American women are actually pretty cool, the Manosphere was lying.

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Are women overseas perfect? Hell no. Do you need 0 game overseas? Hell no. Can you be a awkward lame and get play? Maybe from ugly girls or the undesirables. Is it better than American women on average? Hell yes.

Anyone that disagrees, lets see your passport with stamps, your visa and lets see you actually living in other countries overseas. Not visiting. Not just getting turnt up and drunk for a week or two in Spain or Thailand. Living. Speaking the language, etc. And getting with women or quality/attractive girls.
Unless you have worldly experience you really don't know how crappy women of the dating sphere are in the USA are right now. If I was in a different situation in life right now, I'd be an expat.

I wanted to make this point since this thread got started but felt it would fall on deaf ears.
 

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I'm in Miami right now and completely disagree.
I was in Europe all last year. Im a 'digital nomad'.
European girls turn on a completely different vibe as soon as they touch down here.
Saw it in Seattle during my approaches, saw it in NYC, see it here in Miami.

They adopt and tend to act like American girls. Although if they havent been here for long it isn't too bad.
Even when I met or went out with girls who had been to America, in Europe. Their vibe was more bitchy or they were not as down to earth.

Just ran into some German & South American women last night. Was joking with a friend about cities in US and Europe and the girls were getting smart correcting us and **** on how all cities are xyz... I rarely run into that level of catiness out there. Yeah girls can try you, play hard to get or give you Slavic vibes. But its night and day. If they were in Germany or Argentina they wouldnt mouth off like that. But here the simp ass low self esteem men let em get away with it. Thats another topic. The men are night and day different and keep their women in check in certain countries overseas. Jesse you complain and talk about soyboy men all the time you should know this. You think in shape more attractive chill women from Latin America or Eastern Europe just are like that just cause? No. The men keep them in check.

Miami is better because competition is so fierce here and the Latinas are more humble. But nah bro cant agree with you.

Also, you dont need to be jacked and have a damn near Athletic build to get a good looking or decent looking girl. Here even in Miami and especially most the US you see jacked guys walking around with HB6s or even HB5. Or even fat girls.

The fact you gotta money and looksmax just to get average proves the point. And Ive read your field report logs. Love em bro theyre inspiring. But women are way more down to earth overseas as a whole. Girls giving you fake IGs and ****. Too much. This place is a great base until I get back overseas to Asia/Europe though.

Edit: And guys keep talking about how bitchy Eastern European are, or how hypergamous Asian women are etc etc. Again, you guys are meeting them here in the USA. Its the same stuff when I meet white guys in SE Asia, most are weirdos or old dudes cause thats what SE Asia attracts formost white dudes. Or if you meet a Asian or African living in Scotland. 90% chance they will be some whitewashed self hating type. Why? Cause thats what itll attract and the type of people that go there.

Women from Poland, Philippines or Argentina who want to come to America in the first place shows their mentality difference. And I too keep it 100 most girls big and deep into American culture you meet overseas are damaged or undesirable by most their men. So most girls who come to the states are on hot girl summer mode or thots anyways.

Are women overseas perfect? Hell no. Do you need 0 game overseas? Hell no. Can you be a awkward lame and get play? Maybe from ugly girls or the undesirables. Is it better than American women on average? Hell yes.

Anyone that disagrees, lets see your passport with stamps, your visa and lets see you actually living in other countries overseas. Not visiting. Not just getting turnt up and drunk for a week or two in Spain or Thailand. Living. Speaking the language, etc. And getting with women or quality/attractive girls.

Most guys who argue against this simply hasnt lived long term overseas. Its clear as day. Although I will meet in the middle and say most Gen Z girls are bitchy everywhere if they are hot. But are still better acting and behave better than a Gen Z girl in the states. The supply/demand scarcity alone proves this.

You dont need to have six pack abs(which Jesse has mentioned here about Miami, and this a top tier usa city) and be making 6 figs to walk around with a hot woman in Rio, Porto, Barcelona or Manila. Period.- Nothing to argue you can look up walking videos on YT and see it.
That was kind of my point although I will dig into this a bit more. My point was that these same women a lot of dudes are hyping up are nice in their home country but bring them to a city like Miami and it all changes. Yeah, meet a Polish girl in Poland and you can marry her. Meet her in Miami? HA!

However, I do have a theory. I think that American and western women, or women from seriously rich places like Scandinavia, value more of the mental than the material. They are not that likely to be "gold diggers" because they know they can have wealth in the snap of a finger. Meanwhile, women from poor countries are money hungry because to them, money is new. A good example are Romanian women and women from the Balkans, a culture that worships flashiness and clout like crazy. Met so many Romanian women desperate to be involved in nightlife back in my days in NYC. I am sure if I met her in Romania, different story, but my god the ones in the US are awful.

