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The possibility of love and being in love is important to her. Shouldn’t just up and take it away. Not if you at least want her.
The other interesting angle that I may have discussed on here years ago is that betas are enablers of the alphas.Oh, I understand the behavior, and the reasons for it. I'm just saying there are unintended consequences, like creating these "alpha widows" people talk about. It causes trouble for men with lower SMV, although I don't imagine the top guys are concerned any about "lesser men".
If you just look at this forum, most guys who come here are probably "beta" when they arrive, and as soon as they learn a thing or two, they are holding all average men in utter contempt and disdain. They blame the AFC for all problems with women's entitlement, but it's really the actions of all men that contribute, not just the AFCs. Some have said the reason guys hate the betas so much once they get a little red pill education is because they despise their former actions, which makes a lot of sense.
Some of them know your helping and dont care. They wasnt going to help her anyway.The other interesting angle that I may have discussed on here years ago is that betas are enablers of the alphas.
The reason that a chick can remain a “plate” to the alpha for an extended period of time (despite her frustration with his lack of commitment/attention) is that she has nice guy friendzone betas on the side.
She isn’t F-ing the betas, but they do provide the attention and shoulder to cry on (ie emotional support) that her alpha F-boy won’t give her.
So she’s able to tolerate the alpha longer. Without this beta support, her flings with the alphas would be much shorter lived.
TDLR: When you are in the friendzone with a girl, you are helping some tall tattooed guy to continue F-ing her for longer. He should thank you, but he probably won’t lol.
In todays game sometimes helper gets occasional head or a low desire sex session. She gets all boyfriend help from the helper while she feeds the Alpha her extra effort sex and desire.Some of them know your helping and dont care. They wasnt going to help her anyway.
Yeah. The “helper” represents the other missing “half” of the boyfriend that she wants.In todays game sometimes helper gets occasional head or a low desire sex session. She gets all boyfriend help from the helper while she feeds the Alpha her extra effort sex and desire.
Balance is good. And for what it's worth, I don't think you're leading the girls on. She has to convince you that she is worth exclusivity, she can't just assume it going in.I'd like to think of it as balance. Whereas I might humble most women; other guys pump up their ego.
That's not cool. SoSuave does not play second fiddle to the bodybuilding forum!Actually the only reason he's back is because he was banned from the bodybuilding forum.
I never read that before. Sounds like a good theory! Makes a lot of sense, I like it.The other interesting angle that I may have discussed on here years ago is that betas are enablers of the alphas.
Zekko, I’m insulted that you could even think I open women at all or if I did, to use more than a handful of letters to initiate.If you're guilty of anything, it's that you seem to game them pretty hard. And that "you might be trouble" line is horrible. I mean it's a good line, it's just that it's probably been in every PUA book I've ever read
don't play the race card dave. Didn't Armenians cost Germany the war. From what I've heard you guys are punks on the battlefield, maybe women know that, and that's why they don't respondI messaged a decent looking black girl today who was in decent shape
literally the bottom of our social hierarchy- black women. Still no response
To expound on this for those whom many benefit from this discussion: I’m not a Pick-Up Artist (PUA), rather I’m a Picked-Up Artist (PDUA). I focus and try to develop relations where the girls actively pursue me.Zekko said:good line, it's just that it's probably been in every PUA book I've ever read
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
So I’m gathering, pictures aside, the value is demonstrated by the bio narrative?To expound on this for those whom many benefit from this discussion: I’m not a Pick-Up Artist (PUA), rather I’m a Picked-Up Artist (PDUA). I focus and try to develop relations where the girls actively pursue me.
That’s why I have always preached self-improvement. Why? Because when a man has and demonstrates enough value, women will gravitate toward him.
Take for example, Rolls Royce. How often do they advertise? Not very much. But Ford (btw love the stock at a 6% dividend, strong buy) needs to advertise everyday. That’s because the being of a Rolls Royce is the advertisement. Whom between the two would you strive to be as an individual?
In OLD, the concept works identically. Your pictures and profile present the value to bait them. Then and only then can one must demonstrate value through discussion. But the focus is on the product, as without value in the product, there are no prospects to bless with your attention.
However, understanding similarities and differences in every thinking model demonstrates deeper understanding. Here, even if Dave polishes the product via updated pics, he still lacks the value to take the prospect to the date. He needs to focus on more at-bats to hone this social deficiency.
I'd say the bio should buttress your photos' lack. For example, my pics show a strong degree of arrogance and entitlement, which can be a turn off to many girls. So my bio balances that with a narrative of humility that I'm just an ordinary guy, which does not contradict the pics, rather enlarges the "full picture." Very much like here, where I can appear arrogant, but at time, show a degree of humility.So I’m gathering, pictures aside, the value is demonstrated by the bio narrative?
In person it’s a non issue. I do subscribe that women need to be the pursuer and buyer. There is no doubt in my mind about that.
So what does a good bio communicate?
This thread and Dave’s position led to good things. If one wanted to get something from it. I don’t see anything that isn’t transferable to regular interactions. It’s just more exposure.I'd say the bio should buttress your photos' lack. For example, my pics show a strong degree of arrogance and entitlement, which can be a turn off to many girls. So my bio balances that with a narrative of humility that I'm just an ordinary guy, which does not contradict the pics, rather enlarges the "full picture." Very much like here, where I can appear arrogant, but at time, show a degree of humility.
The answer to your question relates to the image you are presenting.
One thing I can tell you in not to forge a written narrative which paints you as grandiose while at the same time showing pics like Dave's--of a lower echelon status. Incongruence destroys rapport.