Am I the only one with this problem?

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The more I am here, or the longer I have been here, the more I just can't relate to most guys. It's not even something I try to do. The more out of the matirx you are, the more society, or guys seem to resent you for it. Or at least myself.or just the way I carry myself pisses people off.
 

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You seem to be a no nonsense type of guy who has no time for BS.

If true, nothing wrong with that in my book.
 

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BB, no offence, but it seems like you have the attitude of "I am right and if you disagree with me you are wrong".
 

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Why shouldn't he have the audacity to declare himself right and another wrong?

Is it because you believe that everything is relative, that all men are equal, and that there is no such thing as objective truth?

BB is right because he is an honest man, defined as: a man who does not consume more than he produces. In that sentence lies the entirety of human morality. He took responsibility for his own life, he bore the diligence and pain and risk of failure to make his vision a reality, and he lives by means and by virtue of his reward. This does not make him impervious; but it most certainly puts him a cut above the common man.

And that is why you think you rub people the wrong way, BB; you do rub them the wrong way. You are not hideous or disfigured, but many people stare at you as though you were a leper. You feel alienated from others, not from any fault of your own, but rather as a result of your greatness. You remind them of what they are not, and they sneer at you from their ratholes instead of at least possessing enough character to show respect to a man who is worthy of it.

You know why you can't relate to others? Because you don't look for someone to languish in mediocrity with (like they do), but you look for a hint of real intelligence and insight; you rarely find it. Instead of looking for someone to look down on, you look for someone you could look up to. That is the hallmark of greatness. When I talk to others, they regale me with tales of their dependence on women, their lack of purpose and discipline, their stupid and maladjusted priorities...I wish to God I could meet a friend who truly understands and lives by the truth of our existence. I look for genuine ambition, passion for achievement, desire for expansion, willingness to suffer for one's own good, and intelligence.

It's lonely at the top, because few crabs escape the barrel; but the ones on the bottom are surrounded by comrades to commiserate with.
 

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Julius_Seizeher said:
Why shouldn't he have the audacity to declare himself right and another wrong?

Is it because you believe that everything is relative, that all men are equal, and that there is no such thing as objective truth?

BB is right because he is an honest man, defined as: a man who does not consume more than he produces. In that sentence lies the entirety of human morality. He took responsibility for his own life, he bore the diligence and pain and risk of failure to make his vision a reality, and he lives by means and by virtue of his reward. This does not make him impervious; but it most certainly puts him a cut above the common man.

And that is why you think you rub people the wrong way, BB; you do rub them the wrong way. You are not hideous or disfigured, but many people stare at you as though you were a leper. You feel alienated from others, not from any fault of your own, but rather as a result of your greatness. You remind them of what they are not, and they sneer at you from their ratholes instead of at least possessing enough character to show respect to a man who is worthy of it.

You know why you can't relate to others? Because you don't look for someone to languish in mediocrity with (like they do), but you look for a hint of real intelligence and insight; you rarely find it. Instead of looking for someone to look down on, you look for someone you could look up to. That is the hallmark of greatness. When I talk to others, they regale me with tales of their dependence on women, their lack of purpose and discipline, their stupid and maladjusted priorities...I wish to God I could meet a friend who truly understands and lives by the truth of our existence. I look for genuine ambition, passion for achievement, desire for expansion, willingness to suffer for one's own good, and intelligence.

It's lonely at the top, because few crabs escape the barrel; but the ones on the bottom are surrounded by comrades to commiserate with.
Wasn't exactly the way I'd put it but this reply still resonates with what i had in mind.

Things just get to a point where, simply put, 'what the fck,' expresses it best.
 

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People will always resent you. If you're poor, they will resent you for not working hard enough. If you're rich, they will resent you for not giving enough. If you're smart, they'll resent you for being a know-it-all. If you're stupid, they'll resent you for wasting their time. If you're lazy, they'll resent you for not doing anything. If you're industrious, they'll resent you for making them look bad.