And amen to Western European women, the French send their absolute worst to Miami.

I cannot stand the French here in Miami and all of the Francophilia I had has gone away. French women in Miami are just awful and they are spoiled too, the Au Pairs are the worst. These women are so spoiled by someone for sure man. I mean they live in Panaroma Tower where the rent is abnormally high and somehow work entry level Ad jobs. Always nosing in at the best spots in Brickell and you can tell a lot about them from that.

Runners up and almost competing for first place are the Brits. I mean my god, their prudishness and condescending behaviors get worse when they move to Miami. They seem to ruin the vibe here like crazy. I am running into a lot of the trashy ones too, like all tattoos and ghetto culture worshiping white girl types.

TBH, the worst demographics I have found in Miami have been the following:

1. Russian women, hands down. Money hungry, slimey, and just all gold diggers. I do not even bother to approach them.

2. Colombian women. Seedy, sketchy, and always out to con you. I have not had this experience with other women but have had it with Colombian women.

3. Western European women, hands down the worst are the French but the Brits are not far behind. The Germans and Scandis can be decent but Miami is not attracting the best from them either.

I have found Western Euro women in Miami to be heavily clout chasing and obsessed with social media on a level you can never expect from an American girl. Like I feel for Western Euro dudes, your women are truly worse than American women are. I used to like the idea of getting with a French, German, Belgian, or whatever chick but after tons of interactions, I just immediately go into Auto-Reject mode when I hear a girl is from that part of the world.
 

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But hell yeah I agree, I met plenty cool American women. I just had to work my god damn ass off (100+ approaches on the west coast in one season) to meet them in comparison to overseas. Proof you have to work your goddamn ass for solid/good women? See Jesses own field report log. And hes probably a top 20 if not 10% guy game wise. In one of the best cities you can get here in the Americas. So let that sink in.

Dont gotta do all that overseas. Still gotta work, but damn bro youd slay and have a much much easier time anywhere outside here. Facts.

Last note: Ive had many women overseas who had been here tell me straight up they like to vacation or want to live here because the men are 'better'. Translation: the bar is lower and we have many more options and the men there put up with our BS. Most these girls being rejects in their respective countries. (and by reject I mean mentally or physically, so just cause shes hot doesnt mean she isnt a reject)

Cant get a Brazilian, Russian, Korean or Swedish guy of value? Come to USA where the low self esteem thirsty dudes who have to lift to get chubby girls will be more than happy to sponsor you! Cause back in Moldova youll be held to a standard by the more masculine men.

Visit the USA today ladies!
Nah, my game is not that great. For the longest time, I relied on apps and drunk nightlife adventures to meet women. There are plenty of dudes on this forum with game sharper than mines.

Next, I would say that the bar in Miami for guys is pretty high. When I compare it to my time in NYC, I feel like I am competing with some top tier dudes. For example, I went out this weekend and there were so many dudes over 6'2 and jacked.

Miami has a ton of attractive women but unlike NYC, the competition here is far more fierce. When I lived in NYC, I practically had to show up to get laid. As soon as I moved to Miami, I had to actually learn day game and actually learn how to do game.

Then again, I do agree that it is not easy at all. One of my friends who is Danish said it is so easy to get laid there. Girls let you know within minutes if they want to sleep with you.
 

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That was kind of my point although I will dig into this a bit more. My point was that these same women a lot of dudes are hyping up are nice in their home country but bring them to a city like Miami and it all changes. Yeah, meet a Polish girl in Poland and you can marry her. Meet her in Miami? HA!
The best experiences with Eastern European, Asian, or Latin American women will occur in those Eastern European, Asian, or Latin American countries.

When a woman from Eastern Europe, Asia, or Latin American makes it to the USA and a bigger city in the USA, things start to go downhill. She loses a lot of the appeal factors she had while in her homeland and starts to take on many of the characteristics of American woman.

A Russian, Thai, or Mexican woman who lived in Russia, Thailand, or Mexico until ages 18-22 might be slightly better than an American woman who has lived in the United States her entire life. In some cases, the difference is negligible.

Kornelija Slunjski (Koko Beaute on social media) grew up in Croatia and has lived in New York City and Miami. Koko Beaute is the best known example of a woman from a more traditional Eastern European nation that comes to the United States and then adopts the worst traits of White, American women.

Western European women are bad in Western Europe and also bad in the United States.
 
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