Americans need to travel more

STR8UP

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I just got back from a couple of weeks in Europe, and I feel like a new man!

When I was overseas I enjoyed meeting different people from various parts of the world. Although I am not a particularly sociable person, even back home I now feel like socializing more often.

I came back with a renewed sense of confidence. It's an amazing feeling knowing that I have seen and experienced what many of my fellow Americans will never be able to enjoy.

In the US it seems we go out of our way to avoid social interaction, whereas in Europe socialization seems to be a way of life. Does anyone over there own a t.v.? If so you wouldn't know it for all the outdoor activity.

Although I thoughouly enjoyed experiencing new cultures and a new way of life (if even for such a brief time), being there also makes me appreciate some of the things I take for granted in the US.

What's up with having to pay 2 Euros or more for a teenie, tiny little bottle of water? I overheard an American in Amsterdam asking for tap water and he was promtly told that they didn't "sell" tap water. It's hard to justify spending more on water than I spend on my entire meal here in the states (but several times I did!). I could have been dying of dehydration and I doubt if anyone would have cared....

And the service.....what's up with the service? Overall everyone was friendly enough, no complaints there. But having to flag down a server EVERY time you want something and then having to wait forever to get it was pretty annoying. It seemed like most of the servers (with the exception of servers in Prague) kept very busy and simply didn't have enough help. I suppose that 2 Euro bottle of water would be more like 3 Euros if they hired enough servers, so I better not complain!

Lastly, why are most of the hotel rooms (the ones I stayed in anyways) like bottled water- too small and very expensive? I thought my room in Berlin was tiny...but when I could practically brush my teeth and shower while sitting on the toilet in my room in Munich, I realized the meaning of the word small.

So here I sit in my comfy chair watching my big screen t.v. drinking from my MONSTER size bottle of water wondering when I will be able to make it back to the land of uncomfortable hotel beds and two hour long lunches.

Americans need to travel more....
 

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What's up with having to pay 2 Euros or more for a teenie, tiny little bottle of water? I overheard an American in Amsterdam asking for tap water and he was promtly told that they didn't "sell" tap water. It's hard to justify spending more on water than I spend on my entire meal here in the states (but several times I did!). I could have been dying of dehydration and I doubt if anyone would have cared....
I dont know man, I think you shouldve stayed away from the touristy areas, Im from germany and in supermarkets we pay around 40 cents for 2l water, I live in Rome now and the 2l bottle of water next to my computer cost 31 cents.
 

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I agree... the first time I went to Europe solo I made the same mistake as you and spent most of my money on food and drinks at restaurants... the next 3 times in Amsterdam I wised up and shopped at the chain of grocery stores called "Albert Heijn". They have 2 liter bottles of water for .95, not to mention very reasonable prices for pre-made lunches, sandwiches, etc. When you're travelling it pays to do it smartly. Bear in mind these prices are in the touristy section of Amsterdam - if you go to the outdoors markets that locals shop at you can get the same stuff for about half that. Prices in places like Belgium, France, Germany, etc were semi-reasonable depending on where you did your shopping.

The reason your hotel rooms were small is because you were most likely staying at 1 star hotels. When you spend more, you get more. However, you could also have stayed at youth hostels... for about 10-20 euros a night you'd get a large community bathroom(s), dorm style bedding, and most importantly a place to crash with other people who are touring the continent.

If you want a cheap vacation (though not cheap airfare), try vacationing in Egypt...
 

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I agree. The rest of the world is a much different than the states. More times than not, they have a better understanding of 'purpose' than do we. Definitely worthwhile. :up:
 

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diablo, have you been to egypt also?

and to all of you who have traveled, do you have any pictures that you could post in this link so that the rest of us who havent traveled and are wanting to could see them?? please....
 

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St. Lucia

http://www.ansechastanet.com/default2.html

This is one of my favorite places on Earth. With amazing snorkelling, the beach is actually public, if you can handle the bad road or have a boat. The hotel bar is the giant tiki hut. They make the best rum punch I've had, using fresh fruit and local spices. I only wish I had the almost $1,000/night to blow on one of their rooms.

Ladera is only slightly less expensive: http://www.ladera.com/index.asp?section=home&content=home
They have the best tropical scenery.

For accomodations that are more like $100/night, my ex-in-laws own this place:
http://www.harmonysuites.com/OurHotel.htm
Harmony is at the other end of the island on Rodney Bay.
 