I wish to God I could meet a friend who truly understands and lives by the truth of our existence. I look for genuine ambition, passion for achievement, desire for expansion, willingness to suffer for one's own good, and intelligence.
Seizeher...I feel you on this. I feel the same way about a lot of my friends...they're good enough people, but they don't seem to understand my longing for "more" out of life and instead love to claim I should be "happy with what I have" and not worry about it.

I don't claim to have "great ambitions"...it just seems like most people will do things only when the rewards are brought TO them. Mohammed refuses to go to the mountain, though, and when things start taking time or effort, most of the people I know just "punch out".

Perfect example...a couple months ago, some friends of mine and I went on a snowboarding trip. My first time there, so I kind of knew it was gonna be rough trying to learn a new skill. The "vets" went ahead to the black diamonds and left the rest of us to the bunny slopes for a lesson.

I must've fallen on my arse like a hundred times trying to get the balance down...frustration was starting to get the best of us near the end of the lesson because no matter what the instructor tells you, until you start to understand the balance of it by "doing", you're not going to be able to stay standing.

I was the only one who stayed for day 2. All of my other friends returned their rental gear and just said, "F it, we're going to go do something else". I hauled my humbled ass up to the green slopes ALONE and spent the entire day falling on my arse time and time again trying to get the balance down. About halfway through the day, it finally started to "click"...I was learning to work at least the heel-edge of the board, to the point where I could "falling leaf" my way down the slope with only two or three spills tops. I could stop, change direction, and effectively at least keep myself from flying off the mountain or into another skier without crashing.

I can't wait for next winter to try it again. The rest of my friends who "quit"...they could care less. It's something they did just to say they did it, and when it turned out to be harder than they expected, they quit and went home, deciding it wasn't worth their time.

When I came back, a couple of the "quitters" were on their way from the lodge to go snow-tubing...basically a lame setup where a bunch of people too scared to ski can ride tubes down a hill in pre-marked parallel lanes on a slope. They asked me if I was going and I told them no. This is what really "burns" me...one of them had the balls to accuse ME of being "lazy", for not wanting to go do some lame-ass compromise snow-tubing after I was the ONLY ONE who stayed on the hill and bounced my ass off the snow until my spine was numb so I could learn to snowboard.

It's hard to stay ambitious when everyone around you is only "adventurous" when the going is easy.

I really would love to find people who would help motivate me, instead of people I had to motivate myself in spite of. Dealing with my existential crisis, it'd be nice to find some people who still had some lust for life.

Unfortunately, most of the people that I'd like to meet would probably be equally brought-down by the attitude that I've acquired over time, unless we had a significant common interest that brought us together.

I'd love to sit with BB and shoot the sh!t with him sometime...but between horse-racing and web development, I honestly don't know how much we would realistically have in common, how many endeavors we would share interest in.

BB, as you continue to elevate yourself, you're going to find fewer and fewer people who are "within reach". They may look like they resent YOU for this...the truth is that they resent themselves for not being able to reach you.

They want to jump to the rung of the ladder that you are on...realistically, they can only get to the next rung, one at a time.

You don't have an obligation to reach these people, so don't let them drag you down. But don't hate on them. Remember, somewhere deep inside of them, though they've forgotten, they still have a drive to "grow" as human beings. They're not malicious...just ignorant. Maybe one day you'll be able to reconnect with them.

For now, I just wouldn't worry about it. Brush them haters off.
 

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You're black right? And you own business, and have money, more and more. Maybe you can't relate to anyone cuz you moving into upper class white neighborhoods? I know if my life were to slide and I had to move into geto I'd feel out of place.
 

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Drdeee said:
You're black right? And you own business, and have money, more and more. Maybe you can't relate to anyone cuz you moving into upper class white neighborhoods? I know if my life were to slide and I had to move into geto I'd feel out of place.

LOL. I knew that was coming.

