
there was a table between us. I didn't really notice her,
whatever..i sip my drink and i kinda just zone out some more...

next thing you know i see this big black mofo hovering over me,
wasn't too intimidating- but it was clear he had something on
his mind..i was all like..okay...what?
he leans up to me and says-
'why you soo hard man?'
i was like..
'because lifes been hard on me..'
he just smirks
'yo, man i was gonna hit you in the head with bottle when
i first met you, you didn't have to be rude to me like that'..
he rambeled on-
i leaned forward and said
'go ahead'...
with a big ol' grin on my face, no twitchy smiles , no fear
he obviously confused me with someone else..
'no i said i was gonna..'
he continued
'i apologize if i offended you in anyway...'
god, i was soo hammered- but i never seen this fvcker
in my life, i was drunk off my ass and the last thing i need
is to get into a fight with some g-unit mother fvcker and his
yo yo yo homies backing him up..

god , he then kept egging me on with attepts to start some
more $hit with me..and with everyone of them,
i just smiled , laughed and kinda smacked him on the back
like it was some big joke.

Next thing you know , we're lauging, joking around,
he's talking about his boys in Hawaii and the south and
all these hook ups he has- his girlfriend even comes over and
asks me who i am and engage me in further conversation...

i have no idea what the hell was going on!
we all wounde up joking, talking and just hanging out...
i later walked off up to get another drink and that was that...

i could've let him get to me, he was clearly looking for a
reaction like i was scared of him- but i wasn't.
He was obviously trying to get me pissed off or emotional...
it's like he was trying to 'test' me in a way to see if he
could 'punk' me.
I just stood my ground and ...smiled... a real grining
all teeth showing smile...straight gleaming..

if i am ever in a place i don't know and i see some guys
that i may think could be a possible threat, or it's obvious
that they 'own' the place.I usually greet with a knod of
reconition or a simple 'whats up fellas', kinda like-
no problem here.And then just go about my buisness,
they usually aren't messing with anyone and doing their
own thing anyways. Most would be cool if you are,just
subtle ways of communicating that 'it's all good'...
'i gots no beef wif ya's'...
thats what i do anyways, i find that it's usually guys that
try to 'act hard' in front of them that get into trouble...
 

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Whats your background harlequin - Regiment?
 

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Originally posted by harlequin
How limited your view is of the human experience.

I was reading this thread up to this point.

For someone who professes he knows how to avoid fights, you sure know how to insult people in holier-than-thou ways.

Everyone else, I recommend reading Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends & Influence People."
 

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Originally posted by Mr. Delicious
I just have one question...What the hell is a Squaddie??? :confused:
It's a Brit term. I believe the American equivalents are grunt (Army) and jarhead (USMC.)

Although if these guys were Royal Marines then I would tend to call them Marines as my mate used to be one. The regular army are usually called squaddies.
 
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