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Originally posted by penkitten
diablo, have you been to egypt also?
Egypt 3x, Israel, Amsterdam 3x (actual trips) and 2x (extended layovers), Germany, Belgium, France, England 2x, US Virgin Islands, British Virgin Islands, Canada. I may have left something out but without looking at my passport thats all that comes to mind.
do you have any pictures that you could post in this link
Here's some I already had up...

http://www.jbspencer.com/trip05

http://www.jbspencer.com/egypt05
 

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i just finished reading a book about 3 aussie guys who toured europe/asia in a hearse (funeral car).. was a great read. i'm very keen to travel, especially around europe.

i think reading is a great tool for increasing your desire to travel. reading the da vinci code made me desperate to see paris. and i will do it asap.

-but on the water prices, it seems about right in comparison with australia.

we pay about $2 for a 600ml bottle of refrigerated water if you buy it at a petrol station/milk bar (think quik-e-mart - simpsons). its even more expensive at a sporting event or cinemas etc. but of course at a supermarket you could buy 2 litres (not refrigerated) for an aweful lot less.
 

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Re: St. Lucia

Originally posted by Bible_Belt
I only wish I had the almost $1,000/night to blow on one of their rooms...Ladera is only slightly less expensive
Here's a great spot to sleep - within a stones throw from the Caribbean. You may not have nubian princesses squeezing mangos into a glass for you, but you can't beat the price:

http://www.outdoorreview.com/Channels/OutdoorReview/images/products/product_77717.jpg

(A tent... North Face Peregrine to be precise). Why pay $1,000 a night to sleep when you can get a tent and sleep just about anywhere you want to free?
 

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Ahhh, An tAontas Eorpach. The land of me grandparents. When I was back in the motherland (Oireland), whenever I was at a restaraunt or pub, I had to beg the waiter for water. It was so bad, I had to get on my knees and cry "Oh please, I'll do anything", and it never had ice in it.

Otherwise I had a jolly good nice time. I love the craic. I would nearly do anything to see those Claremen in Bunratty in Durty Nelly's -- the oldest pub in ireland -- teasing and making fun of that lady from London while making her do degrading **** while she and everyone else was lovin' it. They also made fun of a Dub... there was a guy there and these Claremen came up to him and asked, what are ya? A Limerickman, a Kerryman, a Corker, what? And he didn't want to reveal that he was a Dub (since many people dislike people from Dublin), so he said, "well, I'll answer ye... I'm an IRISHMAN!" and they started goin' off "haha, you're from Dublin haha".
 

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I had the fortune to go to Spain for spring break junior year of high school. I loved every minute of it.

I'm thinking of taking a trip to Northern Iraq this summer and studying the languages there. I really need a break from the States for a bit, to get lost in another culture and learn new things about the world I live in.
 

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I was in Germany for 3 weeks and absolutely loved it. I especially loved the no drinking age and oktoberfest. I definately recommend for anyone to go to Germany. Its a great place.


But about the drink thing... They are pretty stingy with all drinks in Europe. All the glasses have the measurement line on them. I guess its some sort of law where they have to give you a certain amount.
 

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Just remember one thing when they make fun of Americans for not having seen the world...

Our vacation policies in the States suck. That's why I haven't been to Europe yet. It's true. Those of us that work their ass off are lucky to get 1 week of our 2 weeks off at a time.

It really sucks to beg for your measly vacation time but that's the way it is most places nowadays.
 

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Originally posted by Ricky
Just remember one thing when they make fun of Americans for not having seen the world...

Our vacation policies in the States suck.
All the more reason to build a source of passive income! Then you can travel till your heart is content.....
 

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Originally posted by STR8UP
What's up with having to pay 2 Euros or more for a teenie, tiny little bottle of water? I overheard an American in Amsterdam asking for tap water and he was promtly told that they didn't "sell" tap water. It's hard to justify spending more on water than I spend on my entire meal here in the states (but several times I did!). I could have been dying of dehydration and I doubt if anyone would have cared....
you also have to pay to use the toilets in France.

Originally posted by diablo

The reason your hotel rooms were small is because you were most likely staying at 1 star hotels. When you spend more, you get more. However, you could also have stayed at youth hostels... for about 10-20 euros a night you'd get a large community bathroom(s), dorm style bedding, and most importantly a place to crash with other people who are touring the continent.
actually, in a lot of places in Germany and France the nicer hotels have barely enough room for one or two beds and a bathroom. it isn't always a reflection on how many stars the hotel has.
 

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