BB. To anwser your question. No not really. I think I'm a little too soft to be honest. I respect people for what ever level they are at. I don't plan to join them unless they are on levels beyond mine. I feel slightly sad for those stuck in the lower levels. But I've learned the hard way, you can try to teach a pig to read, but it just wastes your time and annoys the pig. On the other hand, I'm now surrounded by a few other men who have run their own businesses for 10 years or more, so I am learning more and more from them every day. So maybe you need to seek the company of older and wiser men who have been where you are. Find a mentor or something like that.

As for people being put off by how you act. Well that boils down to one of two things. Their problem or your problem. If they are jealous, insecure, racist, sexist. Then its their problem. If you are projecting your insecurities, or walking around with a chip for no reason, its your problem. Only you can decide which one it is.
 
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Julius_Seizeher said:
Why shouldn't he have the audacity to declare himself right and another wrong?
Nothing wrong, unless you do it all the time, which will send you in the group of people no one likes to be around.

But this is off topic.
My question had another purpose.
 

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Warrior74 said:
LOL. I knew that was coming.

BB. To anwser your question. No not really. I think I'm a little too soft to be honest. I respect people for what ever level they are at. I don't plan to join them unless they are on levels beyond mine. I feel slightly sad for those stuck in the lower levels. But I've learned the hard way, you can try to teach a pig to read, but it just wastes your time and annoys the pig. On the other hand, I'm now surrounded by a few other men who have run their own businesses for 10 years or more, so I am learning more and more from them every day. So maybe you need to seek the company of older and wiser men who have been where you are. Find a mentor or something like that.

As for people being put off by how you act. Well that boils down to one of two things. Their problem or your problem. If they are jealous, insecure, racist, sexist. Then its their problem. If you are projecting your insecurities, or walking around with a chip for no reason, its your problem. Only you can decide which one it is.
Honestly I never considered the question. I did not grow up poor. I grew up in an upper middle class (i.e white) neighborhood in the best part of town. Never something I ever considered because I never "moved" to the good part of town

Actually my neighborhoods are pretty cool. They invite me to BBQ's and stuff. just regular neighboors. One has a 17 year old daughter, boy if my fiancee and I break up that's as good as done lol. I mean, I grew up having 2 best friends, I was the side kick in the three of us, utnil I started making something of myself and started pulling women, then one of them starts going behind my back to sex my ex's and the other one is hitting on my then GF. Tossed them. Then with the rest you fall into one of certain catgories, 1. guys that don't want you around because their girl is attracted to you or just worried that you would take their girl even if you dont' have any attention to, 2. guys that generally just resent the fact that you don't suck with the opposite sex, then you fall in to just the regular life catogory, for instance, say we all go out for drinks and shoot pool. You know what.. i will give you an example, when I was 22, i took my then 2 best friends out to a piano bar, something we did virtually every wednesday this was nothing new. Jello shots on me all night, whatever you want, just get it, i got the tab. As one of them gets drunk, he says "nigga you think you sweet don't you **** you and you jello shots". it was funny at the time becuase were were all hammered but when I sobered up i realized what had happened. Say we go out and I just pay my way.. I'm ****ed again "this stingy ass nigga, know he can pay for my drinks". Honestly when dealing with male friends i could care less either way, if you are broke and want me to get the tab say so i will get it, no biggie. if you want to pay for your own **** tell me, no biggie. but
regardless of what you do in reality you are ****ed, because the issue in reality isn't rather you are paying the tab or not, it's just jealousy in general. Then becuase I don't sit around and do nothing all day "dude you think you too busy to come around no more". My financee's friend has a bF who just is generally butthurt about life. Everytime he comes over, which is maybe 2 or 3 times a month when when we are having drinks, he's the guy that you cant' say anything or do anything without him trying to one up you or make a scene. man i'm just a regular guy. I like to drink, I like to watch football, I like to shoot pool and I like to bowl just like everyone other american male. But in moderation. It's not my life, but when I do kick back, would be nice to have someone on the same wavelength as me, who doesnt' get butthurt when I don't want to do something 2-3 nights a week and doesn't make such a stink about everything

I am an extremely drama free person, I don't do drama. It's not so much that I don't get along with people, but the second I have to treat a friend like a GF I'm out.
 
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